A serious question to consider

[What the Heck]

So, if you work for the Senate, you never travel out of state? People were stranded for several days after 9/11, due to airports closing & long delays for departure once they re-opened. It would not be surprising if he were out of state, trying to travel back home.

Also, why would you assume he went to church? Not everyone grieves and handles traumatic events in the same way. Maybe he was at home with his family that day, maybe he was at church-who knows?

I think the problem with these red flags is too many people trying so hard to create them...

I assume he went to church because his campaign used to make a big deal about how religious he was, how attacked to the church he was. In other words, I assume it because of his own words.

He didn't work for teh Senate, he worked for the Illinois Senate, and if he had traveled out of state, he would have had to have had an amazing reason to be considered for the US Senate a few years after.

 

[Buckalew11]

So now we are supposed to fear Obama because he may have heard controversial words at some point in his life? Good grief.

Who said to fear him? I said he has sent some red flags and we've chosen to ignore them. Staying a member of this church for 20+ years is quite different from *hearing some controversial words*.

 

[stacyp9]

If this was one issue, no. But his spiritual advisor was Reverand Wright. His financial backing comes from Tony Rezko (a convicted felon who may be providing criminal evidence against both Blagovich and Obama). His first job came from Bill Ayers and he worked on several boards with him concerning educational ideas - far, far left educational ideas. Over and over and over. For 20 years. 20 years is not just some point in his life. Good grief.

Sigh. You are really really really misinformed. Tonight I don't have the energy to educate other than to advise that the stuff that O'Reilly and Limbaugh spew is often not accurate, grossly distorted or just bald-faced lies. As to the emails that the tin-foil beanie crowd is circulating, well I tend to be suspicious of unsolicited emails that have annonymous sources, but that's just me.

Carry on with the hand wringing, I'll bow out.

 

[EpcotBeauty]

I have no idea where barack Obama was on Sept. 16th 2001.
Church? Maybe, maybe not.

Look, personally I think Obama heard plenty of Wright's ideas. In church or not. The people they associated with are full of those types of ideas. So whether he was in church that Sunday or not, I believe he was exposed to those ideas more than once and knew full well what Rev. Wright believed. He chose to stay and remain very close to this man.
America has chosen to look past every red flag Obama has tossed up at us.

Exactly. I would be willing to bet that Obama holds the same beliefs as his dear friend Rev. Wright.

 

[stacyp9]

Who said to fear him? I said he has sent some red flags and we've chose to ignore them. Staying a member of this church for 20+ years is quite different from *hearing some controverisal words*.

Pst, your own guy says that Obama does not share Wright's worldview. If that's the case, what is there to talk about?

 

[What the Heck]

Holy crap, who cares. maybe he went to Baskin Robins for a double scoop of jamoca almond fudge and went back home to have a conjugal visit with his lovely wife.

I mean, seriously....

You can nit pick to till the cows come home. OK, my turn...I still wanna know how Cindy McCain served not time for stealing SHIPMENTS of narcotics for personal use. I wanna know who John McCain made a deal with.

How much longer do you want to play this petty game.

(psssssst.....did you heat that Obama may not have a legitimate birth certificate....)

Oh snore.

Then why do you not want to know what Obama didn't serve tmie for the narcotics he admitted to using in his personal use? Why don't you wanna know who Barack Obama made a deal with?

This was his spiritual advisor. This was someone who helped him form his opinions, his point of view. And he (Wright) is a racist who blames the US for everything. Bill Ayers has been his friend for 20 years. Bill Ayers is a terrorist who blames the US for everything. Tony Rezko is his friend and has been for 20 years. If it wasn't for Tony Rezko, Obama never would have been able to get into politics. And Tony Rezko believes you should get all you can from whoever you can, even if you have to steal. These are the people who he chose to work with, to do deals with, to provide political favor for, to give millions of dollars to (except Wright). And this isn't an issue? This isn't a red flag?

Even Joe Biden brought the story that his mom told him not to "hang out with the people on the street corners....if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck". Obama not only hung out on the street corners with the "gang", he actively supported them and accepted their support. But he's not one of them. Because he said so. And his supporters say so. And his supporters say it isn't an issue. Because he said so.

 

[EveDallas]

I wasn't in church. Didn't know I should have been....

 

[Anewman]

Sigh. You are really really really misinformed. Tonight I don't have the energy to educate other than to advise that the stuff that O'Reilly and Limbaugh spew is often not accurate, grossly distorted or just bald-faced lies. As to the emails that the tin-foil beanie crowd is circulating, well I tend to be suspicious of unsolicited emails that have annonymous sources, but that's just me.

Carry on with the hand wringing, I'll bow out.

You can not debate with the connections or assumptions that some make, if they say Obama and Ayers, Rezko, Hitler are friends... nothing is going to change that in their opinion. agree to disagree and let it go.

 

[stacyp9]

oooooooooo. So far. Ever been there? I have. I've made the trip several times. But for some reason he couldn't make it in 5 days?

Yes, many times. Your entire argument is specious and based entirely on speculation.

 

[wardfamily1]

You can not debate with the connections or assumptions that some make, if they say Obama and Ayers, Rezko, Hitler are friends....

I think you meant Wright, not Hitler. That would make it a correct statement.

 

[stacyp9]

You can not debate with the connections or assumptions that some make, if they say Obama and Ayers, Rezko, Hitler are friends... nothing is going to change that in their opinion. agree to disagree and let it go.

Actually, when motivated the nonsense is pretty easy to disprove and/or counter with worse connections on the other side. I have a sick kid tonight though so eyerolls are easier.

 

[disneyjunkie]

I wasn't in church. Didn't know I should have been....

Add me to the list.

Maybe I need to read THE DIS UNOFFICIAL GUIDE: HOW TO HANDLE AND REACT TO A TRAGEDY

 

[Buckalew11]

Pst, your own guy says that Obama does not share Wright's worldview. If that's the case, what is there to talk about?

Who the heck is "my own guy"? McCain?
Oh please, . I have no idea what McCain thinks of Obama and Wright. I don't need "my own guy" to tell me what to think or not to think. McCain is hardly "my guy".
I really wanted new choices for everyone.

 

[perla75]

I assume he went to church because his campaign used to make a big deal about how religious he was, how attacked to the church he was. In other words, I assume it because of his own words.

He didn't work for teh Senate, he worked for the Illinois Senate, and if he had traveled out of state, he would have had to have had an amazing reason to be considered for the US Senate a few years after.

Ok, I was about to move on, as this is a ridiculous topic, but please humor me-if you work for a state senate, you are never allowed to travel out of state ever?

PS: I'm still waiting to hear what the OP's "serious question to consider" is???

 

[Barbossa]

So. What.

 

[stacyp9]

Who the heck is "my own guy"? McCain?
Oh please, . I have no idea what McCain thinks of Obama and Wright. I don't need "my own guy" to tell me what to think or not to think. McCain is hardly "my guy".
I really wanted new choices for everyone.

Then you will not be voting for McCain? Cool.

 

[Rafiki Rafiki Rafiki]

I will be SO GLAD when this election is over so I don't have to keep opening topics to find a bunch of worthless, tired candidate-bashing.

 

[Buckalew11]

Then you will not be voting for McCain? Cool.

Too late. Already voted.

But he certainly isn't "my own guy". I do not listen to what people think of Rev. Wright and Obama. I read the facts from all perspectives and make up my own mind.
And with that said again, I'm off to bed. Y'all enjoy the thread.

 

[stacyp9]

Too late. Already voted.

But he certainly isn't "my own guy". I do not listen to what people think of Rev. Wright and Obama. I read the facts from all perspectives and make up my own mind.
And with that said again, I'm off to bed. Y'all enjoy the thread.

Oh, you like facts? Excellent.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html

 

[Goofyluver]

I think I've seen this thread before.

Is this like Groundhog Day?

Where we live the same thread over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and...well, you get the gist.

I'll take I have nothing else to argue about so I'll just drag up the same ol' things again and again for $1000 Alex.