05/09/2009 May 9, 2009 7-Night Eastern St Maarten... Watch Out!

I'm going to offer a different perspective...cuz that's how I roll. I am from CA originally so I had a lot of Disneyland time. I never got to WDW January of 2008 and I immediately fell in love with it. BUT there is still a lot to recommend Disneyland...if you can get past the fact that it's not WDW. Here are some thoughts:
- DL is the original - you really haven't seen Disney history until you actually get out to Anaheim and see where the history happened. If you go there and read the book Mouse Tales, you'll be more amazed than ever at what Walt and Roy accomplished.
- Downtown Disney and Disney California Adventure have fleshed out the experience somewhat, but it is never going to be the vacation overload of WDW. Taken as a whole DL, DCA, and Downtown Disney are a great 3-4 day trip. If you plan for more than that, it should be because you are experiencing the surrounding attractions, not because you want to spend a week at Disneyland.
- DL has some things that WDW just doesn't - Indiana Jones is a great ride that only exists at DL, Pirates and Small World are better experiences at DL, The Matterhorn, Disney's original thrill ride, is only at DL. Also, the 'behind-the-scenes stuff is amazing: Walt's original apartment on Main St. with the light still on for him, Club 33, etc. Can't beat it.
- The hotels are definitely NOT up to WDW par. But that's actually part of the attraction to DL. Since you're not going to consider spending over $200/night at DL, you are free to take advantage of one of the REALLY close multitude of smaller hotels (we loved the Anabella - free breakfast and large rooms) that are less expensive and make the trip more about the parks. The Grand Californian is the best of the hotels, but for kids my age, it's a 'visit but don't stay there' since they won't appreciate the theme...it's not really as joyful as say Boardwalk or as adventurous as Animal Kingdom Lodge. But it's a great hotel with great dining and they are buliding DVC villas in it.
- Disney's California Adventure is the least impressive of all Disney parks...however, that actually makes it one of the most accessible. being able to hop across the plaza from DL to DCA and have a glass of wine on the patio overlooking the Paradise Pier area is really a treat after a long day at DL. Also, don't forget they are renovating, they've already opened Toy Story Mania, and they have Soarin' and Tower of Terror as well. It's like a condensed amalgam of the adult experience of Epcot and the mishmosh experience of Hollywood Studios. Definitely buy Park Hopper tix though so you don't feel like you have to spend an entire day at DCA. It's better if you do that park maybe in 3 hour increments for two days. That covers it all and gives you that break from DL.
- Finally, something that WDW can't compete with - Southern California. Orlando is only interesting because of the parks...and I LOVE it for that. I'd move there tomorrow no matter how much I hate Florida. But nothing can beat SoCal. Beaches, more theme parks (Universal, Knott's Berry Farm, San Diego if you want to go further afield), terrific shopping and dining.
In short, if you recognize that WDW is the most unique experience out there and take Disneyland for what it really is - a great global idea executed on a regional scale - you'll have a great time.

Regarding the age of kids - I used to be of the exact same mindset as you, dollysmom. But after a particularly stressful time a couple of years back, my wife convinced me to go to DL with our then 3 and 1 1/2 year old. Best decision ever. They BOTH loved it. What we forget is that Disney Channel and Disney DVD have ensured that every child no knows the characters much better than we ever did growing up. My daughters couldn't get enough of the princesses...and eventually the Pirates and Splash Mountain...and we became a DVC family and they look forward to each and every trip SOO much. You just have to be self-policing and be willing to break away from your plans to allow them the rest they need and you'll be fine. And nothing beats watching them enjoy the character dining and that mix of joy and fear in their eyes as you approach a big drop...any big drop. I love Disney more than ever for bringing that kind of joy to my daughters!

I hope this helps and if you have any specific questions feel free to ask.
Sometimes I don't mind talking Disney - you're usually safe asking on days that end in 'y'.

I have to agree with Jeremy on this one! I'm from Cali as well (well kinda...long story), so I've been to DL numerous times (can't remember how many) and it is my favorite place!! I have to say that I like it even more than WDW. :love: But then it could be also cuz I kinda grew up with it. It's definitely smaller scale than WDW, but it's really nice to be able to just walk from from one park to the other or even from the hotel your staying at. No buses to worry about! ;) The Indy ride is awesome and I like the fact that my favorite rides- Tower of Terror, Pirates, Soarin' are all there within walking distance of each other instead of being all spread out like WDW.

Anyway...just thought I'd share my 2 cents. ;)
 
Thanks Scottie:

I went to page 98 but I don't see my name and room #'s, Maybe I misunderstood. Please let me know...

Thanks
 
Not sure if anyone (other then Kristen) had a chance to read the chicken pox thread on the main board….that is some lively reading!
:surfweb:

Ok ok I didn't want to say anything but I just couldn't believe that someone who made a choose not to vaccinate their Kids had the right to call DCL and tell them about the post on the board. I just didn't think it was right! I hope that I didn't offend anyone and I promise that If I knew for sure that my child was sick and that she could pass it to someone else I would not take her on the cruise, BUT the OP has no clue if her DD has CP and I hope that if she did she would have a back up plan and not go on the cruise. But again They made the choice not to vaccinate and now they have to deal with others who MAY OR MAY NOT be sick everyday and anywhere that they go!
 
Thanks Scottie:

I went to page 98 but I don't see my name and room #'s, Maybe I misunderstood. Please let me know...

Thanks

Sorry about the misunderstanding! What I am doing is anyone who wanted to participate and did NOT make the cutoff will be added to bottom of the list (will post when I get home from work) in RED. Anyone who would like to leave a gift for those who are in red may do so. Anyone who is in red may choose to leave a gift for everyone if they choose to. This was the only way that I could see to make it fair to the ones that made it on the list before the cut off day. I hope that this is ok with everyone..??
 

DisneyMommy1022:
Thanks so much I was scared that we wouldn't be able to particapate and I would disapoint my grand-daughter. No matter what we will go around and bring the gifts that we have to each room. I will make sure that she has something in her bag each day. She is only 4 so she won't know if it came from us or someone else. She is just so excited that I hate for her not to go around the ship and bring the gifts that we have for the kids...
Thanks alot for all of your help with this.

DisneyKricket...
Here is our information
Room 2598
DM - Stacey
DD - Kevin
Daughter- Allie (4)
Room 2600
Myself the disney Gramie - Linda
and the Disney Great Grand Ma - Alice

Thanks so much we are looking forward to meeting and taking to all of you
Disney Kricket
 
Sorry about the misunderstanding! What I am doing is anyone who wanted to participate and did NOT make the cutoff will be added to bottom of the list (will post when I get home from work) in RED. Anyone who would like to leave a gift for those who are in red may do so. Anyone who is in red may choose to leave a gift for everyone if they choose to. This was the only way that I could see to make it fair to the ones that made it on the list before the cut off day. I hope that this is ok with everyone..??

THAT is a great idea, Kristen. I know there are a few of us who have already planned to include Kricket and Dilma, but no one should feel pressure to do so. I think doing it your way makes the whole thing very democratic. Nicely done.
Slightly unrelated - I really can't wait to meet everyone!
 
THAT is a great idea, Kristen. I know there are a few of us who have already planned to include Kricket and Dilma, but no one should feel pressure to do so. I think doing it your way makes the whole thing very democratic. Nicely done.
Slightly unrelated - I really can't wait to meet everyone!

Just wanted to be fair. I sure hope that everyone is ok with this and doesn't call DCL on me or anything...:rotfl2::rotfl2:
 
I hope that I haven't cause a problem with anyone...Allie will be just as happy just giving the gift out to everyone. I will make sure on my end that she has something in her exchange bag everyday. Please I don't want to cause any problems... I don't want any one to feel they have to put something in the FE...Thanks for all of your help...
DisneyKricket
 
Just wanted to be fair. I sure hope that everyone is ok with this and doesn't call DCL on me or anything...:rotfl2::rotfl2:

A++ for effort! You have been an excellent FE Administrator, and I do agree including the late sailors on the list for those who wish to join in is a great idea! :thumbsup2
 
I hope that I haven't cause a problem with anyone...Allie will be just as happy just giving the gift out to everyone. I will make sure on my end that she has something in her exchange bag everyday. Please I don't want to cause any problems... I don't want any one to feel they have to put something in the FE...Thanks for all of your help...
DisneyKricket

No its fine don't worry about it at all!!!!! I was being sarcastic ( Chicken Pox post on main board)!!! I'm sure you will find many gifts in your FE from all of the people on this board!!
 
DisneyMommy1022:
Thanks so much I was scared that we wouldn't be able to particapate and I would disapoint my grand-daughter. No matter what we will go around and bring the gifts that we have to each room. I will make sure that she has something in her bag each day. She is only 4 so she won't know if it came from us or someone else. She is just so excited that I hate for her not to go around the ship and bring the gifts that we have for the kids...
Thanks alot for all of your help with this.

DisneyKricket...
Here is our information
Room 2598
DM - Stacey
DD - Kevin
Daughter- Allie (4)
Room 2600
Myself the disney Gramie - Linda
and the Disney Great Grand Ma - Alice

Thanks so much we are looking forward to meeting and taking to all of you
Disney Kricket

Just wanted to confirm, will both of your rooms be participating? Wasn’t sure if we should plan to find an FE on one door or both?
 
I am sorry Scottie:
It will be just room 2598 my grand-daughters room... We have already asked way to much to be put on the FE List. I am very grateful. Next time we take the Disney Cruise I know to pay more attention to everything. This is my first Disney Cruise. I just want Allie to have a Wonderful and Memory making trip... Thanks so much I am truly grateful for letting me add Allie's Room. I totally agree with Kristen. It is not fair to everyone else. Thanks for everything... we look forward to meeting everyone in a couple of weeks.
Disney Kricket
 
Ok ok I didn't want to say anything but I just couldn't believe that someone who made a choose not to vaccinate their Kids had the right to call DCL and tell them about the post on the board. I just didn't think it was right! I hope that I didn't offend anyone and I promise that If I knew for sure that my child was sick and that she could pass it to someone else I would not take her on the cruise, BUT the OP has no clue if her DD has CP and I hope that if she did she would have a back up plan and not go on the cruise. But again They made the choice not to vaccinate and now they have to deal with others who MAY OR MAY NOT be sick everyday and anywhere that they go!

Agreed! Can't believe they notified DCL! It wasn't like the OP was saying that she was gonna take her kid on the cruise no matter what, even if she had CP...
 
I am sorry Scottie:
It will be just room 2598 my grand-daughters room... We have already asked way to much to be put on the FE List. I am very grateful. Next time we take the Disney Cruise I know to pay more attention to everything. This is my first Disney Cruise. I just want Allie to have a Wonderful and Memory making trip... Thanks so much I am truly grateful for letting me add Allie's Room. I totally agree with Kristen. It is not fair to everyone else. Thanks for everything... we look forward to meeting everyone in a couple of weeks.
Disney Kricket

No need to apologize... happy to have you aboard and will keep our eyes open for 2598 when heading out with our FE gifts! :goodvibes
 
Ok ok I didn't want to say anything but I just couldn't believe that someone who made a choose not to vaccinate their Kids had the right to call DCL and tell them about the post on the board. I just didn't think it was right! I hope that I didn't offend anyone and I promise that If I knew for sure that my child was sick and that she could pass it to someone else I would not take her on the cruise, BUT the OP has no clue if her DD has CP and I hope that if she did she would have a back up plan and not go on the cruise. But again They made the choice not to vaccinate and now they have to deal with others who MAY OR MAY NOT be sick everyday and anywhere that they go!

I agree we all the the right to make our own choices (about shots) But I think this lady is way out of line. The mom is not asking for advise on how to sneak her daughter on IF she gets it. I truly believe if her daughter ends up getting cp before the cruise, she will not go. They already make back up hotel reservations.
 
Scottie: I just notice that you live in Columbus Ohio my brother's oldest son and his family lives in Grove City. there last name is Yoho Its a Small World After All...
Thanks
DisneyKricket
 
No its fine don't worry about it at all!!!!! I was being sarcastic ( Chicken Pox post on main board)!!! I'm sure you will find many gifts in your FE from all of the people on this board!!

Yes - No worries whatsoever - we're all mellow and fun-loving! At least that's how I appear over the interweb thingie...:surfweb::hippie:
In reality, I'm a manic not a mousic! :mickeyjum
 

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