A terrorism question for you.

[Aisling]

so you do not believe in forgiveness / redemption

I absolutely do. I also believe in being wise and to not trust terrorist bombers so easily. His redemption, or lack thereof, is between him and God. I should sit down for tea with Bin Laden if he ever claimed he's sorry.

 

[Amlee]

so you do not believe in forgiveness / redemption

So your saying that Hitler and Hussein can be forgiven or redeemed?

That's the whole point of this thread. How can one be forgiven and the other's not? How can one's pass be jusified and the others not. I don't get the double standards.

 

[DawnCt1]

So, you have no problems with the US Government breaking the law? Or only laws you do not agree with, or about people you do not agree with?

Of course I have a problem with it. What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? If the FBI followed the law, Bill Ayers would have been in jail. Instead, he is seen as an "upstanding college professor" teaching his special brand of radicalism.

 

[Aisling]

So your saying that Hitler and Hussein can be forgiven or redeemed?

That's the whole point of this thread. How can one be forgiven and the other's not? How can one's pass be jusified and the others not. I don't get the double standards.

I get it.

Obama shouldn't be condemned for being friends with an anti-american bomber, but McCain should for being friends with a financial crook.

That's why this whole election thing is nothing but a joke. Both Obama and McCain supporters are nothing but jokes, as they support their guy to the death, no matter what he's done.

 

[Amlee]

I get it.

Obama shouldn't be condemned for being friends with an anti-american bomber, but McCain should for being friends with a financial crook.

That's why this whole election thing is nothing but a joke. Both Obama and McCain supporters are nothing but jokes, as they support their guy to the death, no matter what he's done.

I am undecided on my vote. I've never been a party person, and most likely never will. I have been totally turned off by both parties and their mud slanging. Both men have things I like about them, both have things I don't like about them.

I wish I could take my favorite stuff from Obama and my favorite stuff from McCain and put it in one person.

Another thing that gets me, is the Dem's complain about Bush. But haven't the they been in charged of congress for some years now? Which should have given them the power to make some changes for some time now?

 

[Anewman]

Another thing that gets me, is the Dem's complain about Bush. But haven't the they been in charged of congress for some years now? Which should have given them the power to make some changes for some time now?

Dems have had semi-control of congress for less than two years...

Know how long the Republicans were in control prior to that?

 

[Aisling]

Another thing that gets me, is the Dem's complain about Bush. But haven't the they been in charged of congress for some years now? Which should have given them the power to make some changes for some time now?

Many people have forgotten, or didn't even know, that the Congress is run by the Democrats. I'm no Bush fan, but it's ignorant the way he gets blamed for everything. Check out what your Democrat representatives in Washington have been voting for for the last years and see who's responsible for the sory state this country's in.

 

[Aisling]

Dems have had semi-control of congress for less than two years...

Semi-control? Nancy Pelosi would sure have a different opinion!

 

[Amlee]

Dems have had semi-control of congress for less than two years...

Know how long the Republicans were in control prior to that?

Hmmm, everything I read said that the Democrats took CONTROL of Congress, in Jan 2007.

 

[Anewman]

Semi-control? Nancy Pelosi would sure have a different opinion!

She is not the Speaker of CONGRESS, she is Speaker of the House.

How many democrats in the Senate?
How many republicans?

Do the math.

 

[Tigger Woods]

If i was 45 and the plotting happened when I was 8.... and the "terrorist" was now a professor and active member of my community...
yes!

Barack Obama was much older than 8 when William Ayers was photographed stepping on a US flag in 2001, for an article in which Ayers said he had “No Regrets” for his violent actions in the Weather Underground.

In fact, at the same time Ayers was in a Chicago alley desecrating the flag, he and Barack Obama were serving on the board of the Woods Fund together.

Deborah Harrington, president of the Woods Fund, a philanthropic organization in Chicago, said Obama was a director from 1994 through 2001. That overlaps Ayers’ time as a director by three years. It also means Obama served with Ayers for the final months of 2001, after Ayers made his comments to the New York Times.

 

[Anewman]

Hmmm, everything I read said that the Democrats took CONTROL of Congress, in Jan 2007.

Yes, that would be less than two years.

 

[CowboyCO]

mccain on the other hand vacationed many times with keating....a much closer association...if you believe in guilt by association .....

And McCain also testified to put Keating in jail.

 

[Aisling]

The Democrats control both the House AND the Senate.
Will someone correct my math please.

Forgot to add, yes I know that Pelosi is speaker of the House. I was simply stating that she has referred many times to the democrat run CONGRESS. I'll try to find some youtubes for you.

 

[Amlee]

Barack Obama was much older than 8 when William Ayers was photographed stepping on a US flag in 2001, for an article in which Ayers said he had “No Regrets” for his violent actions in the Weather Underground.

In fact, at the same time Ayers was in a Chicago alley desecrating the flag, he and Barack Obama were serving on the board of the Woods Fund together.

Deborah Harrington, president of the Woods Fund, a philanthropic organization in Chicago, said Obama was a director from 1994 through 2001. That overlaps Ayers’ time as a director by three years. It also means Obama served with Ayers for the final months of 2001, after Ayers made his comments to the New York Times.

Just because you work or are associated with someone through work, doesn't mean you support them in their beliefs. Now if Obama, had been with Ayers when he was desecrating the flag. Or came out and said, he believed as Ayer, then your point would be valid. But I have yet to see any of that.

 

[Amlee]

Yes, that would be less than two years.

Yeah, your math wasn't what I was talking about. It was the semi part. As everything I saw said CONTROL.

 

[Anewman]

Just because you work or are associated with someone through work, doesn't mean you support them in their beliefs. Now if Obama, had been with Ayers when he was desecrating the flag. Or came out and said, he believed as Ayer, then your point would be valid. But I have yet to see any of that.

If any Vietnam vets ever went on to commit serious crimes we can say that McCain is friends with Felons. Hey they served together

 

[CowboyCO]

Dems have had semi-control of congress for less than two years...

Know how long the Republicans were in control prior to that?

What is semi-control? Is that like semi-leadership? Or semi-pregnant?


When dems took control of Congress in January, 2007, the Dow Jones was at 12,460. Today it closed at 9955, down 20% since Dems took "semi-control".

Dems promised lower gas prices in their speeches when they took "semi-control" of Congress:

Gas was $2.10 a gallon in January 2007. Look at your local gas pump for an update on their progress...

They also pushed hard for a $700 Billion dollar bailout of Wall Street- Which has dropped nearly 1000 point since they approved it... Yeah -- I want more of this... I think we all need a

 

[Anewman]

Yeah, your math wasn't what I was talking about. It was the semi part. As everything I saw said CONTROL.

Well there are 49 registered democrats, 49 registered republicans and 2 independents that clearly lean towards the democratic side. That is why I referred to it as semi-control, but Joe L(indy) did consider caucusing with the Republicans prior to this swearing in... which would have given republicans SEMI-control instead.

 

[Anewman]

What is semi-control? Is that like semi-leadership? Or semi-pregnant?


When dems took control of Congress in January, 2007, the Dow Jones was at 12,460. Today it closed at 9955 since Dems took "semi-control".

Dems promised lower gas prices in their speeches when they took "semi-control" of Congress:

They also pushed hard for a $700 Billion dollar bailout of Wall Street- Which has dropped nearly 1000 point since they approved it... Yeah -- I want more of this... I think we all need a

And your republican president did not promise lower gas prices.
And your republican President did not PUSH for the bailout.
And your republican President did not promise that his Tax rebates would BOOST our already strong economy.

Not not at all.