ADR & Hotel Cancellation

[parkbr]

We are doing 3-way split stay and have learned that I have to do 3 early mornings to do the ADRs. I've never done split stays before, so this is news to me.
The thing is, when we have decided to do the 3-way split stay, (from 4-way split), we didn't cancel that 4th one and just left it there in case hotel inventory changes and we change our dates.
So we have a split stay from May 17 - 20, May 20 - 25 and May 25 - May 29. And then another one from May 21 - May 29 (this is the one we will be most likely to cancel) - or possibly move this one to May 17 to 25 and cancel the first two.
I wonder if I select my ADR now and cancel May 21 - 29 hotel sometime later, would my ADR also cancel?
I read somewhere if I cancel the hotel then ADR also cancels? Or maybe I have to wait until ADR ressies are less than 60 days?
Please help! as I dont want to screw up anything on ADR.

 

[kranzaldua]

Your hotel reservation is tied to when your dining window opens up but once those reservations are made, it will not be tied or affect your dining reservation in any way---even if you cancel the hotel. I'm pretty sure about this. You are just held to the dining reservation cancellation policy of 24/48 hours no show fee.

 

[Her Dotness]

No, ADRs and room reservations are two entirely separate things other than for the 60+10 booking advantage guests in Disney resorts get. (At 60 days out from arrival date, you can make ADRs for the first 10 days of your stay--FYI anyone reading this who doesn't know what that means.)

That they are separate often catches people needing to cancel their trip; they think canceling their resort reservation gets everything. It doesn't, and they get charged restaurant no-show fees at $10 per person.

Anybody off-property can make ADRs for a Disney lunch, dinner, whatever with no hotel stay at all--totally different system.

Leave any ADRs you really want. They'll still be there if needed. If you cancel any of those date groups entirely, don't forget that you must either modify the ADRs in them, moving as you are able to your new stay dates, or cancel them.

 

[iwannabdduck]

We had an onsite trip planned for early February which we ended up cancelling after making all sorts of ADRs. Once I cancelled resort and ticket package, our ADRs (and park reservations too for that matter) still showed in MDE. I simply hit the cancel button in MDE on all of those things and they disappeared like magic. I also received confirming emails from Disney notifying me of the dining reservation cancellations, just as I got those kind of emails when the reservations were originally made at the 60 day mark.

 

[parkbr]

Your hotel reservation is tied to when your dining window opens up but once those reservations are made, it will not be tied or affect your dining reservation in any way---even if you cancel the hotel. I'm pretty sure about this. You are just held to the dining reservation cancellation policy of 24/48 hours no show fee.

Thank you.
I didn't know there is 48 hour no show fee. Which ones are those?
And CRT, it's still 24 hours, right?

 

[parkbr]

No, ADRs and room reservations are two entirely separate things other than for the 60+10 booking advantage guests in Disney resorts get. (At 60 days out from arrival date, you can make ADRs for the first 10 days of your stay--FYI anyone reading this who doesn't know what that means.)

That they are separate often catches people needing to cancel their trip; they think canceling their resort reservation gets everything. It doesn't, and they get charged restaurant no-show fees at $10 per person.

Anybody off-property can make ADRs for a Disney lunch, dinner, whatever with no hotel stay at all--totally different system.

Leave any ADRs you really want. They'll still be there if needed. If you cancel any of those date groups entirely, don't forget that you must either modify the ADRs in them, moving as you are able to your new stay dates, or cancel them.

What you're saying is so even if my stay is 13 days, we can only do +10 days, right?
(It's been a long time since we did more than 10 days at Disney!)

We are definitely coming, it's just have not yet finalized which hotel to stay -> hoping for some changes.
So in this case, we'll be able to keep all ADRs right?

 

[parkbr]

We had an onsite trip planned for early February which we ended up cancelling after making all sorts of ADRs. Once I cancelled resort and ticket package, our ADRs (and park reservations too for that matter) still showed in MDE. I simply hit the cancel button in MDE on all of those things and they disappeared like magic. I also received confirming emails from Disney notifying me of the dining reservation cancellations, just as I got those kind of emails when the reservations were originally made at the 60 day mark.

Thank you!
When did you cancel your trip? Less than 60days?

 

[kranzaldua]

Thank you.
I didn't know there is 48 hour no show fee. Which ones are those?
And CRT, it's still 24 hours, right?

Honestly- maybe there's aren't 48 hour ones anymore. I haven't read the fine print lately. Haha. Used to be a lot of the signature DDP restaurants and packaged meals had a 48 window compared to a 24. Now that dining plan isn't a thing and there's not many package things, maybe they are all 24? No idea- but I bet you could find it on AllEars or some other Disney info site/blog.

 

[Jacq7414]

They won’t cancel. You have to physically cancel each adr yourself

 

[Her Dotness]

What you're saying is so even if my stay is 13 days, we can only do +10 days, right?
(It's been a long time since we did more than 10 days at Disney!)

At 60 days out from your arrival date, you can make ADRs for just the first 10 days.

At 60 days out from the 11th day, then you can make ADRs for it. The next day, you make them for your 12th day, etc.

So in this case, we'll be able to keep all ADRs right?

Don't change any ADRs until you've switched stay dates as you wish.

Your ADRs won't go anywhere until you modify or cancel them. Leave them alone until you change dates, if you do. You really don't want to get good times for the super-popular ones, cancel them and try to get them again.

Do you know why it is important to modify rather than cancel if you only need to switch dates?

 

[parkbr]

At 60 days out from your arrival date, you can make ADRs for just the first 10 days.

At 60 days out from the 11th day, then you can make ADRs for it. The next day, you make them for your 12th day, etc.



Don't change any ADRs until you've switched stay dates as you wish.

Your ADRs won't go anywhere until you modify or cancel them. Leave them alone until you change dates, if you do. You really don't want to get good times for the super-popular ones, cancel them and try to get them again.

Do you know why it is important to modify rather than cancel if you only need to switch dates?

Thank you.

We are sure about our dates - just not sure about which hotels yet. (Have them booked)

Sorry. No. I dont know why it is important to modify rather than cancel ADR. Could you please let me know?

 

[parkbr]

They won’t cancel. You have to physically cancel each adr yourself

Thank you!

 

[parkbr]

Honestly- maybe there's aren't 48 hour ones anymore. I haven't read the fine print lately. Haha. Used to be a lot of the signature DDP restaurants and packaged meals had a 48 window compared to a 24. Now that dining plan isn't a thing and there's not many package things, maybe they are all 24? No idea- but I bet you could find it on AllEars or some other Disney info site/blog.

Got it! Thank you.

 

[TheOneWithTheTriplets]

At 60 days out from your arrival date, you can make ADRs for just the first 10 days.

At 60 days out from the 11th day, then you can make ADRs for it. The next day, you make them for your 12th day, etc.

Split stays are treated as separate windows. Your info would only be accurate if there were a reservation that overlapped the full dates of the trip.

Given @parkbr 's current bookings, there's a window that opens for May 17-20, another that opens for May 20-25, a third that opens 21-29 (although some of that was already open on the prior reservation), and a 4th that is irrelevant because all of the days are already captured in the 21-29 window.

 

[Her Dotness]

Thank you.

We are sure about our dates - just not sure about which hotels yet. (Have them booked)

Okay, then I misunderstood. Thought you meant you might drop some dates and keep others.

Sorry. No. I dont know why it is important to modify rather than cancel ADR. Could you please let me know?

A CM explained to us once never to cancel an ADR if you simply want to make changes like date, time of day, etc. Cancel only if you don't need that ADR at all, such as realizing you booked lunch but are leaving WDW before that time.

Modifying keeps your position in the ADR system, giving you a better chance of getting what you want than people entering to start booking. You're a little higher in rank, he called it, and have more flexibilty to get a different restaurant, date, or time than somebody who just signed in.

If you cancel the ADR, you've left the system and then would come back in essentially starting all over, having lost any advantage.

 

[Her Dotness]

Split stays are treated as separate windows. Your info would only be accurate if there were a reservation that overlapped the full dates of the trip.

Given @parkbr 's current bookings, there's a window that opens for May 17-20, another that opens for May 20-25, a third that opens 21-29 (although some of that was already open on the prior reservation), and a 4th that is irrelevant because all of the days are already captured in the 21-29 window.

You're right. Mega-DUH! Split stays are really separate stays, so the 60+10 as I was thinking of it doesn't affect ADR bookings as long as each is less than 10 nights.

I was obviously thinking of a single resort stay lasting longer than 10 nights.

Thanks for the correction.