12/09/06 Cruise Continued ~ Pirating Bananas DIS Geekorama Part 2 Part 7

[Jhalkias]

I need an informal poll here . . .

Most of you are parents or grandparents . . .

Some even teachers . . .

So what do you think a student dress code should include?

One of my school board members is upset because another boy in his son’s 2nd grade class has an earring. He feels that is inappropriate in school, and his kids should “not have to see that”.

You guys may already know me well enough to know what I think, but what do you think?

John1

 

[pyramid2000]

Well, up till now our pre cruise plans have been to drive as far as we can get after school on Friday, stop over at an el cheapo hotel in north Fla Friday night, then complete the drive on Saturday morning.

So, DH says to me earlier this week he thinks he can make it all the way to Orlando Friday evening so why don't we make reservations at an All Star? HA! I've been trying. Why didn't any of you tell me that you have to take a blood test to find out availability there? Yikes! Anyhow, we are settled with a room at Best Western on Hotel Plaza. Don't look for us at Jellyrolls however, I still don't expect us to get there before midnight.

I'm trying to remember back to last September... I think it took me no more than 6 hours. I left my niece's by around 9 and the family's flight came in around 4. I know I was there when they got there. This is my best guess Patsy.

 

[MommyMinnie]

Once you start restricting jewlery on boys you will have to do the same for girls to be "fair". Do you want to take earrings away from all the 2nd grade grils? Let the boy get into one fight. When the earring gets pulled the problem will solve itself. (I would make such a bad school board member)

 

[MommyMinnie]

I'm trying to remember back to last September... I think it took me no more than 6 hours. I left my niece's by around 9 and the family's flight came in around 4. I know I was there when they got there. This is my best guess Patsy.

Where is your niece's? Was your family flying into Orlando?
We almost always drive to Orlando and the drive can take a varying amount of time depending on traffic in Atlanta and Orlando. Both can slow us down over an hour each.

 

[becka]

I need an informal poll here . . .

Most of you are parents or grandparents . . .

Some even teachers . . .

So what do you think a student dress code should include?

One of my school board members is upset because another boy in his son’s 2nd grade class has an earring. He feels that is inappropriate in school, and his kids should “not have to see that”.

You guys may already know me well enough to know what I think, but what do you think?

John1

While I would not let my DS get an earring in 2nd grade I am not sure that it should be considered a violation of a dress code. Dress codes IMHO are to prevent students from wearing profane, dangerous and/or too revealing clothes so as to prevent distraction. A boy wearing an earring is no more a distraction than a girl wearing an earring. It would be a non-issue with me unless the earring was flashing curse words or could be used as a weapon.

 

[klineyqueen]

I need an informal poll here . . .

Most of you are parents or grandparents . . .

Some even teachers . . .

So what do you think a student dress code should include?

One of my school board members is upset because another boy in his son’s 2nd grade class has an earring. He feels that is inappropriate in school, and his kids should “not have to see that”.

You guys may already know me well enough to know what I think, but what do you think?

John1

I personally am not a fan of little boys with earrings...but....I don't see how you could add that to your dress code. You would have to have no earrings on anyone...not boys or girls. I think if you put that into your dress code your community would go nuts. Just my Opinion.

 

[pyramid2000]

I need an informal poll here . . .

All of you are parents or grandparents . . .

Some even teachers . . .

So what do you think a student dress code should include?

One of my school board members is upset because another boy in his son’s 2nd grade class has an earring. He feels that is inappropriate in school, and his kids should “not have to see that”.

You guys may already know me well enough to know what I think, but what do you think?

John1

When DD was in preschool there was a boy in her class with an earring. Yes, at 4.

I personally think that something such as this should wait until the boy can make other adult type decisions ...but then some would also use this arguement for girls. But this is the problem you would run into John. If girls can wear them, then so can boys. In reality, there is little you could do if a boy wanted to wear a dress either. Of course you COULD do something, but not without a long fight.

Private schools have an easier time because they are, afterall, private. They differentiate between girls and boys and what they wear, even between what a girl can wear in the 1st grade as opposed to the 8th.

If you want my opinion, I think public schools in general need to suck it up and create and INFORCE more dress codes. Now I am no expert, but have read about how schools who implement some type of uniform get better results from the students in almost every aspect, ie, grades, conduct, etc.

The district north of us is a pre-K thru 12 district and they implemented a uniform a few years back. This included colors and type of clothing. Pants can not have more than 5 pockets for example. There is still a wide variety for students to choose from, but the variety is all age appropriate. Has it improved the school? I really don't know. I do know that SOME parents and students were up in arms against it. I believe that it was a small percentage, but they made themselves seem larger than they were. Plus there is hardly a word mentioned after 3 years.

I wish our superintendent would do what he said he would, which was to watch what happened in the other district, and if successful, implement it here also. But our biggest problem is that we have two districts here: Pre-K to 6 and 7-12. Putting in the elementary district would be kind of mute if it weren't in place at the higher level also.

We did have a girl who dyed her hair pink. She was "suspended" until she dyed it back. There was a lot of back and forth among parents. The new handbook now address this as much as it can, but not everything can be addressed.

Sorry this is so long....

 

[pyramid2000]

Where is your niece's? Was your family flying into Orlando?
We almost always drive to Orlando and the drive can take a varying amount of time depending on traffic in Atlanta and Orlando. Both can slow us down over an hour each.

She is at Robbins Air Force Base. And yes, they flew into Orlando.

 

[tynkerbell]

Last night after I got off the computer I was able to have a full cup of that Eddy’s lite chocolate chunk ice cream for 6 points. Not too bad since I had 8 points left to hit my target…. I know our cafeteria here at work is having taco salads for lunch and I love them so in order to prevent myself from getting one I actually packed my lunch. I brought in a Lean Cuisine pizza. I also packed one of those 100 calorie snack packs of the Chips Ahoy. Yum!

I love those 100 calorie packs... really helps me out with portion control when I want a snack or a sweet. Have you tried the Fudge Stripe cookie ones? Those are my favorite! So yummy!

 

[tynkerbell]

Only for the first two weeks Becka. Then your bladder is supposed to adjust to the increase in water.

DID YOU HEAR THAT BLADDER!

My bladder doesn't cooperate with this. If I drink anything after 8pm I'm up at least 3 times in the middle of the night.

 

[ruley3]

Just a quick Hello.. I am still home today with my sick DS .... Scanned the posts and wow what a beautiful daughter you have V! Anyway I am not for earrings on little kids in general but I do not think anybody should be able to restrict that since it doesn't really influence the learning environment... just my opinion

 

[becka]

Just a quick Hello.. I am still home today with my sick DS .... Scanned the posts and wow what a beautiful daughter you have V! Anyway I am not for earrings on little kids in general but I do not think anybody should be able to restrict that since it doesn't really influence the learning environment... just my opinion

I hope your DS starts feeling better soon. It is always so hard when our kids are sick. I always wish I could just magically make everything better.

 

[klineyqueen]

The district north of us is a pre-K thru 12 district and they implemented a uniform a few years back. This included colors and type of clothing. Pants can not have more than 5 pockets for example. There is still a wide variety for students to choose from, but the variety is all age appropriate. Has it improved the school? I really don't know. I do know that SOME parents and students were up in arms against it. I believe that it was a small percentage, but they made themselves seem larger than they were. Plus there is hardly a word mentioned after 3 years.

Several districts in our area have gone this route. They are very specific. Khaki pants, collar polo shirts, specific shoes, you name it. But they don't have specific jewelery requirements...again what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

 

[tynkerbell]

While I would not let my DS get an earring in 2nd grade I am not sure that it should be considered a violation of a dress code. Dress codes IMHO are to prevent students from wearing profane, dangerous and/or too revealing clothes so as to prevent distraction. A boy wearing an earring is no more a distraction than a girl wearing an earring. It would be a non-issue with me unless the earring was flashing curse words or could be used as a weapon.

I agree with Becka.

 

[klineyqueen]

I love those 100 calorie packs... really helps me out with portion control when I want a snack or a sweet. Have you tried the Fudge Stripe cookie ones? Those are my favorite! So yummy!

I think I have tried all of the cookie ones. I like the oreos!

 

[klineyqueen]

I hope your DS starts feeling better soon. It is always so hard when our kids are sick. I always wish I could just magically make everything better.

Don't we all! I always tease my DH...I say...I wish if someone had to be sick it wasn't the kids...it was you!!! Seriously...I HATE when he gets sick...because if he misses work we miss money. When he gets sick it is usually the down and out kind of sick!

 

[TanaL]

I am a city girl so I thought maybe one of you would be more familiar with this subject. Someone here at work is selling a 1/4 Beef for $400. I don't know much about this other than you are buying the meat from a quarter of a cow. Moo!

I e-mailed her to ask what this included and I got back the following:

We had a 1,400 pound steer slaughtered, hanging it weighed 975 pounds, so each 1/4 was about 243 pounds. You will still have some waste but not a whole lot. We had them mix the 1/4's, so that various roasts that are normally only on the hind end, would be put into each quarter. We have 4 bags with each quarter, one bag is about 45 pound packages of hamburger. From there, the remaining bags are roasts and steaks, we had the roasts packaged into 3 pound roasts, steaks were packed 3/4 inch thick, 2 per package. This was a large animal and was fed out for the meat, the other steer my son raised was only 20 pounds heavier, so it went to the youth livestock auction. I can look at the list tonight and let you know exactly how many each steak/roast, etc. I know there are numerous of each kind. The t-bones are huge.

I am thinking that $400 sounds like a pretty good deal for all of that meat. Has anyone else done anything like this? How much freezer room would you expect this to take?

We just started doing this last year. Be sure you know how the cow was fed and raised if that is important to you; we only buy organic grass-fed, not anti-biotics, etc. I think our cow was quite a bit smaller, I think we had about 25 lbs of hamburger plus the other cuts. I put it all in a box in the deep freeze and the box was about 18"x18"x18" or so. If you only have your fridge/freezer, I wouldn't do it. But if you have an extra freezer (or can get one free on freecycle, we did that and got an extra fridge/freezer for the garage), then it works out nicely. I'm also in an organic produce club, and I get chicken, milk and eggs right from the farmers so I hardly ever have to go to the store which is nice!

 

[87Heel]

My only guideline on earrings in school (especially at the elementary level) is to limit it to simple stud earrings. Hoops or dangling earrings are a safety issue for careless kids. Boys/girls whoever wants to wear them. (And since my girls aren't allowed to get pierced ears yet, there's no way DS would have them in second grade!)

 

[pyramid2000]

My pictures came in the mail today so I thought I would share:

Beautiful!!

 

[goofyforlife]

So what do you think a student dress code should include?

One of my school board members is upset because another boy in his son’s 2nd grade class has an earring. He feels that is inappropriate in school, and his kids should “not have to see that”.

You guys may already know me well enough to know what I think, but what do you think?

John1

I been through many dress codes and such.

My opinion is that if the child (male/female/other) had jewelry that affected his safety in the classroom or gym class, you could prohibit it. (ex. could be hanging earrings in gym class or chains from body "parts")

If safety is not a concern then IMHO school boards should have no say....

Now i don't care if your kid (again male/female/other) has 50 earrings but if my kid could be injured playing a game (ex soccer, etc) by landing against/onto one of those 50 metal pieces then that's another story.

Down off soap box......