A Tale of Two Dads: 1 on a frugal budget and 1 on the DDP**COMPLETE 12/18/10**

So bright and early Sunday morning we start packing up from our offsite condo and trudge down from the third floor with all of our stuff. Ate breakfast in the condo.

After a couple of false starts, we end up at Joe’s Crab Shack for lunch. While the food wasn’t all that great, the kids enjoyed sitting outside and entertaining themselves on the playground while we waited for lunch.



Total OOP Cost: $46.17

Afternoon:


We checked into our hotel at Animal Kingdom Lodge – Kidani Village. We bought into Disney Vacation Club a year ago and this was our first time to stay on our own points (we had rented or traded into Disney with our time share before). We were excited! And the kids loved the animals. We were on the 5th floor and could see 4 or 5 different animals within the first 10 minutes. Made microwave popcorn and drank bottled water as a snack.

Total OOP Costs for first three days (not including food and drink items brought from Houston – so not completely fair and we had a free dinner with friends).

Wednesday: $78
Thursday: $59 (but free dinner with friends)
Friday: $74.50
Saturday: $61.75
Sunday (half day): $46.17
Grand Total: $319
Average total OOP per day (4 days): $80
Average per person (didn’t count the 2 year old) that’s about $20 a day ($80/4 = $20)



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Now that we’re onsite, frugal dad become Disney Dining Plan Dad! (but frugal dad never really goes away – and all you frugal people know that!).

Dinner:

We had reservations at Boma for 7:15. We got there about 7 and they seated us in less than a minute. Great news. We sit down and the waiter takes our drink orders. The waiter outlines where things are located and we head to the lines. My kids go to one side and I go to the other. 30 seconds later, we meet at the kids meal station and both kids are filling up on meatballs, noodles, and are eyeing the mac-and-cheese. The horrors! Don’t they realize that we’re experiencing the tastes of Africa? Don’t they realize that this is a $35 dinner? They’re loading up on $4.99 kids meal options!! I guide them to a few more unique food choices and we head back to the table.

At the table, everyone’s unhappy with their food. Wife reminds me that it might have been a good idea to share the plan to try out unique foods from Africa BEFORE we get to the food line. I think she has a good point. A very good point! I explain to the kids some of what we were trying to do (get small tastes of foods that we would never get in Houston). I also explain that they don’t have to eat everything on their plate – but they do have to get a lot of different things—with very small portions – and tell the rest of us about what they like and what’s “not they’re favorite” (that’s the phrase they’re allowed to use at home when they don’t like something).

We go up to the food lines again and things go MUCH better. I ask my son to pick out a few things from each station to try. We all head back with our second plates and try out a variety of items.

Overall, the kids weren’t too wild about the exotic options. But since my goal was for them to try things, I wasn’t too concerned. Son found that he really liked the pork. So he loaded up. And as long as it wasn’t the standard meatballs or mystery chicken, I was fine with that. Daughter really liked the dessert bar. My wife and I found a lot of things we liked – so it was definitely enjoyable.

Unfortunately, because of the poor planning from dad and the need for finding a new approach to menu selections before a complete family meltdown, no pictures. : (

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My son really liked the pork at the meat station.

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Soups were a family favorite. My wife and I really liked the Curried Coconut Seafood Stew.

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And the desserts were awesome. Here are the caramel cheesecakes that my daughter and wife loved.

Overall, we were very satisfied with Boma's. It was a good value and we enjoyed the experience a great deal. And the service was one of our better experiences: our waiter was attentive and kept picking up the plates.

Total Disney Table Service Credits Used: 4
Cost w/o DDP: $140 + tip ($35 pp)
Total OOP: $26 for a tip.
 
So bright and early Sunday morning we start packing up from our offsite condo and trudge down from the third floor with all of our stuff. Ate breakfast in the condo.

After a couple of false starts, we end up at Joe’s Crab Shack for lunch. While the food wasn’t all that great, the kids enjoyed sitting outside and entertaining themselves on the playground while we waited for lunch.



Total OOP Cost: $46.17

Afternoon:


We checked into our hotel at Animal Kingdom Lodge – Kidani Village. We bought into Disney Vacation Club a year ago and this was our first time to stay on our own points (we had rented or traded into Disney with our time share before). We were excited! And the kids loved the animals. We were on the 5th floor and could see 4 or 5 different animals within the first 10 minutes. Made microwave popcorn and drank bottled water as a snack.

Total OOP Costs for first three days (not including food and drink items brought from Houston – so not completely fair and we had a free dinner with friends).

Wednesday: $78
Thursday: $59 (but free dinner with friends)
Friday: $74.50
Saturday: $61.75
Sunday (half day): $46.17
Grand Total: $319
Average total OOP per day (4 days): $80
Average per person (didn’t count the 2 year old) that’s about $20 a day ($80/4 = $20)



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Now that we’re onsite, frugal dad become Disney Dining Plan Dad! (but frugal dad never really goes away – and all you frugal people know that!).

Dinner:

We had reservations at Boma for 7:15. We got there about 7 and they seated us in less than a minute. Great news. We sit down and the waiter takes our drink orders. The waiter outlines where things are located and we head to the lines. My kids go to one side and I go to the other. 30 seconds later, we meet at the kids meal station and both kids are filling up on meatballs, noodles, and are eyeing the mac-and-cheese. The horrors! Don’t they realize that we’re experiencing the tastes of Africa? Don’t they realize that this is a $35 dinner? They’re loading up on $4.99 kids meal options!! I guide them to a few more unique food choices and we head back to the table.

At the table, everyone’s unhappy with their food. Wife reminds me that it might have been a good idea to share the plan to try out unique foods from Africa BEFORE we get to the food line. I think she has a good point. A very good point! I explain to the kids some of what we were trying to do (get small tastes of foods that we would never get in Houston). I also explain that they don’t have to eat everything on their plate – but they do have to get a lot of different things—with very small portions – and tell the rest of us about what they like and what’s “not they’re favorite” (that’s the phrase they’re allowed to use at home when they don’t like something).

We go up to the food lines again and things go MUCH better. I ask my son to pick out a few things from each station to try. We all head back with our second plates and try out a variety of items.

Overall, the kids weren’t too wild about the exotic options. But since my goal was for them to try things, I wasn’t too concerned. Son found that he really liked the pork. So he loaded up. And as long as it wasn’t the standard meatballs or mystery chicken, I was fine with that. Daughter really liked the dessert bar. My wife and I found a lot of things we liked – so it was definitely enjoyable.

Unfortunately, because of the poor planning from dad and the need for finding a new approach to menu selections before a complete family meltdown, no pictures. : (

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My son really liked the pork at the meat station.

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Soups were a family favorite. My wife and I really liked the Curried Coconut Seafood Stew.

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And the desserts were awesome. Here are the caramel cheesecakes that my daughter and wife loved.

Overall, we were very satisfied with Boma's. It was a good value and we enjoyed the experience a great deal. And the service was one of our better experiences: our waiter was attentive and kept picking up the plates.

Total Disney Table Service Credits Used: 4
Cost w/o DDP: $140 + tip ($35 pp)
Total OOP: $26 for a tip.
 
Love to hear more about your food adventures.

thank you very much!

Loving your report!! I'm really interested in the final result since we are not getting the DDP and will be paying OOP for the very first time on our upcoming trip.

Sorry it's taking awhile to post everything. But I'll get there : )

Great trip report so far!:cheer2:

Thanks for the feedback. My first effort -- so it's taking longer than I expected!
 
We'll see if there's REALLY a difference in frugal dad and DDP dad. I'm guessing not....;):laughing:

Joining in to read until "The End.":banana:
 

You are 100% correct when you say frugal dad never really goes away! DH is the exact same way. Looking forward to the rest of your report. popcorn::
 
We'll see if there's REALLY a difference in frugal dad and DDP dad. I'm guessing not....;):laughing:

Joining in to read until "The End.":banana:

You're right! Frugal dad never really goes away -- he's always looking to ensure he's getting his money's worth : ) But at least he gets to eat like he wouldn't normally eat -- which was a major advantage!

wonderful start...:thumbsup2

Thank you...and thanks for your patience!

You are 100% correct when you say frugal dad never really goes away! DH is the exact same way. Looking forward to the rest of your report. popcorn::

If DH is similar, you do understand!

Love your title! I can't wait to read more.

Thank you! Am posting the next installment in a few minutes (he types hopefully).
 
We slept in for awhile and ate a leisurely breakfast in the room while watching animals.

OOP: $0

Later in the morning we headed to Downtown Disney and did some shopping. I checked out both the Earl of Sandwich as well as Wolfgang Puck Express. While both looked really good, Wolfgang Puck edged out sandwiches.

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The meal was simply great. We all loved our food choices. My oldest daughter wanted soup – but frugal dad kicked in and said: use an entire quick service meal on soup? Are you crazy? Then we found out that our 2 year old could eat the older daughter’s pizza – and the great waitress pointed out that we could get soup as a snack. Score! We ended up ordering pizza, spaghetti & meatballs, turkey cobb salad, and chicken alfredo. For dessert we picked a crème brulee, 2 cheesecakes, and frozen yogurt. It was all outstanding. Best meal we’ve had so far. And a quick serve no less.

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Turkey Cobb Salad. Excellent!

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Squash soup.

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The menu was great. Simple – but lots of choices that we were interested in trying.

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Clockwise from left: alfredo, spaghetti, pizza, soup, turkey cob salad, and meatballs (part of the spaghetti – but next to my salad for some reason!

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Crème brulee and cheesecake

Typically I don’t tip at a quick service type restaurant, but the service was so great – they were so attentive – that I tipped them $15 just because they were so awesome.

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DDP: 4 Quick Service Meals + 1 snack – cost savings : $95
OOP: $15

Dinner will follow in a separate post...
 
Joining in. I am loving your reviews. We did a split stay last trip with part dining plan, part OOP. DH was in charge of the food choices when we were OOP and it was such a difference than when we were on DDP.

WPE looks fantastic. We will have to try it next trip.
 
After we had made our initial reservations 2 months ago, we invited our friends to join us. Since we couldn’t get a reservation for 9, I made a second reservation for 5 and hoped that I could eventually get them combined. The concierge at AKL tried, but was unsuccessful. I went 45 minutes early and the woman at the check-in station was extremely helpful. She adjusted our reservation and we were good to go.

They seated us quickly and after our first trip through the buffet, Drusilla, one of the step-sisters dropped by the table. Within moments she had wished our daughter a happy-birthday and made googly eyes with our 10 year old son.

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Drusilla started talking about being engaged. The table loved it…my son, not so much. But he was a good sport and got up and took a “family photograph” with his fiancée and her new inlaws. She talked about how David’s sisters would be their servants – and she was sure they’d be better at taking care of her than Cinderella was. She was hilarious.

A few minutes later, she reentered the dining room and yelled “yoo hoo, David!” from about 3 tables away. We were so impressed she remembered his name. 10 minutes later, she came back by and found David. She yelled for her mother and the stepmother came over and started asking my son questions about the ring.

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When Prince Charming entered, Drusilla introduced David as her fiancé. He wished them a happy marriage. During dessert, the two step-sisters started fighting (across about 3 tables) about whether Drusilla would really marry our son. The stepsisters really played their parts well.

While dinner was just okay (one picture below), Drusilla and the other characters really made the dinner fun. We didn’t interact much with Cinderella – but she did come by and the 2 year old really liked her. And my hat’s off to my daughter. This was her birthday dinner celebration – but all the attention was on her brother David. Turns out that she says that the interactions with Drusilla was one of her favorite moments of the vacation! My son: not so much. But he does enjoy us telling the story of the stepsisters fighting over him : )

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Clockwise from left: chicken, beef, pork, edamame bean salad, pork stir fry, and green beans.

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I took this picture because of all the food choices on a buffet, my son chose rice and corn. DDP Dad pushed down the inner frugal dad who wasn’t getting his value and DDP Dad said to son: “mmm, the rice and corn looks good.”

Frankly, the table server wasn’t all that great. It wasn’t worth an 18% gratuity – but since there were 8 of us, it wasn’t an option. I guess it’s hard for every waiter to be friendly and attentive…but the stepsisters more than made up for it. Perhaps the step sisters get part of the gratuities?

Total Disney Table Service Credits Used: 4
Cost w/o DDP: $153 + tip ($38 pp)
Total OOP: $26 for a tip.

Total Cost for the Day:
4 QS
1 Snack
4 TS
Total OOP for Monday: $41
 
How much fun! I am loving the interaction you all got at 1900 Park Fare!

Also, it's so funny how "frugal Dad" never really goes away- sounds just like my DH!
 
We had the exact same characters at our PF dinner back in July of 2009. They were hilarious and totally worth the trip. The food, however, was not. I was also very disappointed in the service. We literally had piles of dirty dishes on our table, and our server was nowhere to be found until it was time to give us the bill and get paid.
Character interaction was awesome; the food was not.
 
AHH!!!! I'm scared now, hopefully they don't do the same thing to me lol :P

We are going for my sister's birthday
 
We (girlfriends) have an adr for dinner here and have never been here before. I'm not really going for the characters (its a leave the husbands and kids at home trip). We all have boys so this is one of the places we'd never have an adr for. ;) Not sure I want to keep it! Would you go back??? Thanks!
 
My beloved WGP Butternut Squash Soup counts as a snack? Be still my beating heart. Can one use all 28 snack credits on one food?:worship:

Great reviews and pictures. Thrifty never completely goes away. I know.:thumbsup2

Slightly Goofy who will be checking in tomorrow for TWO weeks!
 
I'm glad your son was a good sport about the new woman in his life! I love it when the characters get the older boys involved. Minnie made a BIG fuss over my then 15 yr old nephew at LTT years ago and he still can't live it down!

Great reviews!
 
Tuesday:

Breakfast in the room. Ran out of milk so had to buy a half gallon in the little store:
OOP $3.

Later in the week three of us are going to Hoop De Doo Revue (my wife wasn’t interested – so she and the 2 year old are staying home). Since HDDR takes 2 credits each, that leaves 2 extra TS credits. So we figured we’d try out a new restaurant and have the kids order off the regular kids menu or pick from the main menu.

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We had lunch at Kona’s. Overall the food was pretty good – but frugal dad had a hard time remembering he was DDP Dad since the adults were on meal plan and the three kids were ordering off the menu (kids portions are generally plenty of food for our kids).

My wife ordered the asian stir fry and I had the teriyaki steak. Both were quite good. Two kids had hot dogs and salads and our daughter had a salad and ravioli. All seemed fine. I had the crème brulee for dessert (pretty good), wife had an apple thing (beautiful and tasted good), two kids had ice cream and third had fruit salad.

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Asian Stir Fry

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Teriyaki Steak

Since this is an experiment btw the dining plan and not a plan – this lunch was an interesting test since the adults were on plan and the kids weren’t. Overall, I’d have to say that it wasn’t a great experience. Lunch was essentially $10 a kid for okay food. As for the adults, we avoided a $25 cost per person and since the dining plan costs $42 a day – I didn’t see how we’d eat $17 worth of quick service and a snack today. But we’ll see. (Note: turned out we did spend more than $17).

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Apple Turnover Dessert thing

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Creme Brulee

The other downside is that frugal dad failed to read the fine print. I had reviews of other people and seen that they had ordered an appetizer, entrée and dessert. I thought we could skip a kids meal or two and share our entrees and appetizers. I hadn’t noticed that you only get an entrée with the Deluxe DDP – and only figured it out that morning. So that was a bit of a downer – but completely my fault. (And by the way, how do people eat that much food on the Deluxe DDP? We’re stuffed with 2 meals a day. Of course, I’d be willing to try!).

Cost:

Total Disney Table Service Credits Used: 2 + $7.50 for tip
Cost w/o DDP: $50 ($25pp)

OOP: $31.75 (3 kids meals) + $7.50 tip = $39.25


After we finished lunch, we went back to AKL to hang out by the pool. We used our QS meals at the Mara at Jambo House. We thought the food was great – and when I did add in the snack, we did spend more than $17. So when we combine the Kona meals with the QS meals at the Mara, we at least broke even. My daughter and I had the African Stew (sorry, no picture), my wife had the Chicken Flatbread, and my son had chicken strips. I really liked the stew – my daughter not so much. She thought it was too spicy. My wife really liked the flatbread and the little bit she let me try, I enjoyed as well. And my son was a fan of the chicken strips – it was definitely chicken (unlike the chicken in the kids meals – which makes you wonder). Since there were several desserts to choose from – as well as more drink offerings than the standard options in the park – this ended up being a great place to eat. We stayed at Wilderness Lodge in 2009 and their quick service restaurant was tiny and didn’t have nearly the choices. We ended up eating here again later in the trip.
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Chicken flatbread—interesting flavor we liked a lot

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Zebra Domes – one of my favorite desserts. Light filling on the inside with white chocolate (?) coating. Was great.

Total Disney Quick Service Credits Used: 4
Cost w/o DDP: $61


Total Cost for the Day:
4 QS
0 Snack
2 TS
Total OOP for Monday: $41
 







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