101 Dalmations = "R" rating?

[Sarangel]

Bars are a whole different ball game. It's part of the culture in bars, and the main reason that I don't go to them. It's only in restaurants that I have a problem with smoking.

Actually, (at least out here in CA) they did a study a year or two after the law went into effect banning smoking from bars and found that it had almost no effect on the patrons and the culture. Of course, here it's mild enough (even in the winter) for smokers to go outside.

Smoking is one of those issues that parents should talk to their kids about, like drinking and racisim. All of these issues are likely to be encountered in the real world and understanding them makes them easier to deal with.

At the risk of getting on a soapbox, restricting admission to movies based on this sort of thing is getting awfully close to that culture of victimhood that our society is getting sucked into. There comes a point where people should take responsibility for their own actions and not have them regulated by the state. By all means, use an advisory that a film contains language, smoke, bad grammer, or whatever, but let parents decide what their kids can handle.

Sarangel

 

[Cricket2]

Originally posted by Sarangel
By all means, use an advisory that a film contains language, smoke, bad grammer, or whatever, but let parents decide what their kids can handle.

At what level should the advisory be entered at?

"G"?

"R"?

Is a new level such as the proposed "E" in order?


JC

 

[Another Voice]

Disney already has started editing material for tobacco use. When the ‘Pecos Bill’ short was released on DVD last year, the cowboy’s cigarettes were digitally removed. The cowboy’s guns were also removed because Michael Eisner didn’t think they were appropriate anymore. There have been strong rumors that all future releases of both shorts and features will be “reviewed” for current standards (in other words, say goodbye to the crows in ‘Dumbo’). And in the film of Rod Serling during the preshow for WDW’s ‘Tower of Terror’, the cigarette in his hand from the original footage was digitally removed as well*.

Tobacco smoking in movies is a current hot topic in Hollywood. It’s not like that studios and filmmakers really care about the message they’re sending. Everyone in town latches onto a new politically correct statement. This week it’s smoking; next week it will be something else. As always, the level of hypocrisy is truly amazing as Michael Eisner frets about someone smoking while at the same time putting the marijuana soaked ‘Scary Movie 3’ into production and giving the family-friendly ‘The Hot Chick’ a bigger ad budget than ‘Treasure Planet’ (according to the rumors).


* - There’s also a rumor, which I haven’t been able to confirm, that a similar trick was done on some of the footage of Walt Disney for ‘One Man’s Dream’.

 

[Cricket2]

Say goodnight Gracie!

JC

 

[Jeff in BigD]

Someone else posted this on another site, but I thought it was too good not to share...

And Now A Mindless Interlude...

Eisner: So, gentlemen: what's our plan today for making money?

Crony A: Sir, I think you should know that our sales have plummeted over the past five years. We're losing money everyday sir.

Eisner: Nonsense! Look at how much money I have *pulls wad of bills out of coat pocket* I'm freakin' rich! Now, any suggestions.

Crony A: But sir!

Eisner: You. Go to Disney Hell.

Crony A: *screams as he falls through trap door of flames, 'It's A Small World After All' playing below*

Eisner: Now, back to business, I need more money! Let's up the ticket prices another 10 bucks and cut benefits for customers staying on Disney property.

Crony B: Guests, sir. They're called Guests.

Eisner: Right, whatever. Now, how else can we improve my financial standing? I wanna be bigger than Gates, I tell ya!

Crony B: Um, well, we could scale back our maintainence crews--

Eisner: Brillant! Do it.

Crony B: But that'll put the park attractions in great disrepair--they're bad off as it is! And our safety standards have dropped due to the lack of inspections--

Eisner: So what, it saves money, more for me.

Crony B: But the Disney fans! They won't come to the parks anymore--there's nothing new and we're closing everything down!

Eisner: Hmm, then let's build a new ride... like that one with have in Fantasyland... what's it called?

Everybody: *sigh* Dumbo.

Eisner: YEAH, that's the one!

Crony B: But we already have two other clones, sir! Aladdin's Magic Carpets in Adventureland and the Triceratops Spin at Dinoland, U.S.A.

Eisner: Hmm, you're right. Better put the new one at the Disney Studios. Theme it after The Drew Carey Show--gotta represent ABC, y'know.

Crony B: Mr. Eisner, please! *is sent to Disney Hell*

Eisner: Alright, now, how else can we make some quick cash?

Crony C: Movies?

Eisner: Oh yeah, those animated whatchacallits... what kind of stuff do we have?

Crony C: Well, we've got this great new story--

Eisner: Boooorinnnng. I know, let's make a sequel from one of our fabulous Disney Classics. People can't seem to get enough of them--they'll buy it because it says Disney!

Crony C: Well, which movie do you want to produce a sequel for now?

Eisner: The Jungle Book.

Crony C: The Jungle Book? Why would you want a sequel for The Jungle Book?

Eisner: No, it'll be great, and the parents will love it so long as we remember to put in some great family value or lesson in along with it. Cast the most popular actors we have right now--who are they?

Crony C: Well, Goodman just finished with Monsters, Inc. and Osmet just wrapped up voice-acting for Kingdom Hearts--

Eisner: BINGO! Give them a call, tell them to come back to the studio tomorrow.

Crony C: But we don't even have a script yet!

Eisner: Eh, just make 'em talk about Disney, it'll work out. What other movies do we have on the burner?

Crony C: The live action Haunted Mansion movie?

Eisner: Ugh... how are we supposed to make money off of that? Wait, I got it, Eisner, you're a genius. Cast a big name star and throw in the family lesson.

Crony C: *rolls eyes* Would you like me to call Billy Crystal or Tim Allen?

Eisner: No, no, no. Get Eddie Murphy. EVERYBODY loves Eddie Murphy, they'll pay to watch him in our Mansion movie. He's funny.

Crony C: With all due respect sir, Murphy is a loud-mouthed, egotistical jerk who can only play one loud obnoxious character who specializes in potty humor. Look at all his movies! Beverly Hills Cop, The Nutty Professor, Showtime, I-Spy, Pluto Nash--

Eisner: Sounds like somebody wants to go to Disney Hell.

Crony C: What?! No, I-- *sent to Disney Hell*

Eisner: I love this job...

 

[Sarangel]

"G"?

"R"?

Is a new level such as the proposed "E" in order?

I wasn't talking about a Rating, though I think all the DVD sequels should have the "E" Rating as a warning, but rather an advisory as they are starting to do with TV shows: V for violence, T for Tobacco, B for Boring or Bad plotline, and so on..

Sarangel

 

[jackzero]

Mikey Ei$ner is plainly,the man who is destroying disney. He is the man who:

A) Led the move to buy ABC(Big Mistake) and the GO Network and took huge baths, in lost profits, in the process

B) Put forth the plans to cut corners in theme parks(Animal Kingdom and California Adventure come to mind,among others)

C) Delayed Disneys entry into the DVD market because he didnt see any "Profit Gain" since he was a devotee to the boondoggle known as "DIVX".

Mike,save us all the trouble of passing around the petition and step down. Put the company in the hands of someon who actually gives a darn about the company and not just the profits.

 

[Cricket2]

Originally posted by jackzero
C) Delayed Disneys entry into the DVD market because he didnt see any "Profit Gain" since he was a devotee to the boondoggle known as "DIVX".

Speaking of stupid decisions, ABC is the only network to chose 720p over the standard 1080i format for HD. Fox is the only other slacker, not converting yet (only 480p so far).

I wonder who made that decision? They literaly are making scaler's cost more just because they think they know better.

They don't.

Wanna bet Ei$ner still is taping using a Beta?

 

[jackzero]

JC...I know this first hand. I own a ATI All In Wonder for my PC which allows me to view HDTV signals...And I can tell you that ABC is the worst offender in Hidef programming and image quality(its all grainy and pixilated).

Further more, his "cost cutting measures" have had a trickle down effect,in particular, on company made DVD,whereas Pixar(an independent production house) has loaded theirs down with neat and exciting extras(pick up Monsters Inc. for an example). Simply putting a cheap DVD out there for the masses, without any real content, doesnt cut it anymore.

Ei$ner is running this company in the ground with both bad business and political decisions as well.

 

[Cricket2]

Originally posted by jackzero
JC...I know this first hand. I own a ATI All In Wonder for my PC which allows me to view HDTV signals...And I can tell you that ABC is the worst offender in Hidef programming and image quality(its all grainy and pixilated).

I wrote up a reponse to this and then removed it.

I'm going to make a new thread instead because it's worthy of it (IMHO).

JC

 

[Another Voice]

That's right folks. From what I just heard on Wednesday, this is indeed Eisner's final fiscal year as Chairman and CEO of the Walt Disney Company.

Michael Eisner may be a man who can’t run a business without adult supervision, Michael Eisner may be personally disliked by everyone in Hollywood from studio executives to waiters/actors, and Michael Eisner may have the creative ability of a damp bag of gravel. But…Michael Eisner plays a great game of cut throat corporate politics.

Don’t count him out until the Tin Man throws the last pail of water and the you see the pointy hat floating in the puddle.

 

[jackzero]

Hey, just call me the "Tin Man"