A question about DLR rules

[mummabear]

I would expect you will find about as much swearing inside the parks as out of it.
I agree with the above poster as well that what is considered a swear word in one country might be pretty common and acceptable in another.

 

[nannyz]

alvernon90, you are way off base in your suggestion about us, but I will let it slide.

 

[ronandannette]

I know that DLR has rules about offensive clothing, etc., but what about offensive language and cursing? Do they do anything about folks with potty mouths?

If not, then I need to warn my husband and son-in-law because they cannot abide such ignorant people.

Thanks for the responses.
I asked the question mainly because of the posts where folks had nasty names and cursing directed at them personally.
I can overlook cursing in general -- that's just ignorance -- but when directed at me, it's another story.
It certainly won't keep me from enjoying my time at DLR.

alvernon90, you are way off base in your suggestion about us, but I will let it slide.

The PP you're referring to may have put it a little more abrasively than I would have, but I'm also confused as to why you're anticipating this being such a big issue? As for the bolded above, I'm pretty regular on these boards and can't remember tons of posts of this nature and having visited DL several times I can assure you there are not roving bands of F-bombers laying in wait. It's highly unlikely other visitors will direct ANY kind of attention towards you unless you do something to attract it.

As many on this thread have said, if you overhear offensive language simply ask politely for the speakers to refrain or remove yourselves. It's nice that your DH and DSIL have the standards that they do but the way you worded it kind of implies that their code of chivalry might include taking aggressive action if they perceive they (or you) have been offended. It's pretty hard to get through life peacefully that way.

 

[drew64]

I know that DLR has rules about offensive clothing, etc., but what about offensive language and cursing? Do they do anything about folks with potty mouths?

If not, then I need to warn my husband and son-in-law because they cannot abide such ignorant people.

It's a big park, you, and your easily offended husband and son-in-law can just move away from any conversation you do not like.

 

[nannyz]

OK I get what everyone is saying.
Thanks to everyone for your input.

 

[bumbershoot]

I agree that a polite reminder is probably the way to go. In Australia we have a more casual approach to cursing and it's really not a big deal unless it's accompanied by aggressive behaviour. There are also words that are considered cursing or just plain rude in the US, which are perfectly acceptable in any company in Australia.

Goes the other way, too. After all, you have to deal with what we call a "waist pack"! Shudder to think of that....


Also imagining the ops family if they were near an old acquaintance of mine. Sweetest guy, smart and driven, but wow his mouth. We we're in grad school together and every third word was a swear most of the time. It was just how he talked. I got the impression that it was how his family talked, how he grew up, so the thought of kids being around wouldn't impress him. After all if he learned it at home, then why would he care?

 

[mikedoyleblogger]

I believe the only enforcement powers most CMs have is planned crowd control. They aren't allowed to confront guests or even defend themselves from guest abuse. The most they can do is verbally remind guests of specific policies. (For example, the Walt Disney Company diversity policy gets reiterated during Gay Days if guests complain about the unofficial event.) Enforcement in terms of acceptable behavior is left to Security CMs. I think it would take a lot for a CM to elevate an issue to the point of calling in Security, though, and I don't think profanity would trigger something like that unless it were really abusive/egregious.

 

[Fantaluminishes]

In my opinion, people who get offended by foul language, choose to be offended. I don't like religious fanatics shouting bible verses in public. But it's free speech, just like the cuss words. Now if people are being hostile towards others, that's a different story.

If you go to Disneyland looking for people cussing, you will probably find it. Especially with groups of teens and young adults. When I was at WDW last year, I heard many kids using all kinds of bad language. I didn't let it bother me.

What I don't approve of is Disney Cast members using foul language while they are working. I've heard this a few times at DL and WDW. I have also approached them directly about their language, and they apologized immediately.

 

[DizMe]

I do get offended by lots of swearing. I don't do anything about it as it isn't something that is up to me to decide for others, though I have leveled a cold stare or two. I was brought up to believe that people who resort to continuous swearing lack either the skill or upbringing to manage conversation without it. Of course, if it's part of their upbringing, they look at me as an uptight prude who ought to move forward into the current century, so there you go. I do think it show a lack of respect for others when it is loud and public and I get miffed when it's used in front of--or worse, directed at--young kids.

As to what CMs could/should do about it, I don't know. I doubt they have any authority to stop it, and there you would run into free speech issues, but I think a friendly reminder from a CM might be a good idea in many cases.

 

[zanzibar138]

Goes the other way, too. After all, you have to deal with what we call a "waist pack"! Shudder to think of that....

After years of DISing I have gotten used to that phrase - took a while though and a lot of giggling in the meantime!

 

[dragonflycurls]

I do get offended by lots of swearing. I don't do anything about it as it isn't something that is up to me to decide for others, though I have leveled a cold stare or two. I was brought up to believe that people who resort to continuous swearing lack either the skill or upbringing to manage conversation without it. Of course, if it's part of their upbringing, they look at me as an uptight prude who ought to move forward into the current century, so there you go. I do think it show a lack of respect for others when it is loud and public and I get miffed when it's used in front of--or worse, directed at--young kids. As to what CMs could/should do about it, I don't know. I doubt they have any authority to stop it, and there you would run into free speech issues, but I think a friendly reminder from a CM might be a good idea in many cases.

I agree with you. Fwiw free speech only applies to the government interfering in your right to speak. It has nothing to so with using foul language on a company's property Disney could and should discourage this behavior. I used to live near a popular beach town and they had these funny no signs all over prohibiting the use of curse words and can be fined in certain instances.

 

[crz4mm2]

hooo boy.

I curse. Sorry if you are offended.

 

[perlster]

"Do not use profanity"

 

[sweetpee_1993]

Sorry. Double post. Using the app it appears to not post but then it does. Go figure.

 

[sweetpee_1993]

hooo boy. I curse. Sorry if you are offended.

Yep. I'm an adult. I curse. The amazing part is that I swear AND I'm highly intelligent. Imagine that!

 

[crz4mm2]

I'm a grown up. I do too. AND I'm intelligent. Imagine that!

Me too

 

[bcla]

I would hope that most people have an on-off switch. I mean - I can't imagine that someone in a business meeting using blank this and blank that is going to last long in any place I've worked. Occasionally someone lets it loose in more casual water-cooler talk, but that generally been rare.

I think first and foremost Disneyland is for kids, so I would hope that most people could use at least a little bit of discretion. Yeah - I'm occasionally known to use some foul language, but not in the immediate presence of my own child nor when I know I'm in the presence of children. Sometimes people need to mind their manners and be aware of their surroundings. Disneyland doesn't have any specific rules on it, but most ballparks I've been to have posted codes of conduct that use of foul language by spectators is grounds for ejection. I've actually seen it happen a few times.

Now they do say that they're trying to be "family friendly". I would think they would try to diffuse a situation before escalating to calling security, but I could see someone being ejected and for good cause. This part of the FAQ is mostly about appropriate clothing, but it also seems like a policy that's meant for any kind of behavior on their properties:

https://disneyland.disney.go.com/faq/parks/#parks-q11

Ensuring that the parks are family friendly is an important part of the Disney experience. In that spirit, we ask you to use your discretion and common sense.

I you look further down, they do state that people with objectionable tattoos (especially with "obscene language") will be asked to cover them up.

 

[sweetpee_1993]

I would hope that most people have an on-off switch. I mean - I can't imagine that someone in a business meeting using blank this and blank that is going to last long in any place I've worked. Occasionally someone lets it loose in more casual water-cooler talk, but that generally been rare. I think first and foremost Disneyland is for kids, so I would hope that most people could use at least a little bit of discretion. Yeah - I'm occasionally known to use some foul language, but not in the immediate presence of my own child nor when I know I'm in the presence of children. Sometimes people need to mind their manners and be aware of their surroundings. Disneyland doesn't have any specific rules on it, but most ballparks I've been to have posted codes of conduct that use of foul language by spectators is grounds for ejection. I've actually seen it happen a few times. Now they do say that they're trying to be "family friendly". I would think they would try to diffuse a situation before escalating to calling security, but I could see someone being ejected and for good cause. This part of the FAQ is mostly about appropriate clothing, but it also seems like a policy that's meant for any kind of behavior on their properties: I you look further down, they do state that people with objectionable tattoos (especially with "obscene language") will be asked to cover them up.

Depends on the business/company I suppose. I've sat in business meetings discussing multi-billion dollar projects and swearing definitely happened. A lot.

Yes I swear. I don't make it a habit to run around shouting profanity in front of children or adults. Yes, I can tone it out when I need to just like I can put on uncomfortable shoes if I need to. Neither the language or uncomfortable shoes define who I am or are indicative of my intelligence level. It's just the way I talk when I'm being myself. If I'm having a private, quiet, non-intrusive conversation with my husband or anyone else it's nobody's business what I say. If someone or their children are eavesdropping...well....

I think the original post was more about people swearing AT another person in a rude or aggressive way. That's inappropriate, for sure. I would imagine if you were going to take it up with security to try to get someone ejected it'd be best to have witnesses so it's not one person's word against another. KWIM? Then the morality police (internet standard, really) had to make the comments about people who swear being ignorant or whatever. Or bad in some way. That's where I'd like to raise my hand and be the shining example of the great human beings, perfectly intelligent, heart of gold, the whole 9 yards in spite of the fact that my everyday at-ease language could make a sailor blush. At least I don't judge or label people. Right? But that's another topic unto itself that has nothing to do with Disney, really. I'll let it go at that.

 

[whoever]

I was brought up to believe that people who resort to continuous swearing lack either the skill or upbringing to manage conversation without it. .

This. Lack of a decent vocabulary, so its F this, F that.

Don't get me wrong, there's a time and a place, and when an F-bomb is just the perfect adjective, but Disneyland sure isn't the place for it.

 

[bcla]

Depends on the business/company I suppose. I've sat in business meetings discussing multi-billion dollar projects and swearing definitely happened. A lot.

Yes I swear. I don't make it a habit to run around shouting profanity in front of children or adults. Yes, I can tone it out when I need to just like I can put on uncomfortable shoes if I need to. Neither the language or uncomfortable shoes define who I am or are indicative of my intelligence level. It's just the way I talk when I'm being myself. If I'm having a private, quiet, non-intrusive conversation with my husband or anyone else it's nobody's business what I say. If someone or their children are eavesdropping...well....

I think the original post was more about people swearing AT another person in a rude or aggressive way. That's inappropriate, for sure. I would imagine if you were going to take it up with security to try to get someone ejected it'd be best to have witnesses so it's not one person's word against another. KWIM? Then the morality police (internet standard, really) had to make the comments about people who swear being ignorant or whatever. Or bad in some way. That's where I'd like to raise my hand and be the shining example of the great human beings, perfectly intelligent, heart of gold, the whole 9 yards in spite of the fact that my everyday at-ease language could make a sailor blush. At least I don't judge or label people. Right? But that's another topic unto itself that has nothing to do with Disney, really. I'll let it go at that.

I'd like to think that most people have control of their behavior and language. Of course I've met many people who don't seem to have that ability. You know - the kind of people who can't seem to keep a steady job and are moved from place to place because they end up not being able to control their language and end up cussing out their bosses.

However, everyone simply needs to be able to judge the situation. I think - what would I do if I was at a child's birthday party? I was actually at one recently. Everyone was having a good time, including adult beverages for the adults who wanted it. However, not a single person used language that would have gotten a stare from another adult or even a request to stop it and leave.