a note to servers

[lacrosse_lady72]

I think it's sad that so many people think it's OK to monetarily punish a server for the rules set upon their employers. Very sad.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I'm with Frank on this one. There might be rules... but they should be treated as guidelines.

It seems in some places there might be laws. They don't have them here that I am aware of since I just bought wine at Publix yesterday and was not carded.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

That would make this country a pretty awful place to live wouldn't it? Kind of makes me sad if that actually did happen. That would make us no better than any fascist nation anyplace.

What? That they would perform stings at all--or that they would try to arrange a scenario to entrap an establishment into breaking the law.

As it is--I don't like stings...but they do exist and are well within the law. Regardless of what country it compares us to.

We must remember that for an establishment to be able to sell alcohol, they have paid for the privilege to do so. They don't legally have to sell one drop.

At any time they can decide to not sell/serve it to you--even for something as simple as not having an id. On airplanes, they can limit you to one drink--even though, legally--there is no law that limits what a 21yo can consume legally. But they do it for their own reasons. (no idea if it is an FAA thing or not!)

Establishments are permitted to protect themselves. Even if it is with asenine blanket policies. To me--it really isn't all that big of a deal nor is it a threat to civil liberties.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I'm with Frank on this one. There might be rules... but they should be treated as guidelines. Not every situation is the same, and common sense needs to be taken into consideration. Even when it comes to a manager reprimanding an employee.

I'd probably be the first one fired for not carding an 80yr old. There's no way I'm going to question or doubt that person's age.

Once again, I'm going to use Fenway Park (Boston Red Sox baseball stadium, for those who don't recognize the name ). The posted rule is everyone must show ID to get beer. They don't care if you're 21 or 101. No ID, no beer.

 

[FireDancer]

Look, I am not on here telling anyone else how to tip or why. It is none of my business how much anyone else tips or why they choose to do so. I tip not because I have to but because I choose to. It isn't an obligation it is a choice. How much I tip isn't an obligation, it is a choice. It is never ever ever ever an obligation. When you are pre-charged a tip it is not gratuity, it is a fee that is labeled as gratuity. Mandated gratuity is as nonsensical as mandatory volunteering.

If anyone wants to tip 100% every time they go out they should do so. If anyone wants to tip 0% every time they go out they should do so. If someone wants to decrease the amount of their gratuity because they don't like the style of plates the food is on or increase the amount of their gratuity because they love the color the walls are painted they should do so. I don't care, it's your choice and none of my business.

I am not on here telling anyone else they should lessen their tip because the 80 year old in their party is carded because it isn't my place to do so. If you want to triple the server's tip because they carded grandma you should be free to do so because it is your choice.

Every time the topic of tipping comes up people feel they should tell anyone else how much to tip or why they should increase or decrease the tip. Don't. I don't tell others how to do it so don't tell me. Anyone is free to disagree with me, we are all entitled to our opinions. Just because our opinions are different, however, doesn't make me wrong and you right. Opinions can't be wrong, they can only be different.

Until gratuity is mandated by law (and the name changed of course) it will be the patron's choice. Full stop.

 

[TheDisneyGirl02]

I don't mind being carded because I know that person is only doing his/her job. I work retail and if a credit card is not signed and the person can't produce ID, we can't use that credit card. I didn't make up the rule but it's my job to follow it. I can't tell you how many times I've been yelled at because of it, but I'm not risking losing my job because that person didn't bring his/her ID into the mall. The store may lose a little money, but it happens. If we used a stolen card, imagine the flack we would receive then.

Rules are rules and even if I don't like it, I have to follow it if I want that product or service. It's just the way it is...

 

[cheermom1]

I don't mind being carded because I know that person is only doing his/her job. I work retail and if a credit card is not signed and the person can't produce ID, we can't use that credit card. I didn't make up the rule but it's my job to follow it. I can't tell you how many times I've been yelled at because of it, but I'm not risking losing my job because that person didn't bring his/her ID into the mall. The store may lose a little money, but it happens. If we used a stolen card, imagine the flack we would receive then.

Rules are rules and even if I don't like it, I have to follow it if I want that product or service. It's just the way it is...

I totally agree, we all know we have to be carded to buy alcohol so why get mad? Or better yet DO NOT go there!!! geez how hard is that???

 

[powellrj]

I totally agree, we all know we have to be carded to buy alcohol so why get mad? Or better yet DO NOT go there!!! geez how hard is that???

OP here, just thought I would pop back in and repost why I was mad about being carded. It wasn't the fact I was carded, it was because I was carded and my DH wasn't. When I asked the server why I was carded, she said it was because she was told older people are flattered when they are carded. This was discussed several pages ago......

OK, back to posting why I was so wrong about being mad!!

 

[powellrj]

I forgot to add that tips are split at this resturant, so while I didn't leave a wonderful tip, I did leave almost $6 on a $25 check. That is what I would normally leave, so the remark didn't affect one way or another.

I am off to get my tooth crowned, I get to be a queen for the day with my new crown!!

 

[powellrj]

Before I get out of the house this am, I am going to have a whole page of updates!!

I forgot to add that my DDIL added some low lights to my hair last night and while I still don't look anywhere close to 21, it did shave a few years off this ol'lady!!

Maybe I need to wear my ID on a lanyard next time I can wear my AARP card on one side for those times and my ID on the other!!

Yes, I AM JOKING about the lanyard

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

OP here, just thought I would pop back in and repost why I was mad about being carded. It wasn't the fact I was carded, it was because I was carded and my DH wasn't. When I asked the server why I was carded, she said it was because she was told older people are flattered when they are carded. This was discussed several pages ago......

OK, back to posting why I was so wrong about being mad!!

I believe the thread has migrated to the philosophy of "carding everyone" in general. I can't speak for others--but for me, what happened to you wasn't right. But the past couple of pages have been a reflection on the "card everyone" practice and not your particular isolated incident.

 

[goofyernmost]

I believe the thread has migrated to the philosophy of "carding everyone" in general. I can't speak for others--but for me, what happened to you wasn't right. But the past couple of pages have been a reflection on the "card everyone" practice and not your particular isolated incident.

Yea...what she said.

 

[FayeW]

I forgot to add that tips are split at this resturant, so while I didn't leave a wonderful tip, I did leave almost $6 on a $25 check. That is what I would normally leave, so the remark didn't affect one way or another.

I am off to get my tooth crowned, I get to be a queen for the day with my new crown!!

$6 on a $25 bill seems pretty wonderful to me...it's 24%!!!