$49.00 code, Why is it being deleted from posts

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The latest one now is African/American, but you don't have to be black to get it. I have no idea what will come out next with them. This is getting so stupid.
 
GentleBen, this is not meant to offend you, but some of us may take offense to what you posted.

My response to that is, do you think its called that in celebration of African/American heritage month, which by the way was Feburary?
Just a thought. As all of us know, or I hope we do, Disney does not discriminate. The titles of their specials are not meant that only one ethnic group can book it. Its so that we can all celebrate in ones heritage.
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When I called and asked about the "Fall Value Rate" of $49 per night, my CM could not find anything. I mentioned the code that had been listed on this site (told her that I got it from a friend.) She told me that it was a valid code that was listed in hispanic speaking papers, but said that I could use it. I REFUSED! While she searched for other low rates, we talked. She learned that my father-in-law lives about 45 minutes south of WDW. She mentioned a great $49 rate for FL residents. She asked me to have my father-in-law call her, and book our stay. I REFUSED! I was not looking for any discount that was not intended for me, or available to everyone. She searched a little more, and found a different code. She told me the code (funny thing, is that only the last letter changed from the FL resident code and it had the same description), and I posted here. Sorry, about that Pete. I wasn't thinking; she told me the code was available to anyone, anywhere. I did get the $49 rate per night, but not by any means for which I feel that I have cheated the system. I guess I will find for sure when my confirmation arrives, whether or not I qualified for the low rate. All I know is that I told that I lived in Minnesota,probably 5 times.

-Edward

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09/01 ASMu - FIRST TIME ONSITE!!!!
 
I think that all the people who booked rooms with discounted rates and codes would be very disturbed to find out that, according to a previous poster's criteria, they were not financially stable, not altogether very intelligent, and didn't have very good jobs.

If a prospective guest is not calling Disney to inquire about the best rates available at a given time, that is one less room that may be rented. That is one less family that doesn't buy park passes; that doesn't eat over and over and over again at inflated prices. That is one family that doesn't spend funds on souvenirs and t-shirts and boat rentals and tours and film and drinks at the pool bar. Do you really think Disney wants us to stop calling and asking about room rates? If we stop calling: bad, very bad. Bad for business. If the phones stop ringing, they stop renting rooms, and stop selling vacations. Let's not worry about the multi-BILLION dollar Disney company with it's movies, and themeparks all over the world, and it's toy companies, and it's Rosie O'Donnell show tapings, and it's National Car Rental Tiger Woods golf tournament, and it's nationally televised holiday parades, and it's ABC network. I'm sure they'll survive a few really diligent vacation planners.

It is ridiculous to think that WDW is providing discounts as charity work. They are in business to make money. Every marketing tool they use is designed to bring in business. Every dollar they spend on advertising and promotions is intended to get someone to spend a WHOLE lot more money in the resorts and parks than the ads cost.

What a nice sentiment to think that all these discounts are designed to help underpriviledged families take a vacation, as someone said earlier on this thread, but that is not it. That is not it. That is not it. Underpriviledged families are probably not spending $ .50 per day on USA Today to get the codes so they can take a vacation. That is not to say that they aren't. But, that would not be the appropriate vehicle to reach a particular segment of the market.

Remember that WDW execs (think of Eisner's salary, stock options, 401k, retirement, and bonuses) are in it to make money for shareholders. Everything they do is designed to make money. Every marketing tool they use is for the sole purpose of enticing people to visit their resorts and parks so that they spend money there. The money that is spent in the parks and resorts has to hugely outweigh the amount, dollar for dollar, that is spent on marketing. Every advertising and promotions dollar that is spent is done so to bring in business of people that will spend money. It's a business. Yes it's "the happiest place on Earth", but it's a business, plain and simple.

Could you imagine going to the grocery store and being told that the price was less for you because you are Hispanic or African American? What an insult. Could you imagine how you would feel to be the Caucasin, Asian, Indian, Canadian behind them in line who didn't get the same price? Could you imagine being told that you were expected to pay more because you lived on Oak street instead of Maple Street? What if there were those that said "well those Hispanics can't afford the groceries, so they should get the discounts". That would be just so insulting to the Hispanics. Maybe an earlier poster thinks we should pay rates for rooms based on our incomes or tax filings.

People sometimes make a lot of assumptions. I am not one of those people who calls CRO and makes a stink. I am always appreciative of the work they do to help people plan their vacations. That is a great job to do. I don't feel that I "gotta get me mine" at all costs, as someone implied earlier, but I do feel that if there are discounts being offered, that they should be offered to everyone, whether they are shared here on the boards or not.

Agreed, the Webmaster can do whatever he wants.

These boards by design, are intended for the sharing of information. They are posting boards. If the information needs to be censored first, then perhaps the posts should go to the moderators who can post them. By the way, I think the moderators have a fun job here and do good work to encourage the continued use of these boards for the sharing of information by disney friendly folks. If you notice, there are ads here on this site. These are intended to get your business. If you continue to visit this site, guess what, you may be more likely to do business with the advertisers on this site and with WDW resort and parks. This site is a business, too.

[This message was edited by a1a on 03-17-01 at 05:00 AM.]
 

I agree that it is not fair and frustrating to offer discounts to select populations. It is not that I feel like I have to "get mine" as anothe poster mentioned, but it does really annoy me to feel I have paid more just because I did not know the "secret word". I totally blame WDW for this fiasco, they seem very untogether when it comes to promotions and reservations. When you call, some cm's offer discounts that others don't. There does not seem to be any set policy and it leaves people frustrated and upset.

I also totally agree with the posters who say it is not right to discriminate either for or against certain groups. I disagree that we are taking up the rooms of the "less fortunate". Going to WDW is mighty expensive, and I don't think a $49/night deal will make much difference to truly poor people. The park passes and food, not to mention plane tickets would still put WDW out of the reach of those families (sadly).

I say what is offered to one person should be offered to all (exception being FL residents as someone posted earlier). <IMG WIDTH="15" HEIGHT="15" SRC="/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif" alt="razz">

Mari
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DL 1992
Offsite 1994
FW 1996
AS Music 1998
GF 1999
Poly 2000 (my favorite resort)
Poly 5/01 (Yay!)
AS Music 9/01
Poly (Yay!) 12/01
 
I called yesterday and got the $49.00 rate w/out the code.
I thought I would at least try and I asked the rate for the AS for Sept.23rd -Oct.3rd and I was quoted $77.00 per night. I them mentioned I knew there was a $49.00 rate and I said I knew there was a code but I admitted I read on the internet but I did not know what it was. She said "Just a second" and asked me if the code was "###" and I joked and said "If it works it is". Mind you I had already told her I did not know the code. She said she had no idea where the code came from, checked my dates and off I went.
Now that is my opinion it is bordering on fraud when I ask the rate and 2 seconds later I save almost $30.00 a night w/out any more information from me.
The bad news is the resort and park are probably going to be packed because of this discount so I'll save money but not time.
I think some of the people posting are being riduclous refusing a lower rate. Is someone more deserving than you? Definitely not me. I am taking my $49.00/night
 
I think they should offer a discount on the Delux Resorts. That $49.00 rate is great can't they please have a discount for the spoiled parents of Teenagers who still want to go on vacation with their parents but need to be on the monorail and have easy acess to the parks and resorts.
 
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Hi a1a!

I believe that the banner ads that you see on this site help to defray the thousands of dollars per month (no exaggeration) that is costs to run these boards.

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There is a code for a discount at the Polynesian which will make it $189/night, good until october. Of course they aren't going to charge anything near $49/night at any of the deluxe resorts. Best I have ever seen at a deluxe is WL and AKL for $159/night. Anyone ever gotten better than that recently?

If you are interested in the code for the poly email me and I will happily send it to you.
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Mari
Offsite 1972
Offsite 1988
DL 1992
Offsite 1994
FW 1996
AS Music 1998
GF 1999
Poly 2000 (my favorite resort)
Poly 5/01 (Yay!)
AS Music 9/01
Poly (Yay!) 12/01
 
I agree with a1a and TravelSheryl. This is a business. Disney is a big boy and can police its promotions by itself.

What we have to remember is that this board is a business too. Yes, the DIS may have other advertisers who help defray the costs of operating this board, but look at who its biggest advertiser is: Dreams Unlimited Travel.

Dreams Unlimited Travel can't beat a price of $49. I know. I asked DU to check prices for the same nights and received a quote of $99 per night.
Unless I'm an annual passholder, FL resident or AAA member, I can't expect to get any discount off rack rates. That's why I look to my fellow DIS members for help. Thank you to everyone who posted their codes.

As a point of clarification, in order to post a code, does it have to be available to all without any target audience in mind; or can it be targeted at a specific audience but be available to all - like the code in the Hispanic newspapers. If we are limited to the first instance, codes will NEVER be put on this board. As all codes have now been deleted, I guess we have our answer.
 
Most of us are in agreement on this thread, and probably throughout the boards.

The advertisers that purchase ad space on this web site do so not to help defray costs, which I am certain are high, to operate this website. They advertise as a means of increasing their own business. If it were the case that advertisers pay to advertise on websites to help defray costs, there certainly would be many much more worthy of this kind gesture, the American Cancer Society, for example. Don't kid yourself that they are just "helping out". Everything, everything in business is to make money. People rarely spend money in business without the intent of making more money.

These codes are probably "illegal", because travel agencies may not be able to use them. What a threat to business. Why allow something to be continually posted that undermines your livelihood? The answer is simple: don't.
 
Hi beachbunny,
Just to explain to you, the request to not post codes was a DIS guideline long before the inception of Dreams Unlimited Travel and is not related in ANY way. That decision was made because of the integrity of our webmaster, Pete Werner, who was not about to let people "cheat" Disney by taking advantage of codes they were not entitled to. AND although others beg to differ over the legality of this, they WERE instances of people who had booked postcard codes with the codes from information they got on the internet (not as recipients of the postcards) and got to the resort only to find that they were not legitimately entitled to the discount and once they could not produce the card, were made to pay full price. We did not want that happening to any of our readers.

The addition of the guideline to not post this latest series of codes was added because some people seemed to enjoy attacking one another on the Resorts board over these codes and who was, and wasn't, eligible. While these boards are here to share information, we only want to share confirmed, legitimate information. Judging by the large number of confused posters who couldn't get the discount from one agent but called numerous times and did, the dates confusion on some codes and the state eligibility of others, getting confirmed correct information was not happening. We have a strong sense of community over these 35 discussion boards and this was not fostering that sense of community when people were fighting over the legality of these codes.

We ARE trying to verify some of the codes at this time and when we do, I will be happy to post them on the Resort board for all to see. Pete posted one and I had verified informtion on the Passholder Moderate Website April/May offer after another poster said he got an AP rate after Apr 11. To make an accusation that the codes can't be posted because of the board affiliation with Dreams as an advertiser is incorrect and unfair.

If you wish to discuss this further with me, please do so by e-mail, I don't often check this board and would not necessarily see a reply or question you have regarding my comments.
Thanks in advance and I hope that you understand the policy and reasoning for it now.
Cathy

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The postcard codes were not an issue here. Are those people who used a code PRINTED IN A NEWSPAPER to get a great discount at the All Stars now being called CHEATERS? Wow - that is some strong language! The discounted rates were offered to all who called and asked CRO about them...no cheating was involved. And what is taking so long to "VERIFY" those codes anyway? Can a travel agency use those codes? And, if a travel agency can't use the codes,how can they verify them? This isn't my battle but I am disgusted at the attempt to vilify those people who are trying to get their kids to WDW for a price they can afford - and then want to share their good fortune with others. I thought this was the Budget Board...

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ISN'T IT UP TO CRO TO FIND OUT IF WE ARE ELIGIBLE FOR A PARTICULAR PROMOTION!!!!! (Yes, I know that is hollaring in e-language. Believe me, I was.)

We are getting a lot of explanation from moderators and webmasters about the reasons for deleting money saving information.

I have read more than once that the reason promotion codes will be deleted is that they do not apply to everyone. Yes, but they do apply to some!!!!!!!

It appears that Disney will continue to use these marketing methods. There will be more and more of these discount promotions identified by codes for CRO. I have never once had CRO ask me in what State I live, therefore, there may have been some of these statewide promotions to which I was entitled, but in which I was not included.

By deleting promotional information from these messages, you may be disallowing people who are entitled to inclusion in the promotion. I have no problem with reading that a particular promotion is not intended for me, but if you delete all codes, you may be doing quite a diservices to many people who fall into the categories that are targeted with the promotion.

That is not fair! You just impacted the finances of a family's vacation. Oh well, no souvenirs for Junior, because his Daddy couldn't get the extra twenty dollars off the room rate. It is not that using a code that is intended for a particular segment of the market that is unfair, it is that you just made it impossible for those that could have used it to use it. You just caused families to pay more for a vacation that they could have paid less for. Maybe they couldn't eve go, because they read about the promotion on this board, and didn't write it down. Nobody at CRO mentioned it to them. Well, maybe next year they'll be able to go to see Mickey.

There seems to be a great deal of concern for poor Disney being cheated. To say that a guest cheated Disney, would mean that the guest was in a position of power in order to do the cheating. It is impossible for any one of us or all of together to impact this multibillion dollar conglomerate. Please don't feel sorry for Disney. Remember how many vacation planning videos they send out each year. There is a different video made targeting each category of guest: families with small children, singles, couples, older guests. They've got a lot of bucks, a lot of bucks to spend, and I certainly would not be too concerned about us outsmarting the Disney executives.

If CRO's would ask the questions that apply to the promotions, they would be able to tell us if we were eligible. That sounds very simple, doesn't it????????????????????????
 
Pete and Cathy tried very nicely to post an explanation that some people don't want to accept. The policy comes straight from the owner of the board Pete Werner. The policy existed long before Dreams Unlimited travel and before we had many advertisers. If you can't accept the explanations given please feel free to Email Pete as he is the only one who can change it. In the meantime the policy will be enforced and we are not going to have a debate here. This thread is locked.

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