5/27/06 "Il pochi il fiero i blabbermouths" We *will* sail again Part 13

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From what I hear, the Disney Hawaii resort will be out in the boonies on Oahu. We really want to go to the Big Island, and I hear there are some cheap flights from Oahu. So maybe...

Looking forward to staying at GCV someday!

I love my DVC!

If by the boonies you mean away from the craziness of Waikiki yes it is. The Ko Olina area is beautiful and I would see it as the type of resort you don't need to go places from. Kind of like Vero. We were so busy we didn't get to spend as much time around the resort as we would have liked but with DVC I can see us doing some shopping, cooking a number of our meals (including grilling in the evening) and just relaxing and enjoying the resort. Plus Oahu is an easy jumping point for day trips to the other islands.
 
If by the boonies you mean away from the craziness of Waikiki yes it is. The Ko Olina area is beautiful and I would see it as the type of resort you don't need to go places from. Kind of like Vero. We were so busy we didn't get to spend as much time around the resort as we would have liked but with DVC I can see us doing some shopping, cooking a number of our meals (including grilling in the evening) and just relaxing and enjoying the resort. Plus Oahu is an easy jumping point for day trips to the other islands.


I see your point and I agree. In the case of Hawaii or even some of the homes/resorts we've looked at in the Caribbean...the further away from the hustle and bustle, the better. The sad part is that it won't be long until the "growth" (hustle and bustle) finds the "boonies". KWIM?
 
HAY ALL

WE B outta here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


be staying at all star sports

DIS MEET or just a getting to geather meet

some I have never met others well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????


always time too say HI???????

or maybee your FAMILY will win a 7 day cruise on the WONDER ??????????


RIGHT ALICIA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



okay hoping to see some nice LIVERS OOOOOOPS FACES down there.

TKDLISA , WINDAMEREJUDY and ALL YOU FLORIDIANS


gaRRy


BYE BYE
 
Well, Matt & I ran in Disney's Race for the Taste 10k today. This is my first 10k, so I am happy that I finished. Matt is a good son. He ran his race than came back to run the last 1/4 mile with me. It was fun to cross the finish line with him.

It was fun to see the backstage areas of Disney, but I was surprised how crowded the event was. I thought it would "thin" out after a mile or so, but it was crowded most of the race. It was finally better when were in Epcot because the running area was larger.

Since Matt & I were up at 3:45 to drive to the race, we have spent the afternoon sleeping. Lisa sent us a picture of Jim sleeping in Chicago after his Marathon run. So, I guess it was a lazy afternoons for all of us.
 

Sharon - glad to hear Jim finished and rested this afternoon. From what they are saying on the news here they ended the race early due to the heat. One man died and 250 others had to be taken to the hospital due to the heat. Nasty day here.


Edited to add - congrats to you and Matt on your runs as well.
 
DIS MEET or just a getting to geather meet

some I have never met others well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????


always time too say HI???????

It seems like every time someone is headed down here, its an absolutely crazy week for me!!!!! Wish we could get out there for a DISMeet! Well actually... now that I think about it... my kids games are in Orlando on Saturday... 10 hours of football and cheerleading... unfortunately, no time in there to sneak away. Poop.
 
Well, Matt & I ran in Disney's Race for the Taste 10k today. This is my first 10k, so I am happy that I finished. Matt is a good son. He ran his race than came back to run the last 1/4 mile with me. It was fun to cross the finish line with him.

It was fun to see the backstage areas of Disney, but I was surprised how crowded the event was. I thought it would "thin" out after a mile or so, but it was crowded most of the race. It was finally better when were in Epcot because the running area was larger.

Since Matt & I were up at 3:45 to drive to the race, we have spent the afternoon sleeping. Lisa sent us a picture of Jim sleeping in Chicago after his Marathon run. So, I guess it was a lazy afternoons for all of us.

Big CONGRATS on that!!!

Heck, you deserved the nappy!!
 
Well, Matt & I ran in Disney's Race for the Taste 10k today. This is my first 10k, so I am happy that I finished. Matt is a good son. He ran his race than came back to run the last 1/4 mile with me. It was fun to cross the finish line with him.

It was fun to see the backstage areas of Disney, but I was surprised how crowded the event was. I thought it would "thin" out after a mile or so, but it was crowded most of the race. It was finally better when were in Epcot because the running area was larger.

Since Matt & I were up at 3:45 to drive to the race, we have spent the afternoon sleeping. Lisa sent us a picture of Jim sleeping in Chicago after his Marathon run. So, I guess it was a lazy afternoons for all of us.

SPEEDY FINISHED THE RACE ONE HOUR BEFORE I THOUGHT SHE WOULD SO WE MISSED HER AT THE FINISH LINE - A BIG CONGRATULATIONS ---- YEAH SHARON. Matt, you get congrats as well for your second finish.

Glad to hear Jim is ok, Mary and Mark - was it as bad as they are saying on the news?
 
Wow, congrats Sharon! Very impressive! I hope Jim woke up and took Lisa somewhere interesting.

Don't forget, F&W on the 28th, hope to see you!
 
Jim & co, check this one out:
Runner who dies had heart condition, officals say
Maraton Death not heat-related, medical examiner says


An autopsy found the Michigan police officer who collapsed during the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon died from a heart condition not related to the heat, a spokeswoman for the Cook County medical examiner's office said today.

Chad Schieber, 35, of Midland, died of mitral valve prolapse, a condition where the valve between the chambers doesn't close properly. Schieber collapsed around the 19-mile mark.

Also, marathon officials asserted Monday that they never ran out of water during the race, but said volunteers did have trouble refilling cups fast enough for runners.

The marathon was stopped early because of oven-like temperatures. More than 300 people sought medical treatment for heat-related conditions.

Many runners reported that they found no water on the course and that they had to buy their own or rely on people on the sideline to supply them.

Carey Pinkowski, executive director of the marathon, said runners often took five to seven glasses of water and poured them over themselves to cool down, quickly depleting the supplies.

"That's something I've never seen in the 17 years I've been doing this," he said.

At least 25 people remained hospitalized this morning with heat-related conditions. The race was cut short for the first time in its history due to the excessive temperatures.

Nine of those hospitalized were in serious to critical condition, according to officials from five of the seven Chicago hospitals that treated runners Sunday.

Fire officials said about 315 runners were taken from the course by ambulance. City and suburban ambulances took 146 people to hospitals, most in good condition, and the rest were taken to hospitals or medical aid stations along the route by private ambulances, officials said.

The race was stopped about 3½ hours after the start gun on an abnormally sweltering autumn day, amid complaints of insufficient water for more than 35,000 runners from around the world.

mowen@tribune.com

What a cover up! This city is so focused on getting those damned olympics they're willing to outright lie, I see. There are currently over 125 replies to this article in tribune's forum all from either runners and even some of the volunteers outright saying that many stations were completely out of supplies. Considering the absolutely horrid weather conditions the organizers should have been better prepared with those supplies and other cooling methods in place. There were runners going into convenience stores and people using their own hoses to help cool the runners.
 
Jim & co, check this one out:


What a cover up! This city is so focused on getting those damned olympics they're willing to outright lie, I see. There are currently over 125 replies to this article in tribune's forum all from either runners and even some of the volunteers outright saying that many stations were completely out of supplies. Considering the absolutely horrid weather conditions the organizers should have been better prepared with those supplies and other cooling methods in place. There were runners going into convenience stores and people using their own hoses to help cool the runners.

Interesting article - I remember in the late 1980s the race was at the end of October/early November and more often than not held in sleet and or snow, which brought another whole set of problems to runners. heck, October in Chicago can be extremely warm...(I purposely didn't get married in June, because I wanted it to be cooler - October 14, 1989 the temps were in the mid to upper 80s... Warm Octobers are not new...)

The Chicago Marathon is well known and big draw marathon in the international marathon circuit - the lack of planning and foresight will probably hurt, regardless of official statements...

On the other hand, because organizers of races want to draw more entrants, the rolling closures of the race course are lengthening, making marathons more accessible to walkers, joggers and the weekend athletes. Many people are ill equipped to handle the stress 26 miles (even 13) places on a body. Then add a change in temperatures, if a body isn't used to training in heat and/or humidity (or cold) then the body is even more stressed. Even the most conditioned elite athletes can be in trouble if they haven't trained in similar conditions close to race time...

Not at all shifting the blame on the runner who died - but, the increase in heat related emergencies doesn't surprise me - the poor planning does...(ETA - poor planning of the race organizers...)
 
Jim & co, check this one out:
Runner who dies had heart condition, officals say
Maraton Death not heat-related, medical examiner says

Well, now I know I'll never run a marathon. After all, I may have a heart condition that I don't know about. A marathon might actually kill me!

Sad for this runner and for so many others who had troubles. It's sweltering here.....about 20-25 degrees warmer than it was in California!!
 
Unfortunately, the men's photo finish story will not be remembered in the 2007 Chicago Marathon...
 
Sharon - glad to hear Jim finished and rested this afternoon. From what they are saying on the news here they ended the race early due to the heat. One man died and 250 others had to be taken to the hospital due to the heat. Nasty day here.


Edited to add - congrats to you and Matt on your runs as well.

Lisa and I are home, back to the chilly Florida from HOT Chicago.

We had a great time. Chicago is a fun city, but it sure was a long way and a lot of money to run the Chicago 19.1 mile FUN run.

The specators were great. I loved running through areas of Chicago I never been to before. This was my first Major marathon located in a city. 48,000 runners with a million watchers. It was a blast.

But.....I'm really disappointed in the race organizers. All the stories you may hear about water not being available are true. I didn't get any between mile 2 and 8. I saw people drinking out of public and private fountains.

I'm use to the heat so I slowed down and ran a smart race, but that really did not matter because they basically closed the course down where ever you were at. They may say you were allowed to finish, but not the case. They put busses across the roads. Police were making people walk back.

Once I heard what was going on I ran the last 3 miles in. They were the best three miles of the race because I was pacing myself for the hot weather.

Some day I'll do it again so I can say I ran the Chicago Marathon, but I can't say that today.

We will be back in February and will have another great time. I won't let this ruin my love for Chicago, just the Chicago Marathon.
 
Jim & co, check this one out:


What a cover up! This city is so focused on getting those damned olympics they're willing to outright lie, I see. There are currently over 125 replies to this article in tribune's forum all from either runners and even some of the volunteers outright saying that many stations were completely out of supplies. Considering the absolutely horrid weather conditions the organizers should have been better prepared with those supplies and other cooling methods in place. There were runners going into convenience stores and people using their own hoses to help cool the runners.

When I ran the West Palm Beach Marathon in December it was hotter, but they had the supplies out there.

Yesterday, they did not.

If it were not for the spectators I'm sure it would have been a lot worst. Many of the bars and restaurants were bringing out buckets of ice and water. People had garden hoses and offering water. Specatotors where giving up their own water bottles. I saw people sharing bottles.

The tough part of that is runners need more then water. They need electrolytes that are in sport drinks. I bring my own pills so can run on water, but many do not.

The Marathon Committee needs to come clean and apologize for what went wrong. They probably just don't know yet.
 
One of the guys I work with had a son who ran in the Chicago Race as well. He was one of the first group to go off (within the first 3 minutes) and he did finish the race in 3 hours+, but he said they were out of water before even the "elite" runners finished. He ended up with IV's and he told his Dad that he looked around to the others who were dehydrated, there were some of the best athletes who ran in the same position he was. He was trying to qualify for the Boston Marathon, but as of this morning (who knows if he will change his mind - he's mid 20's), he wasn't going to run a Marathon again. He decided to stick to the "shorter" races in the future.
 
Unfortunately, the men's photo finish story will not be remembered in the 2007 Chicago Marathon...
CBS2 Chicago covered the entire run, beginning to end, we did watch, admittedly because Jim and also someone from Mary's job were running, and that finish was exciting! Though I had to wonder why the finish line banner was so teeny tiny, the people holding it kept getting in the way.

The Women's was no less interesting, as the woman leading on the final stretch was so busy waving to everyone she didn't see the 2nd place runner making a sprint to beat her on the outside.

The Marathon Committee needs to come clean and apologize for what went wrong. They probably just don't know yet.

And that's all I'd like to see.

Sofar, that's not happening, they had the organizer at some press conference on the evening local news and he again said they had plenty of supplies. '40 or 50 thousand servings of water per station' if I remember correctly what he said. Baloney. I've got only one reason other than the Olympic bid that I can think of they'd be so admant they did nothing wrong, and that's to try to head off any of the inevitable lawsuits that will happen. :/
 
Congrats Matt and Sharon!!!

And Jim, congratulations...as far as I'm concerned, you DID compete in and complete the Chicago Marathon, Job well done! :thumbsup2
 
So blabbermouths - anyone up for Alaska in 2009? :)
 
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