A bad situation occurred at MGM...

[Figment*Fan]

People that get annoyed with little children so easily should find somewhere else to vacation, because WDW is crawling with them!! And yes, people should "control" their children better sometimes, but who wants to constantly disipline their child on vacation?? My little guy got away with lots on our last trip...that's just the nature of a Disney vacation so everyone has fun. !".

Wow, I have to disagree. Being on vacation is not a vacation from parenting, nor is it a vacation from common courtesy.

Who wants to constantly discipline their kids while on vacation? I bet no one, LOL, but that does not mean that the kids should not be corrected when they do something wrong, IMO

 

[kinntj]

People that get annoyed with little children so easily should find somewhere else to vacation, because WDW is crawling with them!! And yes, people should "control" their children better sometimes, but who wants to constantly disipline their child on vacation?? My little guy got away with lots on our last trip...that's just the nature of a Disney vacation so everyone has fun. You know what? I put up with a few rude teenagers on this past trip too, and I just shrugged it off "kids will be kids!".

Huh? Well, my reply to that is, since anyone can be at WDW, then we as parents need to control our children. PERIOD. You're saying because you want to let your guard down on vacation that you're willing to let others be disturbed by your little "angels". "Oh, Jr. we're on vacation, it's o.k. to do that." If you don't want to discipline your child while on vacation, then maybe it's you that needs to stay home so others can enjoy their vacation.

I do agree that the teens tend to run amuck and shame on the parents who allow this behavior, but don't you think you're setting your children up to possibly behave the same way in the future by letting your guard down? "Mom won't punish us, she's on vacation" mentality that kids pick up on.

I'm not a perfect parent by any stretch and have made parenting mistakes myself. I do tend to up my discipline while on the plane, at the airport, at the parks where others are involved for the safety of my child and others around them.

Yours is the only post that touched a nerve. The "my children's happiness is above your comfort", so deal with it attitude that parents in todays world tend to have.

 

[myprincessgirlisa]

WOW

with all these posts....it makes me scared to accidentally bump into someone, spill something, cough or sneeze, or anything that might upset or annoy someone....my point is, you could be looking at someone while in line& they might not like it & try & start something.....why???

Do we all need to "walk on egg shells" around everyone everywhere??

Kids that do things intentionally,like throwing legos, need to be disciplined & apologize........but "accidents" should be treated like an accident & someone should just give a friendly "im sorry" & talk to the kid right there on why that person was upset & make it an example.

To many people in this day & age explode(just look at road rage)......everyone needs to remember the "count to 10" rule & calm down.

Stop & think before you blow up...is it really necessary

 

[Briar_Rose]

It annoys me to no end that on a Disney Family message board people are always assuming that the child in question must be ill-behaved and the parents must be negligent. Even when posters caveat the statement most of their post is devoted to explaining how the parents must be spoling their child and letting them run amok, because they are recollecting bad experiences they have had with children. I have experienced children misbehaving and parents ignoring it in public, but I have also experienced many cases of adults being rude and offensive. Why do people have to jump to conclusions and make snide comments about children, not to mention dreding up stories of children misbehaving for comparison that are far worse than the OP? Why do people autmactically assume that for the guy to get that angry, Jr. must have been spraying him repeatedly. Kids shouldn't be spraying others, but it seems from her post that the child was not purposely spraying anyone. When the parents realized that the child could accidently spray someone, they took it from him. Unfortunately parents do not actually have eyes in the back of our heads and if we look at them constantly we will trip and fall. You would be amazed at what they can do in the brief time when we look away. No matter how vigilant of a parent you are, sometimes accidents happen. If the kid actually ruined the guys camera that may warrant an immediate angry response, but since he didn't mention it in his brief tirade, I doubt that was the case. Given the particular case at hand I would hope that one would have a warning puff of smoke before Mt. Vesuvias erupts. If someone stood up towering over me in a seated position and yelled at the top of his lungs without any warning, I doubt I would be in a very apologetic mood, unless of course my child had caused damage to person or property, endangered someone or said something offensive to them (ie not a minor offense). Obviously this is a one-sided account and we don't have eye witness reports, but I for one do not assume the worst of posters on a message board of this sort.

 

[Steph9072]

What a jerk. His poor dd must have been mortified. Pat you dh on the back he handled the situation better than most.

 

[kaysmommie]

Wow, I will admit when I saw the title of the thread, I thought someone was really injured or something. Yes, the man over-reacted (based on what I read) I agree, but we don't know what else may have happened. I am NOT saying the OP or her child did anything wrong, but spray fans in a tight spot -- I can see several people getting wet.

I also agree that "calm down it was an accident" may have been better worded as Sorry, it was an accident.

Just last month, we were at DTD, leaving the Lego Store. As we were walking by the area where kids play, some kid THREW a Lego creation at DS, hitting him in the back of the head! The kid's mom just laughed!!! No "Sorry", NOTHING other than her finding it amusing. DS was in shock as was I! I stopped, made sure ds was okay (those things can HURT!), and told the mom, "That could have really hurt my son! " Her reply. Brace yourself: "My son didn't do anything wrong, it was an accident!" Ummmm, really, you accidentally climb on things and toss lego creations at other people passing by? I don't think so. The kicker --- the mom continues VIDEOTAPING the child in his Lego tossing frenzy. Some people have no respect for others, and let their kids do whatever they please.

I am not saying the OP and her DH were letting their ds spray the guy intentionally, BUT, accident or not, I think the parents should have apologized. I know that both my son and I would have felt better if the mother of the child who beaned ds in the head apologized -- I can say from personal experience, when someone is hurt, "calm down, it was an accident" doesn't cut it. YES, I feel the man over-reacted, but I think he did deserve an apology regardless of how he reacted.

Sorry about your Ds getting hit! That is lady must be a piece of trash and she isn't even teaching her child any manners. She should have apologized as your DS could have been hurt. A little spritz of water never urt anyone though I would have immediately apologized. But not if he started screaming at me and my child in front of people.

 

[kanga24roos]

I personally do not think that someone standing up and screaming is looking for an apology they are looking to intimidate. By being that confrontational you take away any opportunity for a genuine apology. I know all i would have been able to muster was a sarcastic "Sorry it's only water jeeez lighten up psycho "which probably would have made it worse. SO kudos to your huz.

 

[tony609]

We are also overlooking something here. They guy was most likely annoyed by the mister, not hurt. The OP was wrong for not apologizing. BUT odds are the man wasn't yelling because of the fan. Something else or multiple something elses had probably all accumulated and it just came out at that moment. I work in a high guest service enviroment and get the brunt of the days things all the time. Its not about me enforcing policy its usually the 10 other things that happened prior to that in the last few hours. It was bad that he yelled at child-yes if thats who he was yelling at OP wasn't sure??? But the child shouldn't have had it in a close 'show like' atmosphere in the first place, and the family should have said "sorry about that" or something.

 

[sadeeyore]

Honestly, my husband said that if the kids weren't there with us, he would've punched the guy in his face.

The guy should not have shouted or been so angry towards your DS or you like that. I also feel your husband was probably a little too angry as well, saying he would have punched the guy if your own kids weren't with you, - others had kids there.
Although if a child has a water mister in such a crowded area for three minutes someone close by probably did get misted.

I know I've seen kids aiming the water misters at people passing them, I certainly would never shout at anyone but I know if my DS10 (with special needs) was misted with one he would be upset. I don't mean the OP but I think others need to perhaps remind their kids not to be aiming misters at someone unless they have said it was ok.

 

[Princess Stitch]

Clearly I'm the only one who's seen a kid spit into one of those misters ... sometimes it's not "just" water :

I'd like to say BRAVO! to those parents who realize that they need to have their kids under control while at Disney, or anywhere. I'm pretty tolerable of kids, but usually when I ask them to stop kicking me etc. all I get is a nasty stare from the parents. I have had the few apologetic parents, which I thoroughly appreciate, but I've learned not to expect any sort of polite response from either the parents or the kids.

In response to the OP's problem. I find both parties tend to exaggerate things. OP said the kid was onlly spraying for 3 minutes, to the guy getting sprayed it probably felt like 30, it was probably more like 10. The OP also stated they didn't know the kid was spraying the bottle.. that's probably part of the problem. I know it's impossible to watch your kids 100% of the time, but you should have a good idea what they're up to, expecially when they're sitting right beside you! For all you know the kid was spraying water into his hand and flinging it at the guy in front of him..

On the other side, yelling is never the answer. Whether it was directed to the child or the adult, no one should have to resort to screaming as a first defense. I would like to ask parents to please be understanding when someone mentions your kid's bad behaviour. I get more nasty stares and rude comments ("he/she is just a kid!", "it's not a big deal" etc) then apologies, and most of the time NOTHING is said to the kid at all!

And for the parent who said that vacation is not the time to be disciplining your child, well I hope I'm never anywhere near you on vacation! Kids should not be allowed to ruin another person's vacation either. Just because they're kids doesn't mean everyone thinks their antics are "cute".

 

[JMLBrats]

Clearly I'm the only one who's seen a kid spit into one of those misters ... sometimes it's not "just" water :

I'd like to say BRAVO! to those parents who realize that they need to have their kids under control while at Disney, or anywhere. I'm pretty tolerable of kids, but usually when I ask them to stop kicking me etc. all I get is a nasty stare from the parents. I have had the few apologetic parents, which I thoroughly appreciate, but I've learned not to expect any sort of polite response from either the parents or the kids.

In response to the OP's problem. I find both parties tend to exaggerate things. OP said the kid was onlly spraying for 3 minutes, to the guy getting sprayed it probably felt like 30, it was probably more like 10. The OP also stated they didn't know the kid was spraying the bottle.. that's probably part of the problem. I know it's impossible to watch your kids 100% of the time, but you should have a good idea what they're up to, expecially when they're sitting right beside you! For all you know the kid was spraying water into his hand and flinging it at the guy in front of him..

On the other side, yelling is never the answer. Whether it was directed to the child or the adult, no one should have to resort to screaming as a first defense. I would like to ask parents to please be understanding when someone mentions your kid's bad behaviour. I get more nasty stares and rude comments ("he/she is just a kid!", "it's not a big deal" etc) then apologies, and most of the time NOTHING is said to the kid at all!

And for the parent who said that vacation is not the time to be disciplining your child, well I hope I'm never anywhere near you on vacation! Kids should not be allowed to ruin another person's vacation either. Just because they're kids doesn't mean everyone thinks their antics are "cute".

Well said, totally agree. We also have 3 kids and we never allow them to act rudely or misbehave in a manner that disrupts other people in public. I think it's dispicable and completely irresponsible as parents to allow that kind of behavior. DH and I feel that's one of the most horrible things going on w/our society right now-these parents that totally excuse disgusting behavior in their children. I'm not saying that's the case with the OP-but to a certain extent...It's kind of like the other poster that talked about the Lego incident. "what the heck is that!" And the truth is, there are lots of parents like that around. I know one mom that has a 2 yr old that goes around biting other children and what does she do about it? Absolutely nothing aside from "warning" people that he bites for no apparent reason sometimes. Okay, how about giving him time out when he does it so maybe he'll realize it's bad and not okay to bite others??? I also have a 2 yr old and believe me, she knows the difference between right and wrong behavior even at her age and I can tell you that she'd never be allowed to go around doing that! and we're not by any means serious or scrict parents in fact my kids act like wild animals at home a lot- It's not easy to raise kids properly, but I think it's what you sign up for when you become a parent.....

 

[mommytomy3]

I understand both sides, having a 3 year old that I was constantly reprimanding about his fan!.. but I do think the man may have overreacted a bit.. he didnt have to stand up and yell. but who knows maybe he could have been having a bad day, I dont know. maybe he was the same grouch, that when my 9 year old dd was sitting at a table in MK at Pinocchio Village Haus, while DH came to help me(I had ordered and was waiting) he came to help me while she sat at the table, a man carrying his food tried to sit down, and my dd said she told him, "My family is sitting here" and he told her "well, we've been waiting for a long time" and she said "So have we", and my DH had kept looking over at her and saw this, so he went over and said to the man "this is our table" and the guy huffed and puffed, but left, and then my dd said, Daddy, when he just left he said " jack-off" now that is RUDE! first of all, everyone has a hard time finding tables, it takes time, we had to look a bit for ours too, and then to try and steal one from a 9 year old?, then to call her father name like that? what a real jerk.. he eventually ended up sitting not too far from us with his wife and 3 dds, but did not once even look up in our direction

 

[disneyjunkie]

I understand both sides, having a 3 year old that I was constantly reprimanding about his fan!.. but I do think the man may have overreacted a bit.. he didnt have to stand up and yell. but who knows maybe he could have been having a bad day, I dont know. maybe he was the same grouch, that when my 9 year old dd was sitting at a table in MK at Pinocchio Village Haus, while DH came to help me(I had ordered and was waiting) he came to help me while she sat at the table, a man carrying his food tried to sit down, and my dd said she told him, "My family is sitting here" and he told her "well, we've been waiting for a long time" and she said "So have we", and my DH had kept looking over at her and saw this, so he went over and said to the man "this is our table" and the guy huffed and puffed, but left, and then my dd said, Daddy, when he just left he said " jack-off" now that is RUDE! first of all, everyone has a hard time finding tables, it takes time, we had to look a bit for ours too, and then to try and steal one from a 9 year old?, then to call her father name like that? what a real jerk.. he eventually ended up sitting not too far from us with his wife and 3 dds, but did not once even look up in our direction

There are many people on the DIS who think it's rude to hold a table.

They believe you shouldn't grab a table until you've received your food. They feel it's unfair to those who have received their food and can't find a table because other families are holding them.

I never heard this until I starting posting on the DIS. I always send my son to find a table while I grab the food. Since I have a small family(just son and I) I don't mind sharing our table with others.

 

[momtoBrandon&Jacob]

There are many people on the DIS who think it's rude to hold a table.

They believe you shouldn't grab a table until you've received your food. They feel it's unfair to those who have received their food and can't find a table because other families are holding them.

I never heard this until I starting posting on the DIS. I always send my son to find a table while I grab the food. Since I have a small family(just son and I) I don't mind sharing our table with others.

That is strange. I don't see why a family of 4 should all have to wait in line for food - especially with 2 little kids. My husband usually stands in line and me and the boys get a table. I guess if anyone has a problem with that, they can write us a ticket!

 

[Princess Stitch]

That is strange. I don't see why a family of 4 should all have to wait in line for food - especially with 2 little kids. My husband usually stands in line and me and the boys get a table. I guess if anyone has a problem with that, they can write us a ticket!

Well .. I kinda understand.. but it depends on the situation. Lets say there's a LONG line.. I'm talking 1/2 hour wait for food. Me and DBF just get our food and are looking for a table. There's a family that's near the back of the line who has someone "saving" a table for them. That table stays "saved" for 30 minutes while mom or dad gets the food to bring over. Me and DBF could have sat there and finished our meals in 15-20 minutes, still leaving lots of time for mom or dad to get back with food and have the table for their family. If it's only a 5-10 minute wait for food, not a huge deal to save a table and I completely understand. I hope you see the other side of the story too.

There's something way worse than saving a table though.... when people have finished eating and decide to linger forever while others are looking for a seat..

 

[laughinplace199]

Honestly, my husband said that if the kids weren't there with us, he would've punched the guy in his face.

Huh?

I'm not saying the guy was justified in yelling at you, but you think it would be ok for other people's kids to witness your DH punching someone, just as long as your kids aren't there?

 

[Whosemom]

OK, not that this is what happened, but imagine with me another post here on dis....

I went to see the stunt show at MGM and this crazy family sat behind me. Their preschooler had a mister, can you believe it? Well, the kid sits there spraying people for like forever, and the dad and mom take turns hollaring at the kid, but neither one actually does anything. And the kid is laughing back at them but keeps spraying. I swear, the dad kept saying "stop it jr" getting more and more irate, and the kid is like running back and forth in the row with this thing. Its like they are on the same level bickering. Meanwhile in my row we're all getting sprayed and bumped in the back. The dad finally snatches the kid and slams down the bottle hard enough that it breaks and splashes people. I finally had enough and turned around and told the dad in no uncertain terms to knock it off. He could tell I meant business, too, so he hollared something rude at me. But I kept my cool and let it ride, I"d said what needed said.​

And then we get three pages of "atta boys" here on the dis for him putting the rude family in their place.

OP, I am totally NOT saying that's what happened. I'm just making the point that there are two sides to every story, and the guy, red faced as he may have been, seems to have made one comment. Which in my book is not the raving tirade its getting turned into.

 

[pamom65]

Sorry, but I also would have to side with the guy who was getting misted. We were in Disney a month ago and had a great time. We have 4 kids and I don't let them get away with any ignorant behavior, especially in crowded areas. Unfortunately many parents are oblivious to the fact that their kids kicking the seat in front of them is annoying and ruins that person's good time, which they also paid for. It only takes a few words to get them to stop and if they are told often enough they do start to remember on their own. When we were in Sea World, we arrived at one of the stadiums early and got great seats right in the front. Great, that is, until a mother with child who was about one year old sat right behind me. The kid was wearing those plastic clogs and was sitting on her mom's lap, kicking me repeatedly in the back. I turned around a few times and just acted like I didn't know what was hitting me, figuring she would eventually get the hint. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't the kid's fault, but how can a mother sit there letting her kid kick someone several times and not even notice?? It is a shame that people don't use basic manners anymore, and being at Disney is no excuse.

 

[MomtoEmIs&Ow]

I don't think so. We had absolutely nothing to apologize for since I have absolutely no idea why he yelled at us. The best guess that I could come up with is that when my husband dropped the bottle, some water squirted on the guy but who knows...

As a side note, I would never apologize to a nutcase that stands up raging with anger without explanation. Had he stayed in his seat, turned around, and spoken to us like a human being, it would've been a different story.

I wouldn't have apologized either! I would be too peed off that a total stranger thought that they had the right to scream @ my child!

 

[Hannathy]

I wouldn't have apologized either! I would be too peed off that a total stranger thought that they had the right to scream @ my child!

But not bothered by the fact that your child (also a total stranger to the man) thought they had the right to squirt a total stranger!