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[KAT4DISNEY]

Hello everyone!

My other half and I are in the process of seriously mulling over a CCV purchase as new DVC members (so in other words, this would be our first purchase).

It's now the end of November 2017, and our "guide" is telling us that the only use year that we can purchase is June. Unfortunately, from everything we've researched about use years, it looks like a September or October use year would be idea for our travel-planning patterns.

From the seasoned experts on this board, what do you think we should do? Is there a rhyme or reason to how DVC sells use years?

Thanks much

Tell them the UY you want and that you will not buy if June is it. And if they won't then call and ask for a new guide.

 

[RRB]

Tell them the UY you want and that you will not buy if June is it. And if they won't then call and ask for a new guide.

Just to make sure you understand the terminology - the "use year" is when points renew every year and you receive the next years point allotment. It doesn't have have anything to do with when you can make a reservation (as long as you have points in your account to use or borrow). If you purchase at CC, you can make a reservation 11 months out any time of the year at CC regardless of your use year. Just making sure you understand this.

 

[sventopia]

Just to make sure you understand the terminology - the "use year" is when points renew every year and you receive the next years point allotment. It doesn't have have anything to do with when you can make a reservation (as long as you have points in your account to use or borrow). If you purchase at CC, you can make a reservation 11 months out any time of the year at CC regardless of your use year. Just making sure you understand this.

Thanks, KAT!

Use Years are confusing for newbies but I've learned a lot from reading these forums. My family reliably takes a trip every year in November, so my understanding is that having a UY in October would be ideal, as that would then give us a May 31st date to bank our points and the maximum flexibility in the event that we would need to cancel the November trip within the 30-day window.

Anyway... it has surprised how a lot of folks on the boards have been throwing shade on the CCV rooms and the decor. We really like them and are excited about them.

 

[sleepydog25]

Thanks, KAT!

Use Years are confusing for newbies but I've learned a lot from reading these forums. My family reliably takes a trip every year in November, so my understanding is that having a UY in October would be ideal, as that would then give us a May 31st date to bank our points and the maximum flexibility in the event that we would need to cancel the November trip within the 30-day window.

Anyway... it has surprised how a lot of folks on the boards have been throwing shade on the CCV rooms and the decor. We really like them and are excited about them.

As you've seen, asking questions and getting good guidance from "oldies" (is that the opposite of newbies?) can be of huge importance. Unfortunately, too many don't do their research ahead of time and wind up not knowing exactly what they're getting into. You, obviously, are avoiding that pitfall. As others have mentioned, it's important to realize that the UY only matters in terms of maximizing flexibility in terms of cancelling, rebooking, etc., not in terms of when you can book: 11 months home resort, 7 months non-home.

If you looked around a bit, I'm certain you'd find detractors for all the resorts. Most have their favorites and their "less" favorites. Traditionally, the resort getting the least amount of love is SSR, but you will find devotees to that resort, as well. There is a resort for everyone's taste which is one reason DVC is successful. For every person who doesn't like the fact that CC has smaller rooms and sees blandness, there is someone who adores the look and location. In the past, one of the biggest knocks against my home resort, VWL, is that the rooms and look of the Lodge were too dark and woodsy. Those are the very factors that made me fall in love with the place! All that to say, if you love CC, and the guide will give you the UY you want, and you decide to ultimately buy into DVC, don't worry about the detractors. "Buy where you want to stay" still remains the primary mantra. When you're sitting in the Lodge, enjoying the best holiday decorations at the World, and you were able to book that room at 11 months, you can smile broadly and chuckle at your good fortune.

 

[Granny]

If you looked around a bit, I'm certain you'd find detractors for all the resorts.

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Thanks, KAT!

Use Years are confusing for newbies but I've learned a lot from reading these forums. My family reliably takes a trip every year in November, so my understanding is that having a UY in October would be ideal, as that would then give us a May 31st date to bank our points and the maximum flexibility in the event that we would need to cancel the November trip within the 30-day window.

You seem to have a strong grasp of the UY concept, and your logic is flawless. What I will add to this is that you are buying 50 years of vacations, and more than likely you will change the patterns and timing of trips during the course of your ownership. The key question is...how many times do you think you will have to cancel a trip within 30 days of travelling? If you have a job that makes this a strong possibility then DVC is possibly not a great purchase for you.

I think UY is somewhat important, but I'll say that I have two contracts with two use years (February & October) and haven't run into many issues during our 16 years of ownership. But I also agree that you should get what you want from Disney, and not just what they are "pushing" at any given time.

Anyway... it has surprised how a lot of folks on the boards have been throwing shade on the CCV rooms and the decor. We really like them and are excited about them.

I've come to realize over the years that public forums like these allow people to be negative, and sometimes rude, with the anonymity of internet posting. Just keep in mind that there are certainly different strokes for different folks. And that there is a huge discrepancy between opinions and fact. I think CCV is another great DVC resort!

 

[sleepydog25]

I've come to realize over the years that public forums like these allow people to be negative, and sometimes rude, with the anonymity of internet posting. Just keep in mind that there are certainly different strokes for different folks. And that there is a huge discrepancy between opinions and fact. I think CCV is another great DVC resort!

This is great commentary and spot on, Granny.

 

[sventopia]

Thanks again for the karma, everyone!

We have already established a pretty predictable WDW vacation cadence even before our daughter was born. We tried so hard to resist the Rat. Honest. But things just happen and every other year in early to mid-November we find ourselves at one of the deluxe resorts having a great time. Then we go home and pretend we're not Disney people.

Then, two years ago our daughter was born on Mickey's birthday and, well...

So we're thinking that a modest toe-dipping into DVC might not be a bad idea. We've seen the DVC rooms at PVB and VGF and are trying to learn all of the other TLAs, but as I said earlier, we just really love the layout and decor and ambience of CCV, so we might be good candidates. But with that said, we're grown-ups and have no illusions about the Disney Corporation. Reading these forums has been great, and I greatly appreciate everyone's advice and support. Thanks again.

 

[RRB]

Thanks again for the karma, everyone!

We have already established a pretty predictable WDW vacation cadence even before our daughter was born. We tried so hard to resist the Rat. Honest. But things just happen and every other year in early to mid-November we find ourselves at one of the deluxe resorts having a great time. Then we go home and pretend we're not Disney people.

Then, two years ago our daughter was born on Mickey's birthday and, well...

So we're thinking that a modest toe-dipping into DVC might not be a bad idea. We've seen the DVC rooms at PVB and VGF and are trying to learn all of the other TLAs, but as I said earlier, we just really love the layout and decor and ambience of CCV, so we might be good candidates. But with that said, we're grown-ups and have no illusions about the Disney Corporation. Reading these forums has been great, and I greatly appreciate everyone's advice and support. Thanks again.

Of course the great thing about DVC is that you can stay anywhere you want and try all the different resorts. As Sleepy said, they're all different not only in their design and personality but their locations as well. Since 1997, we have stayed at every DVC Resort except Hilton Head, Grand Californian and Aulani. We enjoyed them all.

 

[disneynutz]

Thanks, KAT!

Use Years are confusing for newbies but I've learned a lot from reading these forums. My family reliably takes a trip every year in November, so my understanding is that having a UY in October would be ideal, as that would then give us a May 31st date to bank our points and the maximum flexibility in the event that we would need to cancel the November trip within the 30-day window.

Anyway... it has surprised how a lot of folks on the boards have been throwing shade on the CCV rooms and the decor. We really like them and are excited about them.

Just checked out of CCV and we wanted to like the decor but I don't. A mishmash of different wood grains and other strange elements. A semi modern, semi contemporary design place in the shell of wilderness. The restroom counters are loud and out of place, there is a fake metal support angle iron above the kitchen cabinets and the floors are very slippery so be careful.

Bill

 

[minorthr]

Hello everyone!

My other half and I are in the process of seriously mulling over a CCV purchase as new DVC members (so in other words, this would be our first purchase).

It's now the end of November 2017, and our "guide" is telling us that the only use year that we can purchase is June. Unfortunately, from everything we've researched about use years, it looks like a September or October use year would be idea for our travel-planning patterns.

From the seasoned experts on this board, what do you think we should do? Is there a rhyme or reason to how DVC sells use years?

Thanks much

I just bought CCV april use year 3 hours ago so Id suggest you get another guide. they also banked the 2017 points for us.

 

[anitatina]

I'll be staying at CCV for the first time in October 2018 with my husband, infant daughter, mom, and in-laws! It'll be our first time staying at WDW as DVC owners. Actually, it'll also be our first time setting foot in WL too! Sounds kind of crazy, but I fell in love with all the pictures and videos I've seen so far of the property

I've only stayed at WDW for 4-5 days at a time, but we booked for an entire week this upcoming vacation. I'm looking forward to some downtime for once and not rushing everywhere to see and do everything. Perks of being a DVC owner

 

[Granny]

I'll be staying at CCV for the first time in October 2018 with my husband, infant daughter, mom, and in-laws! It'll be our first time staying at WDW as DVC owners. Actually, it'll also be our first time setting foot in WL too! Sounds kind of crazy, but I fell in love with all the pictures and videos I've seen so far of the property

I've only stayed at WDW for 4-5 days at a time, but we booked for an entire week this upcoming vacation. I'm looking forward to some downtime for once and not rushing everywhere to see and do everything. Perks of being a DVC owner

I'm sure you will really enjoy WL and CCV next October. And I think you will find that staying an entire week will allow you to relax more. You are quite correct...DVC ownership improved our vacations immensely because we never worry about missing something knowing we'll be back relatively soon. Be careful though...once you do a full week you'll find it hard to go back to commando park touring on a shorter stay!

 

[anitatina]

I'm sure you will really enjoy WL and CCV next October. And I think you will find that staying an entire week will allow you to relax more. You are quite correct...DVC ownership improved our vacations immensely because we never worry about missing something knowing we'll be back relatively soon. Be careful though...once you do a full week you'll find it hard to go back to commando park touring on a shorter stay!

Yes! And I can actually enjoy the grounds of the resort which has never happened during previous WDW trips. I am already dreaming of lounging by the pool(s) on an "off" day from the parks.

I was curious and looked up the rack rate for staying at CCV in a 2BR on the dates I'm traveling. I can't believe the price is just a few dollars short of $8000! That sounds astronomical. So happy with my decision to buy DVC! We paid about 4 times that rack rate to buy into DVC direct, but we get to enjoy years and years of stays versus just one week.

 

[sleepydog25]

Yes! And I can actually enjoy the grounds of the resort which has never happened during previous WDW trips. I am already dreaming of lounging by the pool(s) on an "off" day from the parks.

I was curious and looked up the rack rate for staying at CCV in a 2BR on the dates I'm traveling. I can't believe the price is just a few dollars short of $8000! That sounds astronomical. So happy with my decision to buy DVC! We paid about 4 times that rack rate to buy into DVC direct, but we get to enjoy years and years of stays versus just one week.

As Granny says, DVC changes the way most people vacation. While we still often hit the parks for morning EMH or rope drop, we no longer attempt to do an entire day in a given park. We'll hit a park early, wander back to the resort, then perhaps do afternoon FPs before again heading back to our resort to freshen up for dinner. If we can't do a ride, or do one of our favorites more than once, we don't have great angst since we know our next trip won't be too far in the future. We plan pool days now almost as religiously as we do FPs. Besides, as the tickets continue to rise astronomically, we foresee spending even more time at our resort and perhaps Downtown Disney.

By the way, congratulations on your first trip as DVC owners, as well as your first stay at WL. We're obviously biased, but it's our favorite resort: relaxing, quieter than most, and with an architecture that will "wow" you. Between the theming, the majestic music, and the soothing ambiance, you may find yourself falling in love with the place as we have. #1 TIP: Have your video recording as you pull onto Timberline Drive and as you pull up to the resort check-in area. It will bring a smile to your face. Even more importantly, make sure you have your video going as you walk into the main lobby for the first time--it never fails to amaze me and make me feel at home at the same time. Be sure to catch the looks on the faces of your family! They'll be priceless.

 

[BillPA]

With a 2 year old, you may someday be taking your vacations in the summer. If that is a likely possibility June is a great UY. June UY has worked fine for us since 1993.

 

[bobbiwoz]

My sister was told our cabin is ready and the fireworks music will be piped in!

We are still in NJ, I had doctor visit this morning. My foot is healing as it should!

I called DVC this morning to be sure my sister could check in before we got there, and she is over the moon about being there already and having cabin ready before 1!!!

 

[RRB]

My sister was told our cabin is ready and the fireworks music will be piped in!

We are still in NJ, I had doctor visit this morning. My foot is healing as it should!

I called DVC this morning to be sure my sister could check in before we got there, and she is over the moon about being there already and having cabin ready before 1!!!

Hi Bobbi, glad to hear about your foot. I can't wait to see pics of that cabin. Do you get there tomorrow? which cabin did you request?

 

[bobbiwoz]

We requested in the 1-12 I think that’s what was suggested.

We get there tonight.

 

[bobbiwoz]

Fireworks view from #8006 are excellent!

 

[RRB]

Fireworks view from #8006 are excellent!

Awesome. So you are in the middle of the west group of cabins? Impressions so far?