ABC likely to get fined

[MScott1851]

What she said was "a whole lotta witches jumping ship" as opposed to "a whole lotta *****es talking ****" which are the real words to the song.

Why would they get fined for that? Juicy J and Paul re-wrote the song specifically for the Oscars so it would be performable.

It would have been better if Terrance Howard could have performed it...it would have been more intelligible, anyway.

 

[lindalinda]

crap crap crap crap......see that isnt a censorable offense...

 

[LindsayDunn228]

This song winning is not nearly the travesty as the Brokeback Mountain music winning over John Williams' two scores.

Amen!!!!!!!!! The score to "Munich" absolutely rocked and I was hoping it would win

 

[LindsayDunn228]

Someone help me out here... what the heck are you talking about? Which song(s) are you referring to???

 

[powellrj]

Dolly Parton was robbed!

I agree!!!

 

[Disneymaddness]

Dolly Parton was robbed!

Especially by the doctor who did her face! I thought she looked spooky!

 

[Mickey Fliers]

What she said was "a whole lotta witches jumping ship" as opposed to "a whole lotta *****es talking ****" which are the real words to the song.

Why would they get fined for that? Juicy J and Paul re-wrote the song specifically for the Oscars so it would be performable.

It would have been better if Terrance Howard could have performed it...it would have been more intelligible, anyway.

At first I thought they were using the expletives as well, but I as I re-watched on DVR, I agree with MScott1851. They are defiantely singing, "witches jumping ship".

 

[beachblanket]

I still can't believe the song won. I don't necessarily dislike rap or hip-hop, but I just don't think that was a GOOD song.

Yes, Hollywood is just so in touch with quality. As far as the Academy is concerned, this "classic" belongs in the same club as "Over The Rainbow" (winner in 1939), "Born Free" (winner in 1966) and "When You Wish Upon A Star" (winner in 1940). Yes, years from now, everyone will still be humming "It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp."

And I'm sure the parents of young children loved the performance, full of missing sound (read: expletives) and supported by dancers dressed as hookers and pimps. Yep, family entertainment at its best.....

 

[Zippa D Doodah]

I did not see the performance of "It's Hard Out Here..." last night. I don't exactly know why, but I like this song!

Funny thing is, I don't listen to any hip hop at all. Yet when I saw Hustle and Flow this song just stuck with me. DW and I find ourselves quoting it to each other often, as kind of a way to shrug off the tension when life gets challenging. Kinda crazy for rural/suburban Anglos like us

I guess I'm glad that song won the award, but I'm sure the version that made it to TV was not even close to the real song. As for the other nominees, I haven't seen TransAmerica yet (but really want to cuz I love Felicity Huffman). Even though I saw Crash I can't remember teh song that was nominated.

Bottom line: "It's Hard out Here..." was an iintegral part of the story line of a fine movie. It had a catchy tune. I have no problem with it winning the Oscar

 

[Beth76]

This isn't the first hip-hop song to win an Oscar. Eminem won for "Lose Yourself" a few years ago. Life isn't all about rainbows and singing crickets. And I don't believe John Williams should win simply because he's John Williams.

 

[buddy&wooz]

I didn't think there was much of a competition with the music awards. I do like the Brokeback Mountain song- haven't seen the movie yet so I don't know how well it works as a score, though.

I didn't really like any of the best song nominees- I do like a lot of hip hop- that song was just too all over the place, though. Again, haven't seen the movie yet, though (I really need to see more movies!)

 

[DVCLiz]

Yes, Hollywood is just so in touch with quality. As far as the Academy is concerned, this "classic" belongs in the same club as "Over The Rainbow" (winner in 1939), "Born Free" (winner in 1966) and "When You Wish Upon A Star" (winner in 1940). Yes, years from now, everyone will still be humming "It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp."

And I'm sure the parents of young children loved the performance, full of missing sound (read: expletives) and supported by dancers dressed as hookers and pimps. Yep, family entertainment at its best.....

Respectfully, it's not about whether a song is "family friendly." Academy Awards aren't voted on according to "family values," they are awarded based on the opinions of the members of the academy. If we're going to disallow nominations based on how "family friendly" they are, the show would be over in about ten minutes.

And any parents of young children who aren't monitoring what their children see are simply using poor judgement. The Academy Awards aren't a "family" telelvision event, and never have been.

 

[Planogirl]

It would be nice if more mainstream songs won though. After all not everyone is going to appreciate the finer nuances of IT'S HARD OUT HERE FOR A PIMP.

I remember with fondness when a song from a Disney movie won year after year. The winner certainly doesn't have to be a Disney song for me to like it but something pretty would be nice.

 

[buddy&wooz]

I didn't like the song, but then I didn't like any of the songs. I couldn't care less about the lyrics- but obviously they fit well with the film, and that's the point. With such a lack of good music to choose from, I think that's what the voters may have ended up thinking about- how well the music worked with the film.

My young child was in bed, by the way- where young children should be that late on a school night, not watching the Oscars.

...and the RIAA wonders why music sales are down...)

I seriously doubt naughty lyrics have anything to do with sales being down.

 

[cardaway]

It started at 5:00 here on the West Coast, but it WAS EDITED for televison.

It really stinks when things are edited down and people still whine about it not being family friendly.

If anything the edited rap sing ended up being a joke. Let them air it as is, or don't nominate things that TV will not let you air.

The Oscars should be handled the way different movies have been in the past. Warnings that things will air without edits, and if you can't handle that, change the channel.

 

[beachblanket]

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My young child was in bed, by the way- where young children should be that late on a school night, not watching the Oscars.

I seriously doubt naughty lyrics have anything to do with sales being down.

Geography is relative here. What is late in the East is not in my neck of the woods. And I don't agree with the generalization that the Academy Awards were "never" family entertainment, some of us are old enough to remember when they were.

As for why music sales are down, my point wasn't about vulgarity. It was about quality.

Overall music sales fell 2 percent in 2005, bringing the total drop in sales to 20 percent since 1999. Is it just me, or is losing a fifth of your business kind of symptomatic of a big, BIG problem? And no, the "its all due to piracy" strawman isn't the main reason.

Demographers have already correlated that a big factor in the long term decline in CD sales was the fact that by 1999 Boomers and Gen-X'ers had finally finished replacing their vinyl/tapes (of The White Album, Dark Side, Zep IV etc) with CD’s. Add to that the fact people are increasingly putting much of their discretionary spending into substitute entertainment (video games and DVDs). And add to that the fact that the last successful new popular music genre to emerge was rap/hip/hop...in the early to mid 1990s.

So, add all this up, and the "music biz" is dwindling because the record companies have worn out the re-release market, are encountering new competitors and are stuck in a rut, putting out the same kind of crap they were a decade ago!

And last night's "performance" of the Best Song winner is exhibit A of that last problem!

 

[buddy&wooz]

I also heard that Jon Stewart was awful. Is this correct?

I thought he did a great job. It's not easy to be funny in that room!

 

[buddy&wooz]

Geography is relative here. What is late in the East is not in my neck of the woods.

I was under the impression the Oscars didn't air live on the West Coast. That song didn't air until after 10pm here. Sorry if it was actually aired earlier in the evening for you. But still, it was edited.

As for why music sales are down, my point wasn't about vulgarity. It was about quality.

Overall music sales fell 2 percent in 2005, bringing the total drop in sales to 20 percent since 1999. Is it just me, or is losing a fifth of your business kind of symptomatic of a big, BIG problem? And no, the "its all due to piracy" strawman isn't the main reason.

I think piracy has a lot to do with it, but only because the RIAA was much too late to the party. They should have seen that downloads were the future much earlier- I haven't bought many CDs in 2 or 3 years (one or two that were special editions from favored artists), and I used to buy them at least once a month- now I just download individual songs from iTunes, spending much less money overall. Before iTunes, I grabbed them off Kazaa or Napster .

Demographers have already correlated that a big factor in the long term decline in CD sales was the fact that by 1999 Boomers and Gen-X'ers had finally finished replacing their vinyl/tapes (of The White Album, Dark Side, Zep IV etc) with CD’s. Add to that the fact people are increasingly putting much of their discretionary spending into substitute entertainment (video games and DVDs). And add to that the fact there has been no major emergence of a new, substantive music genre since rap/hip/hop emerged in the mid 1990s. And all this up, and the "music biz" is dwindling because the record companies have worn out the re-release market, are encountering new competitors and are stuck in a rut, putting out the same kind of crap they were a decade ago!

And last night's "performance" of the Best Song winner is exhibit A of that last problem!

I don't think that one song is any more indicative of the problems in the industry than any of the other songs- all equally bad IMO. The music industry needs to reinvent itself- the glory days of the 70's and 80's aren't coming back. I really think it's more to do with marketing than quality.

 

[Free4Life11]

Like takin from a h* don't know no better, I know that ain't right

Well I'm glad to see that he at least knows its wrong to take from a h* that "don't know no better."



What's that phrase they say...."you can't make this stuff up!"

 

[DVCLiz]

And I don't agree with the generalization that the Academy Awards were "never" family entertainment, some of us are old enough to remember when they were.

Well, I'm 48 and I was never allowed to watch the Oscars until I was in my teens- it was a "grownup show" at our house!!! You may have had a different experience, though. I'd bet that many of these types of shows have come to be thought of as family events, including things like the Miss America show, but they really aren't and never have been marketed at the whole family, even if families have chosen to see them as such.