A SEVENTH ship coming to DCL!

[Dug720]

This is what I wanted to say but couldn't be bothered to explain it lol.
I feel at the moment, if they sent a ship to Asia they'd have to adapt it for Asian cultures and ways of life and then potentially disappoint and put off westerners, or, keep the ships traditional DCL and not appeal to the Asian market...

Personally, I'd love to see a ship sail South America before Asia.

And we all know how much South Americans love Disney. Just look our for quince season!! LOL. All that chanting in such a small (relatively speaking) space!

 

[ChicosWife]

A permanent Hawaiian itinerary would be nice!!!

 

[truck1]

Thanks, I updated my post. I love your knowledge and appreciate the time and responses

My offer still stands that if anyone catches me on a ship, I have no problem talking ship

 

[Plaid Princess]

With 7 ships, they wouldn't miss one if it was down here in NZ/Australia

Sounds good. But if it comes there is no way that it will be there the whole year. Wouldn't be enough people to support it year round. A new Zeland and Australia cruise sounds great to me. But in reality once I look at plane prices and a 24 hour plane ride I will probably change my mind And thousands of other people.australia and new zeland might have 30 million people combine. 30 million sounds like a lot. But USA has over 300 and Disney has some problems filling 4 ships. That is also help from a lot of other countries mainly Canada, U.K. Probably the main two.but with Disney having some problems filling 4 ships with 7 it could happen. Think you might see one doing Asia and Australia area full time. But not one just in Australia.hopefully we will see better prices with 7 ships.

You're only considering Aussie and Kiwi locals. Australia has a huge existing tourism market, and flights to and from Asia and the rest of Oceania are frequently quite affordable. If Disney goes into the Australasia market, they likely won't be focusing primarily on American tourists. I don't think they'd have any trouble filling a ship out of Sydney or Melbourne, particularly as there are multiple potential itineraries in and around Australia, New Zealand, and surrounding islands. Particularly if they team up with AbD to offer extended trips on the continent.

Yes- I wish we could get a year round ship out of California, offering more than 2-3 night cruises. There were only two 7-night opportunities for Mexico this year, which drives the price up.

Yes! This is long overdue. Having 2+ ships permanently on the East coast, and 1 ship for a few weeks on the West Coast is ridiculous.

Thx. Then I wonder why DCL originally scheduled #5 & #6 with a gap year in-between. Unless three ships was their plan all along, and they intentionally "sat" on one to save it for this year's D23?

And if three ships wasn't their plan all along, I wonder what changed.......

The rumor among the CM's is that there was already a contract in place for more than just the two announced ships, they were just keeping the cards close to their chest.

My favorite ships, I hope they keep them in service forever. Or build new ones based on the "Classic" style and size.

I agree, I LOVE the Magic Class ships.

 

[Shanti]

I hope the prices come down a bit once 7 ships are fully in service.

 

[3monkeys4me]

I hope the prices come down a bit once 7 ships are fully in service.

Me too! We would love to take a Disney cruise with our extended family but unfortunately it is priced too high for some of our family members.

I think Disney would do quite well in the Asian or Australian market. We live in Oceania and I would have loved to have had the opportunity to sail Disney while here. We did get the chance to take a cruise on RCCL out of Hong Kong and it was amazing. We were hoping to do one out of Singapore in 2018 but we can't make the dates work. We will be doing a Australia/New Zealand cruise in early 2019 instead and getting our Disney fix with Park visits instead. We've only been to HKD for now, but looking forward to SDL in December and TDL the following year.

Unfortunately we will be leaving this area in mid 2019 so we wont be able to experience any Disney cruises out of this area before we leave. I do hope for a west coast ship, any ship as it would be much easier for us to get to port that way.

 

[bbel]

The rumor among the CM's is that there was already a contract in place for more than just the two announced ships, they were just keeping the cards close to their chest.

Yes, because DCL tell their CMs everything.
Honestly, even those high up officers know very little on what is being decided shoreside.
Those that do know anything, won't be telling other CMs or guests.

But I'm excited to read all the 'my server told me....' stories as it comes nearer the time

 

[Dug720]

Yes, because DCL tell their CMs everything.
Honestly, even those high up officers know very little on what is being decided shoreside.
Those that do know anything, won't be telling other CMs or guests.

But I'm excited to read all the 'my server told me....' stories as it comes nearer the time

Yep! It's the DCL equivalent of "my bus driver said" at the resort.

 

[truck1]

Yep! It's the DCL equivalent of "my bus driver said" at the resort.

Every once in a while you get one that knows what's going on. But they are few and far in between.

 

[truck1]

Yes, because DCL tell their CMs everything.
Honestly, even those high up officers know very little on what is being decided shoreside.
Those that do know anything, won't be telling other CMs or guests.

But I'm excited to read all the 'my server told me....' stories as it comes nearer the time

I think there may be maybe 3 or 4 vrew members that actually know most details. They would be Commodore Tom, the senior or chief engineer, the senior hotel manager, and 1 other whos title escapes me at the moment. Basically, these people know the ships inside out, and can tell you what's working, whats not, and what needs improvement. And they aren't talking to the public about it. These are the people that 200 and 210 Celebration would have meetings with to go over blueprints etc. Along with their shoresode equivalent.

 

[bbel]

Every once in a while you get one that knows what's going on. But they are few and far in between.

Very few.
Very far.
Very shouldn't be talking to guests about it.

 

[MillauFr]

I hope the prices come down a bit once 7 ships are fully in service.

That is what I am hoping. $11k for an Alaskan cruise when the other mass market lines were charging less than $4k??? Maybe they'll have two ships there in the Summer and mark the price down so they can fill the ships.

 

[cruiser21]

I was on cruise critic reading reviews. I came across a Carnival review on a South Pacific cruise out of Sydney Dec 2015. The reviewer was complaining about the number of kids onboard over 900. Sounds like a good market for Disney.

 

[mhorgan65]

I was on cruise critic reading reviews. I came across a Carnival review on a South Pacific cruise out of Sydney Dec 2015. The reviewer was complaining about the number of kids onboard over 900. Sounds like a good market for Disney.

They could easily tie it into something like Hawaii and make stopes at Caledonia, and other Polynesian stops for an epic long 14 night cruise.

 

[Plaid Princess]

Yes, because DCL tell their CMs everything.
Honestly, even those high up officers know very little on what is being decided shoreside.
Those that do know anything, won't be telling other CMs or guests.

But I'm excited to read all the 'my server told me....' stories as it comes nearer the time

I was referring to friends a bit higher up at Burbank, but yes... I do enjoy a good "my server told me" story.

I was on cruise critic reading reviews. I came across a Carnival review on a South Pacific cruise out of Sydney Dec 2015. The reviewer was complaining about the number of kids onboard over 900. Sounds like a good market for Disney.

Particularly because it's a market with a bit of a "Disney Gap" so to speak. Families in Australia/NZ/New Guinea etc. would have to travel either to CA or Asia for their closest Disney experience.

 

[cruiser21]

I was referring to friends a bit higher up at Burbank, but yes... I do enjoy a good "my server told me" story.



Particularly because it's a market with a bit of a "Disney Gap" so to speak. Families in Australia/NZ/New Guinea etc. would have to travel either to CA or Asia for their closest Disney experience.

If what I've read about Australians is true they are big on vacations and don't mind pulling kids out of school for vacations. I think for DCL to be successful in Australia they would need the families. It seems like from what I've read they could get that there. If I'm wrong I'm sure someone from Australia can correct me.

 

[ahain]

I'm bumping this up just because I like reading threads that seem "happy" and give me something to look forward to....I look forward to DCLs new ships an hope to be able to sail on each one in their first year...but who knows where the ships will sail and what DCLs strategy will be for them.

I like threads relating to new itineraries being announced as well, but then inevitably the "...OMG the new prices are ridiculous.." threads come out and always seem to turn negative.

 

[JWG]

With 2021 coming in 3 years (though could be a late launch and closer to 4), I would imagine designs for the new ship(s) will be out within the next 12 months. Curious to see.

 

[T & R]

I was wondering if they will actually keep 7 ships or if the newer ones are meant to replace the Magic and Wonder. By the time the new ships come out, the Magic and Wonder will be close to 25 yrs old. At what point does the maintenance or replacement of the older machinery become more expensive than the total cost of the ship? Also, the expense/rate of fuel consumption on older ships vs. the new LNG fueled ships. In this era of environmental concern, global warming, etc., DCL could definitely put a positive PR spin on retiring older ships and moving their fleet over to LNG fuel which is one of the cleanest burning alternative fuels. Just saying.

 

[truck1]

I was wondering if they will actually keep 7 ships or if the newer ones are meant to replace the Magic and Wonder. By the time the new ships come out, the Magic and Wonder will be close to 25 yrs old. At what point does the maintenance or replacement of the older machinery become more expensive than the total cost of the ship? Also, the expense/rate of fuel consumption on older ships vs. the new LNG fueled ships. In this era of environmental concern, global warming, etc., DCL could definitely put a positive PR spin on retiring older ships and moving their fleet over to LNG fuel which is one of the cleanest burning alternative fuels. Just saying.

Theyll keep all 7. The Magic class and even the Dream class are designed for a 40-50 year lifespan. The Magic class is barely there. What will kill a ships life span is SOLAS and the alphabet soup organizations that regulate shipping. Another advantage is that with an older paid off smaller ship, they can send her to test out ports with little to no risk. Send in something like say an Allure class ship, and it my take say 3000 people to break even where on a smaller ship it may take 1000 to break even. As far as environmental concerns, cruise line in general are finding ways to help. Whether its the fuels they burn,( as in better quality diesel vs bunker oil) or investing in scrubbers, lines are investing in tech to help with the carbon foot prints.