A different perspective on D23

[black562]

I would agree with that....must be to have taken away the Adv. Club too...still recovering from that decision.

And that's the ticket right there...re-open Adventurer's Club as Club 23 and people would pay $75 bucks to join in a heartbeat.

Hey, its just a thought...a guy can dream can't he?

 

[Matt@WDWR]

I still maintain that I think that they thought they were doing something good that people would like and did not intend to mock people or anything of the such. Even if its not what people were expecting it isn't "bad". I understand the disappointment towards the lack of support of loyal fans but I think it is being misdirected towards something that isn't even that big of a deal. (But I would by no means be adverse if they improve it either...such as a private club area in the parks for members etc...)

Again I state that I almost always agree with this podcast and its views and understand being disappointed as a loyal fan...I just don't know if I can focus on something that they tried to do right (but obviously failed) as the heart of what's wrong with their relationship with the loyal fans. I think there are much better examples.

I would agree with that....must be to have taken away the Adv. Club too...still recovering from that decision. If this conversation was going on with that topic I would be STRONGLY on the other side ha....they took something away that was obviously loved by loyal Disney people...that really gets to me. The reason this just doesn't get to me if because they weren't actively doing anything bad to fans...they just didn't quite hit their mark on the nose.

Disney could get almost all goodwill back by re-opening Adventurers club. GOD, I MISS IT!

 

[GIR-Prototype]

As for giving money back by offering the dining plan....well....the dining plan keeps people on Disney property and not spending money elsewhere, so again, I'm sorry but I dont view it the same way you do.

I'm going to have to disagree with you here.

I can pay $40 a day, and eat *over* $150 in food per day.
Imagine how much money and Disney time a person or family would lose by leaving to go back to their car in the parking lot, driving off property, possibly paying for additional parking, and having the gas expenditure of driving too and from Disney property.

Yeah sure it is still profitable to Disney, otherwise they would not offer it, but it can really go a long way towards not just saving money on a Disney vacation, but giving you more time to experience the magic of Disney.

I think the potential of saving $115+ on food, gas money, and giving you more Disney time is most definitely, "giving back."

On a nine day stay at WDW last year, my best friend and I used the free dining plan promotion, and through careful planning and forethought, ate enough food based on menu price to EXCEED the cost of our hotel and park admissions.

All it takes is planning and thoughtfulness, and you don't even need a loyalty program to get a good deal.

 

[cchev]

Disney could get almost all goodwill back by re-opening Adventurers club. GOD, I MISS IT!

See! We do agree on things ha. I still sing the Mailman song for my friends every once in a while...then they make fun of me. It's a vicious circle

 

[Matt@WDWR]

My wife and I spent our entire honeymoon at the Adventurer's Club (well..minus an hour dancing at 80s night at 8 tracks, and uh, 3 hours hours, uh, elsewhere. HAHAHAHAHAHAA).

I am glad we have reached an agreement though.

 

[black562]

See! We do agree on things ha. I still sing the Mailman song for my friends every once in a while...then they make fun of me. It's a vicious circle

Sorry, it had to be done.

 

[cchev]

Free Drink Colonel!!!

 

[Matt@WDWR]

Honeestly, I cannot even believe sometimes that they closed it. God it was amazing. Curse you DTD!

 

[black562]

Free Drink Colonel!!!

GIN AND TONIC....I SAID GIN......AND TONIC!!!!!!

 

[cchev]

Yeah if you were there on the last couple nights I probably even saw you guys there lol...there were soooo many tears. I still have problems sometimes watching old video. I guess it's my emotional achilles..... (figures my emotional attachment is to some type of bar...)

 

[Matt@WDWR]

Supporting the Adventurer's Club closing is equivalent to kicking a baby in my eyes!

 

[black562]

Yeah if you were there on the last couple nights I probably even saw you guys there lol...there were soooo many tears. I still have problems sometimes watching old video. I guess it's my emotional achilles..... (figures my emotional attachment is to some type of bar...)

You do know the club is still intact and still having parties from time to time. They're still doing shows and dinners there from time to time and even opened it one night when the marathon was going on.

Kinda makes you wonder, why would Disney leave this club alone while tearing everything out of the other ones....hmmmm.

 

[cchev]

You do know the club is still intact and still having parties from time to time. They're still doing shows and dinners there from time to time and even opened it one night when the marathon was going on.

Kinda makes you wonder, why would Disney leave this club alone while tearing everything out of the other ones....hmmmm.

Private ownership interested in continuing the club? hmmm...?

 

[DisneyKevin]

I'm going to have to disagree with you here.

I can pay $40 a day, and eat *over* $150 in food per day.
Imagine how much money and Disney time a person or family would lose by leaving to go back to their car in the parking lot, driving off property, possibly paying for additional parking, and having the gas expenditure of driving too and from Disney property.

Yeah sure it is still profitable to Disney, otherwise they would not offer it, but it can really go a long way towards not just saving money on a Disney vacation, but giving you more time to experience the magic of Disney.

I think the potential of saving $115+ on food, gas money, and giving you more Disney time is most definitely, "giving back."

On a nine day stay at WDW last year, my best friend and I used the free dining plan promotion, and through careful planning and forethought, ate enough food based on menu price to EXCEED the cost of our hotel and park admissions.

All it takes is planning and thoughtfulness, and you don't even need a loyalty program to get a good deal.

Have we converted you to being a DISer?

 

[GIR-Prototype]

I also dont think anyone has accused Disney of screwing over fans. Disney still offers a very fine product....in fact, I think they are better at what they do well than anyone else in the world.

Sadly some people have. Including ranting and yelling about how bad it is in their podcasts. I've also sadly seen people who are into Disney enough to join the DISboards and post, say that's it, they're done with Disney because of D23.

It really saddens me the amount of anger displayed over something like this; it is like any other product, if you do not want it you put it back on the shelf. A reasonable person does not stand there in the store, hold it up high, and tell everybody how horrible it is.

Have we converted you to being a DISer?

In the sense of my enthusiasm about Disney, and my learning curve about how to get the most out of every second spent in the World...I suppose the answer is yes.

 

[DisneyKevin]

Sadly some people have. Including ranting and yelling about how bad it is in their podcasts. I've also sadly seen people who are into Disney enough to join the DISboards and post, say that's it, they're done with Disney because of D23.

It really saddens me the amount of anger displayed over something like this; it is like any other product, if you do not want it you put it back on the shelf. A reasonable person does not stand there in the store, hold it up high, and tell everybody how horrible it is.



In the sense of my enthusiasm about Disney, and my learning curve about how to get the most out of every second spent in the World...I suppose the answer is yes.

And podcast listener too.

 

[SunnieRN]

I honestly have never seen disney as a company which rewards loyalty. There is not any area within the whole of disney that even acts as if it is necessary, inless you count disney movie rewards which is not anything all that great imho. That being said, I can't even count how many times I have been to disneyland and I now own DVC at disney world.
The closest moment that I have seen to disney "getting it" was on July 17, 2005. I was one of the crazed fans who spent the night in Disney CA to be one of the first groups to get into disneyland that morning.
When entering the park, the cm's were lining main street, waving and saying "welcome home"! I think there were just as many cm's as guests who were bawling like babies. That day I feet like disney got it right!
I joined d23, not because I was overly excited by the club offerings, but because the magazine is nice, great quality photos and I am hoping it evolves and becomes more. I also booked Ho Jo's for the conference as I really want to see some of the keynote guests and I am ready to bring my grandsons for their first visit there.
I may never re-join after this year, as I can go to the website, buy the magazine and attend conferences anyway, but I hope disney in some way blows my socks off. One can hope!
As for a private club for d23 members, I would be all for that but honestly don't see that ever happening. Would certainly be nice though.
That is the one thing that does bother me though. What is the real benefit as everything is available to non members except merchandise?

 

[kpadalik]

You do know the club is still intact and still having parties from time to time. They're still doing shows and dinners there from time to time and even opened it one night when the marathon was going on.

Kinda makes you wonder, why would Disney leave this club alone while tearing everything out of the other ones....hmmmm.

I heard that Lou Mongello is planning a big exclusive party in September at the Adventurer's Club.

 

[cchev]

I heard the same thing. I don't think I can take anymore time off from the hospital after this trip, but we will see. Hopefully

 

[GIR-Prototype]

I also dont think anyone has accused Disney of screwing over fans. Disney still offers a very fine product....in fact, I think they are better at what they do well than anyone else in the world.

And podcast listener too.

I can't resist pointing out the incongruency of these two statements.
I mention podcasts, and you know immediately one of them that has said bad things. But you also claim something else...

Which is it?