A question about DLR rules

[BriannaRuth]

Let's bring this all down to the common denominator of Walt. Why did he build Disneyland? After visiting some dirty carnival, he thought of the great idea to create a safe and clean place for a father to take his children for a day of fun.

So I'll ask this. When Walt said "clean", do you think he just meant a park free of dirt and grease?

You are so right.

 

[Nosepass]

This is just like flash photography in rides.

Yes, the right thing to do is to respect others and refrain. But if the CM started enforcing those rules that would create a lot of conflict and introduce a kind of a "policed" feel that's really detrimental to the Disney spirit. I don't want to see your camera flash or hear your obscene conversations; I also don't want to see people arguing with CM's and being escorted out. I think this is a case of the perfect being the enemy of the good.

 

[bcla]

This is just like flash photography in rides.

Yes, the right thing to do is to respect others and refrain. But if the CM started enforcing those rules that would create a lot of conflict and introduce a kind of a "policed" feel that's really detrimental to the Disney spirit. I don't want to see your camera flash or hear your obscene conversations; I also don't want to see people arguing with CM's and being escorted out. I think this is a case of the perfect being the enemy of the good.

I think it may be a matter of whether or not they feel that someone has crossed the line.

I mean - most of us understand the rules on bringing food in. If you don't excessively call attention to your own outside food, it's not an issue. If you've got a picnic spread, it is an issue.

I could easily see some potty mouth get escorted out of Disneyland, just as I've seen it happen at retail stores or sporting events.

 

[mikedoyleblogger]

I was not going to say anything further in this thread, but I would like to clarify part of my original post and make a few comments.

When I used the word "ignorant," I was meaning "discourteous or rude," which is one meaning of the word. I certainly didn't mean that a person who curses is not intelligent.

A few posters have suggested that if I am offended by language, I should step away. This would be hard to do if I am standing in a line to ride and have been there for a while, hearing the person's foul language.

One poster asked how I would warn my DH and SIL. In the past we have not encountered a lot of bad language so if things have gotten worse I simply wanted to let them know what to expect. But from what I read, this is not the case, thankfully. They would not start a confrontation, but they would not be pleased to hear someone calling a lady names. And that issue is what prompted my original question.

Maybe part of this issue is generational. I am a very senior citizen. When I was growing up, cursing was not as prevalent as it is today, especially from women and kids. Obviously times have changed, but I still believe that cursing is unnecessary and impolite. And using the "f" word as one's only adjective is ugly.

You have no reason to defend yourself. Your family is allowed to feel however it feels about profanity, whether heard in Disneyland or outside of it. Anyone who criticizes you for it is out of line. It isn't their right to determine your values. Although the fact remains that CMs really won't police language in the parks unless something really egregious happens, you're right. Standing in line next to someone with a foul mouth is awful (I've been there before!), and you have nothing to lose by complaining to a CM. I would bet in that situation, you would not be the only person or family feeling offended in that queue.

As far as discourteous, ignorant, and rude, I think you're right there, too. It's all of those things to use profanity at a place like Disneyland. It says a lot about how you respect yourself and how you respect--or don't respect--other people. The grief that you're getting in this thread is uncalled for, and to my mind, more than a bit disrespectful.

 

[Aladora]

You have no reason to defend yourself. Your family is allowed to feel however it feels about profanity, whether heard in Disneyland or outside of it. Anyone who criticizes you for it is out of line. It isn't their right to determine your values. Although the fact remains that CMs really won't police language in the parks unless something really egregious happens, you're right. Standing in line next to someone with a foul mouth is awful (I've been there before!), and you have nothing to lose by complaining to a CM. I would bet in that situation, you would not be the only person or family feeling offended in that queue.

As far as discourteous, ignorant, and rude, I think you're right there, too. It's all of those things to use profanity at a place like Disneyland. It says a lot about how you respect yourself and how you respect--or don't respect--other people. The grief that you're getting in this thread is uncalled for, and to my mind, more than a bit disrespectful.

One could say the same to those who do not feel the same way you or the OP do about profanity.

 

[mikedoyleblogger]

One could say the same to those who do not feel the same way you or the OP do about profanity.

No, they couldn't "say the same thing" about my or OP's feelings. What you are referring to is a discussion about hypothetical behavior in the parks, which is entirely a different matter. We don't get to disrespect fellow DISers because they don't share our opinions. That's against TOS.

 

[Aladora]

No, they couldn't "say the same thing" about my or OP's feelings. What you are referring to is a discussion about hypothetical behavior in the parks, which is entirely a different matter. We don't get to disrespect fellow DISers because they don't share our opinions. That's against TOS.

How is calling someone ignorant not disrespecting them?

 

[mikedoyleblogger]

How is calling someone ignorant not disrespecting them?

How is saying that you can call me or OP names based on our opinions allowable under the TOS of the DIS? So often differences of opinion here devolve into hostility. I don't get it, but it sure keeps me away from here more than it keeps me here.

 

[Dot2Vegas]

So often differences of opinion here devolve into hostility. I don't get it, but it sure keeps me away from here more than it keeps me here.

Agreed! Its sad when people can't express difference of opinion without it getting hostile or turning into accusations.

 

[GeneralTso]

How do your husband and SIL move about in the world outside of Disneyland? I'm sure they encounter swearing. Whatever works for them there, should work in Disneyland.

Disneyland is full of regular people from ALL walks of life. There isn't a different set of people inside the magical gates. That's way too high of an expectation for a theme park!

I've heard worse things said at children. Some of the yelling and belittling I've heard parents do their children is a nightmare. That's the kind of interaction that is more upsetting to me. Especially in the evening, that witching hour when kids start to melt down and parents want their money's worth for the entire day. Yikes.

 

[Lisa71]

Ok I kind of like my kids occasionally hearing a bad word in public because they gasp and give them a look of shock. It stops it better than any adult..that being said I have rarely heard a bad word at DLR and my kids never have heard one there. We live in CA so I have been a lot. It is not socially common there..now the freeways around it..another story. My kids also get shocked with words like stupid, shut up, fat, etc as those are also bad words at our house.

 

[AddictedtoDoleWhip]

People are going to use profanity whether you are at Disneyland or not, and getting all upset over it and causing a hooplah is not going to end well for either party. If the cursing is not directed at you, or your family members then it would be best to keep to yourself imo. Telling someone what to do is only going to have them do it more, and louder too.

The curse words are just words that society has deemed as inappropriate, but in reality they are part of the english language.

 

[Corpsebride]

I've been in line at HM, in the twist and turn part where we are all sort if trapped. The party in front of us were dropping f-bombs, and the party behind us had kids. I'd say about 7? Y.o. one little boy , wide eyed, heard every word. The offender didn't notice a bit. For what ever reason, themom hadn't noticed, ,so, I just put my finger to my lips in the Shhhhh sign, to the offender, and pointed the wee guy, learning a "new language" , the offender sort of giggled and realized his error and stopped. I think he was embarrassed. I don't have kids. I've been known to swearevery now and then. Not in front of kids, not at Disneyland, not to strangers.I'm curious how t be op would actually handle this situation since I'm curious. And, in a non violent way, how does anyone else handle it? My position is that kids hear more than we credit them. They see more and understand more. They are going to hear those words one day and maybe even use some. But, I don't think dl is the place for that education.

 

[whoever]

Little pitchers have big ears

 

[dadofnicholas]

As much as I do not want my son seeing bad behaviour or hearing bad language, it is life. We do not live in a bubble.

However, I take EVERY opportunity to explain to him why that is not a good behaviour, word, or decision... regardless if the offender is nearby or not. If you can act however or say whatever you want, so can I.

For my son anyway, he seems to see the bad behaviour or hear the foul language more often and much quicker than I. I don't blame him for pointing it out because he is taught proper behaviour at his school and at our home.

Many opportunities for little people lessons at Disneyland

 

[nannyz]

I am the OP and I just want to say Thank You to all who responded to my post.

I got my answer -- there is no official Disney rule against profanity.

 

[perlster]

No, you didn't get the correct answer. It's here, but no one seems to have payed any attention to it.

 

[whoever]

No, you didn't get the correct answer. It's here, but no one seems to have payed any attention to it.

The correct answer is that no, there is no official rule against it, people who are swearing in DL are inconsiderate jerks.

 

[Stinkerbe11]

In their literature, they actually do include profanity in a list of what not to do.

Safety Considerations: isneyland works to maintain a comfortable, safe and enjoyable environment for all Guests. Please assist by showing common courtesy to fellow Park Guests. Please be respectful of others. Do not use profanity or engage in unsafe, illegal or offensive behavior. Please abide by all safety warnings and notices. Proper attire, including shirts and shoes, must be worn at all times.

They have asked their guests not to use profanity. Will they enforce it? In most cases, probably not... I think it really just comes down to common courtesy and respect

 

[perlster]

The correct answer is that no, there is no official rule against it, people who are swearing in DL are inconsiderate jerks.

Repeating a falsehood doesn't make it true.