***1st Week of December Thread ADR Plans, Park Hours, and dealing with Pop Warner***

well if you just made her eat what was served she would not be picky! at least that is the common wisdom on the disboards! (this is a pet peeve of mine having a picky kid myself and detesting parents who want to judge all the other parents lol).
OMG for a second I thought you were totally judging me! From what I can see, kids are either picky or not. I was a very picky eater as a kid but I turned out ok and I try pretty much everything now and enjoy a wide variety. We expose DD to lots of food, always offer that she can taste but she is stubborn. I feel you with a picky kid!
 
you mean CM?

if I did it at all, it would be breakfast. it is nearly impossible to outright ruin breakfast. even if the eggs are not great, mickey waffles and bacon. what is not to like?
Yes CM... Really on the fence about that one but I've seen good reviews for early breakfasts...

By the way, any F! packages out for Dec yet?
 
Ha! @Lisa F ! I adore you! I've noticed that, it's wild. It just kind of confuses me. I think everyone should be treated as I would want to be treated. Even my children. So, when I hear of kids being made to eat something they don't want to eat, I think, sheesh.......i have foods that I don't like. And I'm betting everyone does. How well do you think it would go over if you told me that I have to eat something that I don't want to eat? Not to get off track here though......your plans are looking great!
my problem is i totally can't keep my mouth shut about it. And then people bring out the "well if you have a kid with special needs it's different" thing... which even though my son does, I feel it is irrelevant because I do not think I would feel much differently about it even if he didn't have special needs. I tried to "make him eat what I ate" when he was younger and this is what it led to:

1 week of him refusing to eat anything because i kept giving him the same thing night after night
7 nights of tears, hysterics and grumpiness (he ate regular breakfast and lunch because I could not have him a mess at school)
6 MONTHS of him bursting into tears every time he decided he wanted to try something new but it was challenging for him because he had so much anxiety about what would go down if he couldn't choke it down even though I told him it was ok and I was wrong to try to make him eat the other thing (I think it was stew or brisket or something).

I spent forever undoing that damage and now we just try when we are ready, no pressure at all. if he decides he wants to try something then changes his mind before he puts it in his mouth, no big deal. And he is trying a lot more things now that he has gotten into watching shows like chopped junior on food tv... but it was when he was ready. He still won't eat many fruits and veggies BUT the last 6 months, new things he eats that he would not before: grilled chicken (breast and thighs), apple slices (have to be sweet and crisp and peeled, not tart or mushy), fruit and veggie smoothies (he would take one sip before and gag, now he sucks these things down - i make both "orange" with sweet potato and carrot and "green" with spinach), turkey tacos (no way he would eat seasoned ground turkey before... just taco shells, meat and cheese but it is a start!), grilled steak (I nearly cried when he agreed to order steak tips at a local restaurant instead of nearly the same price pasta with butter) and I'm sure there's a couple more things I am forgetting. One day my boy will eat salad, just not today lol.
 
I was back and forth on CM and decided no. I'm not sure why but it just looks like hell on earth to me, lol. But I have a ton of other character meals planned. the reviews terrify me too and the chaos would be a lot for my son to handle as he is on the spectrum and has some sensory issues and will zone out in places that are loud and chaotic.
@Lisa F I feel you even more. My daughter is on the spectrum too and I think picky eating is just an aspect of that. She also does not like loud and chaotic places so am thinking of getting her some ear protection as well for the trip. (She still freaks if we turn on the vaccum cleaner or the exhaust fan at home).

Yup no proteins. On hot dog day at school she just tells them "bun only".
 

OMG for a second I thought you were totally judging me! From what I can see, kids are either picky or not. I was a very picky eater as a kid but I turned out ok and I try pretty much everything now and enjoy a wide variety. We expose DD to lots of food, always offer that she can taste but she is stubborn. I feel you with a picky kid!
lol no. I was being sarcastic. this is something that always gets me going on the restaurant board. I should let it slide but it REALLY gets me going. I was told by a feeding expert to take the pressure off, don't make a big deal out of it one way or the other, and just keep offering (exposing them to it like you said). When they are ready they will try it but not a moment before and if you force it you do more harm than good.

Also I think that certain things should be respected for all people and kids are people too... you should not force them to eat things they absolutely detest. Set boundaries on treats for sure, of course. But if they really hate something turning it into a power play does not serve any purpose in life, either theirs or yours.
 
OMG for a second I thought you were totally judging me! From what I can see, kids are either picky or not. I was a very picky eater as a kid but I turned out ok and I try pretty much everything now and enjoy a wide variety. We expose DD to lots of food, always offer that she can taste but she is stubborn. I feel you with a picky kid!
LOL, I remember being very difficult to feed as a child and I'm fine now. I think for most, it's a phase. :) But there would always be food people won't eat- for me it's ketchup. Oh and insects! LOL! :D

EDIT: If my son doesn't want to eat something, he normally just spits it out so it's useless and messier :P
 
My kid has no other developmental issues, he's just plain picky. I, too, tried to force the issue once (feeling the pressure from family and others) and it led to him gagging and crying and me yelling... it wasn't a good look for either of us. I'm much more relaxed about it now and he's becoming a lot more open to trying other things (or new versions of the same things, like different brands of chicken nuggets, different varieties of cheese pizza, etc...). His younger sister is becoming a bit pickier though, it's making me irritable these days. :(
 
Ha! @Lisa F ! I adore you! I've noticed that, it's wild. It just kind of confuses me. I think everyone should be treated as I would want to be treated. Even my children. So, when I hear of kids being made to eat something they don't want to eat, I think, sheesh.......i have foods that I don't like. And I'm betting everyone does. How well do you think it would go over if you told me that I have to eat something that I don't want to eat? Not to get off track here though......your plans are looking great!
And yeah! Although I wouldn't say I'm picky, I really hate mushrooms and eggplant - and for some reason those are the main ingredients in a lot of vegetarian dishes (I'm not 100% vegetarian but about 80%. I still like fried chicken, seafood, and the odd bite of steak or burger). And I would be so unhappy if someone forced me to eat that. I am a bit worried about DD's protein intake but my new blender just arrived today (yay, old one broke) and so we'll be back on the protein shakes in our house! :)
 
How was it doing WDW AFTER a cruise? Did you take a day to rest before the parks? I feel like we (my 6 year old especially) will be pretty tired that day. I think adrenaline will get him thru, but that he will probably sleep early.

Yeah, we were tired. Not so much coming off the ship and that first day for some reason. It hit us the second day. I have no idea why.

We arrived at the Poly really early from the cruise. I figured we'd be tired so that day I didn't really plan anything, we just lounged at the pool and in the room a bit. We had an early dinner at WC. Then back to Poly and room. The next morning, we were planning on hitting Epcot early. We got up and the boys looked rough and felt exhausted. I thought maybe they were getting sick or something. I didn't have the heart to drag them out. We shut the curtains and had them go back to bed. Best decision ever. They slept all day. It was kind of nice. My husband and I read on the patio. They woke up really refreshed. They needed the sleep big time. We hit HS with our fast passes that late afternoon. And the rest of the trip went as planned. We stayed from that Saturday right after our cruise until Wednesday after MNSSHP.

So, I have no clue why we were so worn out the second day. Maybe because on the ship we never really worried about the time. Maybe it was a little bit of "jet lag" and we had to readjust some.
 
@Lisa F I feel you even more. My daughter is on the spectrum too and I think picky eating is just an aspect of that. She also does not like loud and chaotic places so am thinking of getting her some ear protection as well for the trip. (She still freaks if we turn on the vaccum cleaner or the exhaust fan at home).

Yup no proteins. On hot dog day at school she just tells them "bun only".
how old is your daughter? proteins were REALLY tough for my kid. I made his baby food and he would not touch animal protein for years... but he loves hummus, which is pretty the only protein he'd eat. He does not like chicken nuggets (he will tell people very obnoxiously that he hates McDonalds lol, there is none where I live but when we go off island it is not his first choice) but the first protein I had real success with for him were hot dogs (have to be boiled hebrew national, grilled forget, pork forget, natural casing forget) and deli meat. I think due to the softer texture. Then I was able to get him to eat breaded and fried (in olive oil) chicken cutlets... real thin sliced chicken breast. i figured this had to be better than formed nuggets that he wouldn't touch. And now finally he will eat most marinated and grilled/broiled meats, but they have to be not too challenging texturally (his favorite right now is teriyaki marinated boneless skinless chicken thigh that I grill but he likes steak now too). He just turned 8 and I would say chicken cutlets became acceptable about a year ago and grilled meats very very recently. I just gave him lots of hummus and he lived on nut butters, cheese and yogurt. I don't actually think that americans need nearly as much protein as we consume anyway.
 
My kid has no other developmental issues, he's just plain picky. I, too, tried to force the issue once (feeling the pressure from family and others) and it led to him gagging and crying and me yelling... it wasn't a good look for either of us. I'm much more relaxed about it now and he's becoming a lot more open to trying other things (or new versions of the same things, like different brands of chicken nuggets, different varieties of cheese pizza, etc...). His younger sister is becoming a bit pickier though, it's making me irritable these days. :(
Honestly I think kids that are NOT picky eaters are the exception to the rule, from what I've seen of my DD's friends and classmates. And I know for a couple of those kids, the reason they are not picky is because the parents will not feed them anything else if they refuse what is served. And while that might work for some kids, if you ever tried locking horns in battle with my daughter, you will lose. I hope she will be a top notch lawyer one day LOL
 
how old is your daughter? proteins were REALLY tough for my kid. I made his baby food and he would not touch animal protein for years... but he loves hummus, which is pretty the only protein he'd eat. He does not like chicken nuggets (he will tell people very obnoxiously that he hates McDonalds lol, there is none where I live but when we go off island it is not his first choice) but the first protein I had real success with for him were hot dogs (have to be boiled hebrew national, grilled forget, pork forget, natural casing forget) and deli meat. I think due to the softer texture. Then I was able to get him to eat breaded and fried (in olive oil) chicken cutlets... real thin sliced chicken breast. i figured this had to be better than formed nuggets that he wouldn't touch. And now finally he will eat most marinated and grilled/broiled meats, but they have to be not too challenging texturally (his favorite right now is teriyaki marinated boneless skinless chicken thigh that I grill but he likes steak now too). He just turned 8 and I would say chicken cutlets became acceptable about a year ago and grilled meats very very recently. I just gave him lots of hummus and he lived on nut butters, cheese and yogurt. I don't actually think that americans need nearly as much protein as we consume anyway.
She's 6. The other challenge is that I don't make or cook meat at home. So a lot of our proteins at home are beans, tofu, tempeh, and a little bit of fish/seafood. I'll eat meat out but I won't buy or cook it. When she was a toddler she used to eat my lentil loaf that I made and hummus on crackers and nut butters but as she's gotten older it's harder (plus no nut butter allowed at school). I try to make muffins with nut butter and extra eggs for protein as well and she drinks milk which I know has protein. We tried the hot dogs too - no luck. No nuggets, mac and cheese (unless homeade). This is why QS in MK is such a challenge! But she'll eat blue cheese. Seriously :confused3
 
My kid has no other developmental issues, he's just plain picky. I, too, tried to force the issue once (feeling the pressure from family and others) and it led to him gagging and crying and me yelling... it wasn't a good look for either of us. I'm much more relaxed about it now and he's becoming a lot more open to trying other things (or new versions of the same things, like different brands of chicken nuggets, different varieties of cheese pizza, etc...). His younger sister is becoming a bit pickier though, it's making me irritable these days. :(
It's tough, especially when the world wants to tell you how back in the day they just ate what they were given and look at how great they turned out... But I know people who are TRULY picky eaters (even as adults) and being forced to eat things they detested as kids did not undo that. Teaching overall better habits is where the focus should be, making better choices and portion control and eating when hungry and being active... but respecting the tastes of your child is important too. JMHO

But I feel you. I had to stop putting so much importance into that stuff. I'd research and shop for and make things guaranteed on the internet to get even the pickiest eater to heat a healthy, balanced meal and then forget it, wouldn't touch it. Used to make me so mad. So much money. so much time that i don't have. so much effort. but you know what? that's on me, not him. I took a huge chill pill and we focus on making better choices. No more fighting about food. when he is ready he will try something new.
 
She's 6. The other challenge is that I don't make or cook meat at home. So a lot of our proteins at home are beans, tofu, tempeh, and a little bit of fish/seafood. I'll eat meat out but I won't buy or cook it. When she was a toddler she used to eat my lentil loaf that I made and hummus on crackers and nut butters but as she's gotten older it's harder (plus no nut butter allowed at school). I try to make muffins with nut butter and extra eggs for protein as well and she drinks milk which I know has protein. We tried the hot dogs too - no luck. No nuggets, mac and cheese (unless homeade). This is why QS in MK is such a challenge! But she'll eat blue cheese. Seriously :confused3
I don't like that stuff either, lol. except for beans. but i often put some kind of meat in my beans (sorry, meat eater here lol). I think except for maybe tofu a lot of that stuff is kind of challenging texturally. I'm sure you've tried just about everything, I also hate it when someone tells me if I "just" do this it will solve all of my problems. You should really just take a look at what her protein requirements are for your own peace of mind (i don't know what they are for kids but for adults i know we WAY overconsume what is actually required for health). There is also always protein powder to be mixed into smoothies.
 
I don't like that stuff either, lol. except for beans. but i often put some kind of meat in my beans (sorry, meat eater here lol). I think except for maybe tofu a lot of that stuff is kind of challenging texturally. I'm sure you've tried just about everything, I also hate it when someone tells me if I "just" do this it will solve all of my problems. You should really just take a look at what her protein requirements are for your own peace of mind (i don't know what they are for kids but for adults i know we WAY overconsume what is actually required for health). There is also always protein powder to be mixed into smoothies.
I'm a fan of protein powder :) One more thing - there's a book called "It's not about the Broccoli" that I'm reading that really speaks to me about feeding - and how a lot of it is the parents mindset etc. It's an interesting read and we're going to try some of the techniques.
 
lol no. I was being sarcastic. this is something that always gets me going on the restaurant board. I should let it slide but it REALLY gets me going. I was told by a feeding expert to take the pressure off, don't make a big deal out of it one way or the other, and just keep offering (exposing them to it like you said). When they are ready they will try it but not a moment before and if you force it you do more harm than good.

Also I think that certain things should be respected for all people and kids are people too... you should not force them to eat things they absolutely detest. Set boundaries on treats for sure, of course. But if they really hate something turning it into a power play does not serve any purpose in life, either theirs or yours.

Yep, I agree, fighting about it makes it a power play. And once anyone is forced to do something, it's just not going to work out well in the long run. You may immediately get the outcome you want, but it won't build respect and trust. For kids too. I know though, that parents are just fearful sometimes and trying to do what they think is best.

I see this a lot in our area with sports. My boys have friends whose parents make them play and do sports the kid doesn't even want to be doing. Again, I wouldn't make you participate in baseball if you had no desire to do it, so why the kiddo? On the other hand, I know everyone simply wants the best for their kids. It can be hard to see the big picture though and just let them be sometimes.
 
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She's 6. The other challenge is that I don't make or cook meat at home. So a lot of our proteins at home are beans, tofu, tempeh, and a little bit of fish/seafood. I'll eat meat out but I won't buy or cook it. When she was a toddler she used to eat my lentil loaf that I made and hummus on crackers and nut butters but as she's gotten older it's harder (plus no nut butter allowed at school). I try to make muffins with nut butter and extra eggs for protein as well and she drinks milk which I know has protein. We tried the hot dogs too - no luck. No nuggets, mac and cheese (unless homeade). This is why QS in MK is such a challenge! But she'll eat blue cheese. Seriously :confused3
Hmm, DS2 actually does not eat a lot of meat, especially red meat... He eats mostly fish/ shrimp and chicken... and it's usually steamed. He would eat other stuff when we're out but that's not very often so I'm a little worried about a long trip. We've never been away for so long before... :rolleyes:
EDIT: He's adventurous enough outside (even eats peking duck :P) but for 11 days straight eating food prepared outside is a little daunting.
 
Yep, I agree, fighting about it makes it a power play. And once anyone is forced to do something, it's just not going to work out well in the long run. You may immediately get the outcome you want, but it won't build respect and trust. For kids too. I know though, that parents are just fearful sometimes and trying to do what they think is best.

I see this a lot in our area with sports. My boys have friends whose parents make them play and do sports the kid doesn't even want to be doing. Again, I wouldn't make you participate in baseball if you had no desire to do it, so why the kiddo? On the other hand, I know everyone simply wants the best for their kids. It can be hard to see the big picture though and just let them be sometimes.
Yes. Also my rule is I will let you try anything but you have to finish it (sports and activities I mean) and give your best... if you don't want to sign up again that is fine but no quitting in the middle. I think that is a reasonable compromise between teaching them that you finish what you start but not making them do something they hate forever.
 
Yes. Also my rule is I will let you try anything but you have to finish it (sports and activities I mean) and give your best... if you don't want to sign up again that is fine but no quitting in the middle. I think that is a reasonable compromise between teaching them that you finish what you start but not making them do something they hate forever.
Exactly!
 


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