6/13/2009 Western on Magic

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Just left infectious disease doc. He said as of right now Maddy can go. If things get worse though he may change his mind. As for Tamiflu he said it is too early to tell. By June he said it may not be effective. He said as it gets closer and the CDC still says it is effective he will give it to her.

So for now we are still cruising!
 
I am new to the board. We will be on this cruise. How do I get on the awesome "official" June 13-20 cruise Roll Call website?

David, Anna
Eric (7)
Ava (5)

This is my 3rd Disney Cruise. Love it !!! We are looking forward to being on it for 7 nights this time!!!!

Would love to talk to anyone who has a girl/boy my kids age so they can "know" someone before going into the Kids Club.

:welcome:
 
Just left infectious disease doc. He said as of right now Maddy can go. If things get worse though he may change his mind. As for Tamiflu he said it is too early to tell. By June he said it may not be effective. He said as it gets closer and the CDC still says it is effective he will give it to her.

So for now we are still cruising!

:banana::banana::banana: I'm glad you can still go!!! Hopefully nothing will change.:goodvibes
 
Just left infectious disease doc. He said as of right now Maddy can go. If things get worse though he may change his mind. As for Tamiflu he said it is too early to tell. By June he said it may not be effective. He said as it gets closer and the CDC still says it is effective he will give it to her.

So for now we are still cruising!

:banana::banana::banana::banana: :cool1::cool1::cool1::cool1:

:dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3: :cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

party:party:party:party: :jumping1::jumping1::jumping1::jumping1:
 

just left infectious disease doc. He said as of right now maddy can go. If things get worse though he may change his mind. As for tamiflu he said it is too early to tell. By june he said it may not be effective. He said as it gets closer and the cdc still says it is effective he will give it to her.

So for now we are still cruising!
YEAH!!!!! I will keep my fingers crossed!!!!
 
Jayde had her ultrasound but no results for 3 business days.... so we just wait & see. If she needs surgery, I really want it done ASAP. She had another symptom yesterday.
 
I am glad that Maddy can still go and I hope that Jayde is better soon!!

You know, those of us with a Cat. 12 may be sleeping the lifeboats. LOL.
 
I am new to the board. We will be on this cruise. How do I get on the awesome "official" June 13-20 cruise Roll Call website?

David, Anna
Eric (7)
Ava (5)

This is my 3rd Disney Cruise. Love it !!! We are looking forward to being on it for 7 nights this time!!!!

Would love to talk to anyone who has a girl/boy my kids age so they can "know" someone before going into the Kids Club.
Welcome!!! :cool1: My BBG triplets are 8 (turn 9 2 days after the cruise). There are a lot of kids sailing.

Just left infectious disease doc. He said as of right now Maddy can go. If things get worse though he may change his mind. As for Tamiflu he said it is too early to tell. By June he said it may not be effective. He said as it gets closer and the CDC still says it is effective he will give it to her.

So for now we are still cruising!
:cool1::cool1::dance3::dance3::cheer2::cheer2: I'm so glad you will be coming! I'm only thinking positively!!! :woohoo:

And Hooray for Dr. Doom lightening up!!! ;)
 
Oh and I just called dolphin discovery and they honored the price I had already paid for Cozumel and switched it to Grand Cayman for us! Yipee! So be sure not to just cancel, call and change it if you can.
Sounds like a good option for us. They have a 1pm swim after our Pirate Cruise.
 
The uncertainty of it all is a problem. If you have to cancel will you just transfer to another date? Do you lose any money?

I think people would feel safer if they cancelled the Mexico stops.

So for those in states with confirmed cases-are they very concerned about it being contagious? Are schools closed?
 
The uncertainty of it all is a problem. If you have to cancel will you just transfer to another date? Do you lose any money?

I think people would feel safer if they cancelled the Mexico stops.

So for those in states with confirmed cases-are they very concerned about it being contagious? Are schools closed?

CNN reported that 100 schools nationwide are already closed. Just like any influenza, it is contagious. The WHO raised the cat to 5, meaning a pandemic is iminent. So the scope of the flu is great, but at this point in the US, the severity is not. That could change with time. Its a wait and see. But it definitely is very contagious.
 
Just left infectious disease doc. He said as of right now Maddy can go. If things get worse though he may change his mind. As for Tamiflu he said it is too early to tell. By June he said it may not be effective. He said as it gets closer and the CDC still says it is effective he will give it to her.

So for now we are still cruising!

Yeah! I'm sooo glad you can still go! :)
 
When is your Dr. recommending that you get this? Does it matter if we had a Flu shot in the fall? Do we need another?


It is a bit different for our son Lance and that is because he has an immune deficiency that makes everything a bit worse on him. He has to get boosters more often then a typical child because his body does not hold the protection. He also is hit hard anytime he is exposed to typical colds and viruses. My two other children can catch a 24hr bug but Lance can struggle with the same bug for 5-10days. He is followed by Immunology at UNC and of course we are super funny about germs so he is very good about hand washing and etc... He is given antibiotics and in this case it would be antivirals when my other children are sick as a precaution.
 
The uncertainty of it all is a problem. If you have to cancel will you just transfer to another date? Do you lose any money?

I think people would feel safer if they cancelled the Mexico stops.

So for those in states with confirmed cases-are they very concerned about it being contagious? Are schools closed?

Honestly, this does not concern me at all. I work in the medical field so realize that you can get anything from anyone at any time. As far as I know, Michigan has 2 confirmed cases. I will be on this cruise no matter where it goes. I am taking a vacation, a long relaxing vacation.

I hope this does not deter people from going (unless health/immunity issues are a concern). Looking forward to all that will be joining us!!!
 
Honestly, this does not concern me at all. I work in the medical field so realize that you can get anything from anyone at any time. As far as I know, Michigan has 2 confirmed cases. I will be on this cruise no matter where it goes. I am taking a vacation, a long relaxing vacation.

I hope this does not deter people from going (unless health/immunity issues are a concern). Looking forward to all that will be joining us!!!

Coming from Public Health.... I hear ya! In this field you learn to be cautious and I totally agree.... We will be vacationing!!!!:cool1::cool1::cool1::cool1:
 
We should be darn safe on our cruise with all the medical people just on our thread. Now y'all have me really curious. What does everyone do? I have my BSN/MSN and am a NICU nurse. Your turn!
 
We should be darn safe on our cruise with all the medical people just on our thread. Now y'all have me really curious. What does everyone do? I have my BSN/MSN and am a NICU nurse. Your turn!
I am an Administrative Assistant at CitiMortgage (Default Management Division) to 1 VP, 20 Managers, and 900 and growing staff. Yes we are very very busy. We do the Loss Mitigation (Loan Mods), Foreclosure & Bankruptcy. Thank goodness I don't personally but that is the department that I am in.

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:sad: I'm STILL :surfweb: looking. I guess I need to have that same dream :cloud9: again tonight and hope for a little :shamrock: luck for a cabin upgrade.

I'm afraid if I don't see my cabin assignment soon that this will be me and my computer :badpc: !!!!!!!!
 
Anyone out there? It's a little boring talking to myself tonight!

Guess I will log off for the night, it's not like anyone is going to miss me :lmao:

I have to log in :surfweb: and check one more time before I go to bed to see if our cabin assignments are there though.
 
I am here and have been talking to other moms because we may or may not have a Zoo trip for our school?? We haven't heard anything offical yet.

I just read this now:

ATLANTA – Mexico's health secretary may have thought he was allaying fears about swine flu when he suggested that the nation's swine flu death rate was 6 or 7 percent. In reality, that would mean a monstrous killer virus — and no experts are close to saying that. The secretary's comment reflects how much remains unknown about the new flu virus — most notably how lethal it is and why it seems so much deadlier in Mexico than anywhere else.

American health officials believe they are getting closer to answering those questions, or, at least, to ruling out wrong-headed theories.

"We've begun to knock off hypotheses," said Dr. Scott F. Dowell, director of global disease detection with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Among the factors disease detectives have discounted are Mexico's air pollution, secondary infections and poor health care. But they still do not know why so many Mexicans have died, although it could be because many more people actually have had the virus than health officials realize.

In Mexico, the virus is suspected of killing more than 150 people and sickening more than 2,400. Recent information suggests swine flu-related hospital admissions and deaths may have peaked and are declining, but no other country has shown any numbers close to those seen in Mexico.

The only other country to report a swine flu death is the United States, and that involved a toddler from Mexico who was visiting Texas with his family.

The leading theory remains that the virus itself is not significantly different in Mexico, but that the outbreak has for some reason just hit harder there, infecting more people overall. The more people who are infected, the more likely there will be severe cases and even deaths.

When the Mexican health secretary spoke this week about a 6 or 7 percent death rate, his figures were based on the number of deaths divided by the number of suspected infections. But authorities cannot be certain how many people have been infected, especially those who suffered only mild symptoms.

Mexican authorities have not tried to count mild cases, focusing instead on the severely ill and the dead. So the death rate may be much lower than 6 or 7 percent — and probably is, according to some experts.

A 6 to 7 percent death rate would make the Mexican swine flu nearly three times deadlier than the worst flu pandemic in the last 100 years — the 1918 Spanish flu, which killed an estimated 20 million to 50 million people worldwide.

That seems unbelievably high for this new virus, said Richard Webby, a flu researcher at St. Jude Children's Research Hospital in Memphis.

Webby and others do not believe the swine flu in Mexico is different from what's been seen in U.S. patients. The virus samples in both countries match.

The CDC sent four epidemiologists and one lab scientist to Mexico over the weekend to investigate the disease there, and the agency expects to send a half-dozen more people this week, said Dowell, of the CDC.

Among the hypotheses being ruled out as explanations for Mexico's higher death rate:

• A second infection complicating the flu cases. A common danger in flu is that the patient is co-infected with pneumonia or other bacteria, which can lead to death. But lab tests of 33 Mexican patients, including seven who died, did not find that problem.

• Low-quality health care. CDC investigators have not seen any obvious problem. They have found capable doctors and well-equipped, high-quality hospitals, Dowell said.

• A medicine is compounding the problem. Investigators have looked into whether patients who got sick had taken some over-the-counter medicine or folk remedy that actually made things worse.

Such a problem has sometimes occurs in children recovering from flu who are given aspirin — a severe illness called Reye's syndrome, which causes vomiting, lethargy and even seizures. But there's no evidence of something like that in Mexico, Dowell said.

• Altitude or air pollution: Mexico City's altitude and its infamous air pollution have raised speculation that those factors may have made people more susceptible to the virus. But severe cases are being reported over much of Mexico, including coastal communities and places with cleaner air, making that theory unlikely.

The CDC has also been investigating when the swine flu first hit Mexico.

Some have wondered whether it's possible people have been getting sick with the virus for months, but the illness went undetected because special swine flu tests were not used to diagnose patients.

But CDC officials say no, the flu probably did not hit Mexico until March at the earliest. An analysis of hundreds of samples from Mexico that were collected from January to March never turned up the swine flu virus, Dowell said.

There's also the question of where it started — a standard inquiry of public health investigations since at least the mid-19th century.

One of the heroes of public health history is John Snow, a London physician who helped end an 1854 cholera outbreak by determining that cases were clustered around a water pump and that the disease was spread through water. The pump handle was removed, and the cholera deaths subsided.

But flu is different because it's spread by human-to-human contact. Scientists know it's more difficult to pin down the origin of a novel strain of influenza to a specific country, let alone a village or pig farm.

Knowledge of the origin is also less useful than in a cholera outbreak.

"Flu, unlike cholera, spreads around the world in a matter of weeks. You can't remove the pump handle" to stop the epidemic, said Dr. Andrew Pavia, a University of Utah pediatrics professor who leads the Infectious Diseases Society of America's pandemic flu task force.

A current theory is that the outbreak started in the town of La Gloria on the eastern coast of Mexico, because a 5-year-old boy was the first known case. He first suffered flu-like symptoms in late March. However, Mexican health officials have downplayed claims the outbreak started in La Gloria, because mucous samples of other patients from there found nothing.

Dowell said the place of origin is a secondary concern at the moment.

"That probably will be useful in the long term. But for the present, our team in the field is focused on things that will make the most difference for mitigation" of the outbreak, he said.

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Associated Press Writer Olga R. Rodriguez in Mexico contributed to this report.
 
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