10 Items or.....

cornflake

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Argh!

I was in Whole Foods earlier tonight, and they've revamped the line system (it's the busiest WF in the City by far, the place is like the Calcutta airport), so there are now 9 available lines for express registers instead of six, and they reversed where the express and regular lines were.

So, logically, they put giant, new signs showing people where to go.

The giant new signs read:

11 Items or more

and

10 Items or less.

Why?! Whole Foods was one of the very few stores that had signs that said "10 items or fewer." How did they manage to go from correct to incorrect? Though I do appreciate the mathematical specificity.

I stopped at the customer service desk, as it was between the registers and the exits, and asked, and the guy pointed me to the people he said were in charge of such things. I went to ask them, though I doubted they were in charge of creating the giant, printed signage, as they appeared to be floor managers. The one I approached, however, as soon as I said, "I know it's a minor issue, but your old signs said '10 items or fewer and now..." interjected, "yeah, they're wrong, right?"

I said they were; she said she's a substitute teacher when she's not at the WF and mentioned it to the people in charge as soon as she saw them hanging the new signs. She said she has no idea why they switched or who decided to go from right to wrong but that I wasn't the only one who'd noticed and she'll bring it up again. It's comforting to know other people noticed but still... WHY!? How?! What happened to the person who knew the correct word between the previous signs and these? Was he or she killed by a rogue melon and now no one who knows basic grammar is left? Why, WF, why?!
 
So, obviously you are smarter than I am....:rotfl:

what is incorrect about 10 items or less? - I ask this because you have the word less in bold.

Or am I missing what you are talking about?
 
Argh!

I was in Whole Foods earlier tonight, and they've revamped the line system (it's the busiest WF in the City by far, the place is like the Calcutta airport), so there are now 9 available lines for express registers instead of six, and they reversed where the express and regular lines were.

So, logically, they put giant, new signs showing people where to go.

The giant new signs read:

11 Items or more

and

10 Items or less.

Why?! Whole Foods was one of the very few stores that had signs that said "10 items or fewer." How did they manage to go from correct to incorrect? Though I do appreciate the mathematical specificity.

I stopped at the customer service desk, as it was between the registers and the exits, and asked, and the guy pointed me to the people he said were in charge of such things. I went to ask them, though I doubted they were in charge of creating the giant, printed signage, as they appeared to be floor managers. The one I approached, however, as soon as I said, "I know it's a minor issue, but your old signs said '10 items or fewer and now..." interjected, "yeah, they're wrong, right?"

I said they were; she said she's a substitute teacher when she's not at the WF and mentioned it to the people in charge as soon as she saw them hanging the new signs. She said she has no idea why they switched or who decided to go from right to wrong but that I wasn't the only one who'd noticed and she'll bring it up again. It's comforting to know other people noticed but still... WHY!? How?! What happened to the person who knew the correct word between the previous signs and these? Was he or she killed by a rogue melon and now no one who knows basic grammar is left? Why, WF, why?!

More likely (s)he went on a fast food binge. The artificial ingredients fried the grammar section in his/her brain.
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Sorry! I should've explained, given how ubiquitous the incorrect usage is (as demonstrated by how rare '10 items or fewer' is on signage!). :lmao:

'Fewer' is for things you can count, it's a measure of items; 'less' is for things you cannot, it's a measure of volume.

For instance - you'd like fewer cups of coffee, but less coffee in your cup. If it's something you can count, it's fewer, something you cannot, less.

Using 'less' for items is as wrong as saying 'fill the tub with fewer water,' but people use 'less' for 'fewer' the wrong way so much more often that it doesn't sound as wrong to people as using 'fewer' for 'less,' which people don't tend to do.

All the '10 items or less' signs are grammatically incorrect, as items are countable things. The signs should read '10 items or fewer.' Whole Foods was one of the few places that used to use the correct word in their signage. Somehow, now, they've reverted to using the wrong one.
 
I am not going to lie and will say that I had to look up what the issue with this was. I have NEVER heard of this during my 17 years of schooling. I actually found this while I was Googling:

http://motivatedgrammar.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/10-items-or-less-is-just-fine/


That being said, stuff like this isn't even a blip on my radar.

Different things bug different people. :confused3 I'm sure there's something gets your goat that leaves mine sitting calmly in the barn. This type of thing drives me bananapants.

There was a construction site down the street from me a while ago, for near a year, with a giant orange sign that said "DRIVER'S ENTER HERE." It made me twitchy every time I passed the stupid thing. I still can't grasp how a big sign gets designed, ordered, printed, delivered, hung, etc., and no one sees that error or bothers to correct it. Bananapants, I tell you.
 
Cornflake, you must go bat **** crazy reading message boards wheres grammer ain't allways wright. ;)
 
Cornflake, you must go bat **** crazy reading message boards wheres grammer ain't allways wright. ;)

Typos in posts aren't so bad. What drives me crazy is when it's in a thread title and even after the OP comes back a few times over several hours or days and can see :magnify: there is a typo and still doesn't correct it. :headache:
 
Typos in posts aren't so bad. What drives me crazy is when it's in a thread title and even after the OP comes back a few times over several hours or days and can see :magnify: there is a typo and still doesn't correct it. :headache:

That is pretty bad, but what is even worse for me is when someone uses an idiom that they've clearly never seen written down before (or at least not written down correctly :laughing:). Two of my favorites - "beckon call" and "baited breath" (don't stand too close to me!). :rotfl:
 
That is pretty bad, but what is even worse for me is when someone uses an idiom that they've clearly never seen written down before (or at least not written down correctly :laughing:). Two of my favorites - "beckon call" and "baited breath" (don't stand too close to me!). :rotfl:

I enjoy "walla!" "sike," and "for all intensive purposes." Do not get me started on 'I don't want to loose the job....'

I can't with people, honestly. Bananapants. :drinking1
 
I enjoy "walla!" "sike," and "for all intensive purposes." Do not get me started on 'I don't want to loose the job....'

I can't with people, honestly. Bananapants. :drinking1

Some people take grammer for granite.
 
Argh!

I was in Whole Foods earlier tonight, and they've revamped the line system (it's the busiest WF in the City by far, the place is like the Calcutta airport), so there are now 9 available lines for express registers instead of six, and they reversed where the express and regular lines were.

So, logically, they put giant, new signs showing people where to go.

The giant new signs read:

11 Items or more

and

10 Items or less.

Why?! Whole Foods was one of the very few stores that had signs that said "10 items or fewer." How did they manage to go from correct to incorrect? Though I do appreciate the mathematical specificity.

I stopped at the customer service desk, as it was between the registers and the exits, and asked, and the guy pointed me to the people he said were in charge of such things. I went to ask them, though I doubted they were in charge of creating the giant, printed signage, as they appeared to be floor managers. The one I approached, however, as soon as I said, "I know it's a minor issue, but your old signs said '10 items or fewer and now..." interjected, "yeah, they're wrong, right?"

I said they were; she said she's a substitute teacher when she's not at the WF and mentioned it to the people in charge as soon as she saw them hanging the new signs. She said she has no idea why they switched or who decided to go from right to wrong but that I wasn't the only one who'd noticed and she'll bring it up again. It's comforting to know other people noticed but still... WHY!? How?! What happened to the person who knew the correct word between the previous signs and these? Was he or she killed by a rogue melon and now no one who knows basic grammar is left? Why, WF, why?!

Wait a minute....does this mean that if I have 9 items, I'm not allowed to go in any line except the express? :laughing:

I've never seen an express lane that said anything but "X items or less" before (12 at my grocery store, 20 at Wal-Mart). I have a college degree, but not in English, and 12 or less doesn't seem incorrect to me. :confused3
 
'Fewer' is for things you can count, it's a measure of items; 'less' is for things you cannot, it's a measure of volume.

For instance - you'd like fewer cups of coffee, but less coffee in your cup. If it's something you can count, it's fewer, something you cannot, less.

Using 'less' for items is as wrong as saying 'fill the tub with fewer water,' but people use 'less' for 'fewer' the wrong way so much more often that it doesn't sound as wrong to people as using 'fewer' for 'less,' which people don't tend to do.

All the '10 items or less' signs are grammatically incorrect, as items are countable things. The signs should read '10 items or fewer.' Whole Foods was one of the few places that used to use the correct word in their signage. Somehow, now, they've reverted to using the wrong one.

;) Guess you can learn something new every day. I'm an old lady (just ask my kids) and this is the first time I've ever heard this!
 
That is pretty bad, but what is even worse for me is when someone uses an idiom that they've clearly never seen written down before (or at least not written down correctly :laughing:). Two of my favorites - "beckon call" and "baited breath" (don't stand too close to me!). :rotfl:

I enjoy "walla!" "sike," and "for all intensive purposes." Do not get me started on 'I don't want to loose the job....'

I can't with people, honestly. Bananapants. :drinking1

How about "tow the line", sorry, where are you going to take it?
 
irregardless............................... :lmao: :lmao: oh man that hurt to type!




OP I never thought about the difference between less and fewer. I can't wait to show up my DD 13 (she who knows it all:rolleyes:) the next time we are at the grocery store! bwahahahaha :rolleyes1
 
A string walks into a bar. The bartender says, "We don't serve strings in this bar. Get lost!"
The string is very sad as he walks outside. He finds an old bottle cap on the sidewalk and begins shredding himself to pieces with it.
When he walks back into the bar, the bartender bellows, "Aren't you that string I just threw out of here?"
The string straightens himself up, looks the bartender square in the eye and replies,
"No sir, I'm a frayed knot."

I couldn't resist!
 

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