100% Confirmed Call In Ap Rates Will Be Released!

Yesterday I got a call from Disney Guest Services/Exec Office regarding my lengthy letter on the Best Rate Program. The gal was wonderful and did an excellent job in answering my questions, being honest, and assuring me that others "up the line" would definitely "hear" my concerns and comments. Below is a quick summary of our discussion, as an FYI. What she told me, if you read between the lines, both agrees with and contradicts the information originally posted.

We talked for about 1/2 hour. Basically, what it came down to is this ...

1) Disney is saying that there will not be any new AP rates that come out other than through the BRP. But she said they originally said the 120 days wouldn't change and obviously it did -- since they just lowered it to 60 days.

2) She said they are being bombarded with emails and letters about the BRP. While she wouldn't specifically tell me their leaning she very much "implied" that there were many, many, many, many people upset and even MAD about the new BRP program. We talked about the fact that the non-refundable deposit is a hard pill to swollow -- especially 120 days out and even 60 days out especially in light of the current cancellation policy on the package and room only rates. I explained that there was a lot of concern that Disney is going to change the refund policy on both pac kages and room only. Again, she indicated that this seemed to be a common concern among MANY.

3) If a new AP rate were to come out those with ressies under the BRP would not automatically get that rate. They would have to call and have the new rate applied. She said that many, many, many people are voicing the opinion that they are VERY upset about this. We talked about the fact that I felt, as many on the boards also felt, that the lower rate should be automatically applied to a ressie that was in the BRP since the program was suppose to be the best AP rate available... She told me that lots of emails were also voicing this concern, too. And, she indicated that everyone should "stay tuned" as new policies, etc. seem to be coming forward quite rapidly when it comes to this program.

4) She was very sympathetic to my concerns and said that ALL emails, letters, calls are being documented and ALL info is being passed on up the line. She indicated that the 120 days was changed to 60 days out --- she assumed -- due to the enormous influx of correspondence from AP holders.

5) I explained my concern to her regarding the huge increase in price from last year's AP rate to this year for same time/same property.... and how I felt it was way too much of an increase for one year. I also told her that as a business, I understand they have every right to price their product as they see fit .... but that as I consumer I also have the option of no longer purchasing the product. We also talked about the fact that if Disney continues these increases that the "most loyal and fanatic" Disney AP holders, who often dramatically help their occupancy rates in the value season, may choose to alter their vacation spending habits and look to spend their money elsewhere. She said that they had also received many emails and letters stating just that.

Overall, she told me that, the official word from Disney is that they will not be offering any lower AP rates, but that I should "stay tuned" as things seem to change regularly. Also, that the NO BRP reservations would automatically receive a lower AP rate if it were offered -- that would still be handled how it was in the past by the ressie holder calling and having it applied to the reservation. But she also said, stay tuned ... as is evidenced by the fact that the booking changed from 120 to 60 days out... just a few days ago.
 
has anyone else thought about this. With the ridiculous gas prices, tourism is sure to go DOWN DOWN DOWN. That said, Disney won't be booking as many rooms and hence they may have to open the world of codes back up to us kind souls in order to fill those rooms.

I live in rural NC and gas is $3.50 - I'm personally in a panic. But, every cloud has a silver lining. Perhaps the lining is Disney will be forced to open up discounts.

PamNC
 
That was also a point I made to the CS person yesterday from Disney. She indicated that this could be the case but at this time all she can do is give me the "official" version. I know that we've already paid for our airline ressies so the prices wouldn't affect our plans. But I'm sure those prices will be a huge consideration for those who will drive to WDW.

Stay tuned ... one never knows what Disney will do ...it changes daily. Alot of it is based on occupancy. And, for now I am hearing that they are pretty full from mid-November to the first of the year. If that is the case then discounts will be fewer.
 
Sammie said:
...As to whether only Best Rates will be offered, only time will tell. I am sure not even the Marketing Dept, knows for sure.

Supply and demand will make the decision.

Personally I see no reason to get upset. AP discounts were never a given, not now, not a year ago, not 5 years ago. They have always been released to book rooms when occupancy was down.

If the Best Rate program fills the number of rooms that Disney feels is necessary, then nothing else will be offered. At this point there is no way for them to know that.

If it is not successful, I am sure we will see other options.

So very true. If WDW sells the rooms at the APBR offer there will be no further discounts. Then they have managed to stop the excessive AP booking and subsequent dropping at the last minute (at tremendous expense and frustration to many) and if they don't and feel further discount is needed to fill the rooms then they still at least have the deposits, which is more than they had before.

I do not doubt that they will drop the rates especially since Katrina has hit. I too spoke to a CM and she indicated that there were many rooms available. I'm going to hold out awhile longer but I know it's just a gamble.

Good Luck everyone.
 

I can't get my head around this. How can AP holders be told they are being rewarded under BRP by booking in advance with non-refundable deposits and then they say if an AP rate is released the existing reservations will not be reduced accordingly. I can just imagine the outcry of AP holders who have booked BR, then an AP rate being released which is lower and then being told they can apply for the released AP rate, but will lose their deposits under the BRP :confused3
 
I thought the whole point of the BRO was that, if you booked a room under this, you would get the best rate available for that room. And it doesn't even have to be an AP rate. If a general public code were made available, it would automatically applied to your reservation.

From the WDW/annualpass website:
"Now Passholders booking a Disney Resort room online under the Passholder Best Rate Program at disneyworld.com/passholders can rest easy knowing they have received our best room rate offered to the general public* at that time for the room and nights booked. And, if we subsequently reduce our room rate to the general public for the same room and nights you booked online under this Program, we will automatically reduce your room rate to match that lower rate."
 
lfontaine said:
I thought the whole point of the BRO was that, if you booked a room under this, you would get the best rate available for that room. And it doesn't even have to be an AP rate. If a general public code were made available, it would automatically applied to your reservation.

Ok unless the policy has changed this is the reply that I got from Disney concerning this........

Dear Cheryl,

Thank you for contacting the Walt Disney World® Resort.

Please know that the Passholder "Best Rate Program" is a discounted offer and is not rack rate.

If a guest makes any type of reservation and wishes to apply a discount at a later time, the
discount is not guaranteed.

There are no automatic or guaranteed conversion to
discounts on reservations once made. Special offers are
offered on a first-come, first-served basis and are subject to availability.

We appreciate your understanding.

If you have questions or need further assistance, feel free to contact us.

Please include your full name, E-Mail address, and reservation number if applicable on all
correspondence.

Thank you!

Sincerely,

Ronda

WDW Online Communications



Message:
I have a question about the best rate program for passholders, does this
mean that if I book at rack
rate now and a passholder or resident rate comes out that I will
automatically get that rate?
The key words there is *the general public........if they are released at a lower rate to the GENERAL PUBLIC.
If Ap rates are released IMO they are are general public they are for passsholders (which could include the general public) but not all of the general public has an AP.
 
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chyam said:
lfontaine said:
I thought the whole point of the BRO was that, if you booked a room under this, you would get the best rate available for that room. And it doesn't even have to be an AP rate. If a general public code were made available, it would automatically applied to your reservation.

Ok unless the policy has changed this is the reply that I got from Disney concerning this........

Dear Cheryl,

Thank you for contacting the Walt Disney World® Resort.

Please know that the Passholder "Best Rate Program" is a discounted offer and is not rack rate.

If a guest makes any type of reservation and wishes to apply a discount at a later time, the
discount is not guaranteed.

There are no automatic or guaranteed conversion to
discounts on reservations once made. Special offers are
offered on a first-come, first-served basis and are subject to availability.

We appreciate your understanding.

If you have questions or need further assistance, feel free to contact us.

Please include your full name, E-Mail address, and reservation number if applicable on all
correspondence.

Thank you!

Sincerely,

Ronda

WDW Online Communications



Message:
I have a question about the best rate program for passholders, does this
mean that if I book at rack
rate now and a passholder or resident rate comes out that I will
automatically get that rate?
The key words there is *the general public........if they are released at a lower rate to the GENERAL PUBLIC.
If Ap rates are released IMO they are are general public they are for passsholders (which could include the general public) but not all of the general public has an AP.


maybe I'm misunderstanding, but the way I'm reading it you asked about booking at rack rate not, the Best Rate Program
 
Mamu said:
I sure hope Disney releases AP rates for October soon. With each passing day I become more upset. I*excepted my fate until last week when the 60 day deadline came out. Shut out of the 120 day rate because it was a last minute trip, but hoping for an AP rate, now shut out again.

I'll keep my rack rate ressie for a while, but am thinking of maybe staying DTD. For what I'm paying I could have a one bedroom, with free breakfast, rent a car and still have extra money.

We are in exactly the same boat - missed the 120 day deadline by one day and now just missed the 60 day deadline as well. Resigned to the fact that we just won't be getting an AP rate this October. Our flights are booked and paid for and we'll still stay on-site (at a value instead of the deluxe we were considering if we got a good rate) - Disney loses out!

We'll just not bother to get AP's next year if this is the way Disney repays our loyalty.
 
lfontaine said:
I thought the whole point of the BRO was that, if you booked a room under this, you would get the best rate available for that room. And it doesn't even have to be an AP rate. If a general public code were made available, it would automatically applied to your reservation.

From the WDW/annualpass website:
"Now Passholders booking a Disney Resort room online under the Passholder Best Rate Program at disneyworld.com/passholders can rest easy knowing they have received our best room rate offered to the general public* at that time for the room and nights booked. And, if we subsequently reduce our room rate to the general public for the same room and nights you booked online under this Program, we will automatically reduce your room rate to match that lower rate."

That is not what it is saying, it is saying if they reduce the room
rates to the general public. That is not the same as saying if a general public code is offered, or AAA, or group sales is.

They would have to basically reduce rates that are available to the general public. Best Rate is lower than what is offered to the general public.

Best Rate bookings will not be automatically reduced unless all rates to everyone, (general public) are reduced.
 





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