BIG change to FP+ today

I don't know why people are complaining about this..
This opens up more times for FP-...
Nobody's forcing you to take part of the test.. With these restrictions regular FP people will have better chances to do their "thing" now..

To some of the people who are upset, this portends a future of no regular fast pass and a possibility of only one headliner with FP+.
 
No I don't think they are doing anything but testing.. But the fact of the matter is during this particular stage of the testing.. It will indeed free up FP- somewhat.

NO it wont. The problem is they do not have enough FP+ to go around to all the people getting FP+ for Soarin' and TT.

Keep in mind, I'm withholding my opinion until I return from our Thanksgiving trip (same time you'll be there).
 
...... and for some reason some people believe that all change is good. It is entirely possible to change something and end up worse off.

And I'm not doubting that either. I don't think all change is good either. But I do give it a chance before I attack it right from the get go. Which is what has been happening on the DIS since the announcement and implementation of the new FP+
 
But the point is that they will go away with FP-.

So eventually you will have 1 FP for the e-ticket/headliner and everyone will have to wait in long lines over the others.

Some people are ok with that, some are not.

The ones who are not should give Disney feedback so they know. Whether Disney do anything with the complaints is something else. They might care, they might not.
But at least people should speak up.

Where have they said that this will be the norm? They are testing the abilities of the system. Just because they are doing a test of operations doesn't mean this will be the way it is once it's released.
 


NO it wont. The problem is they do not have enough FP+ to go around to all the people getting FP+ for Soarin' and TT.

This might be the case for over the holidays, which could be why they are limiting it, but last week on a Saturday, there were plenty of TT and Soarin' FPs in the morning the day of. I changed our times and rescheduled completely and this was at like 11 or 12 in the afternoon. Plenty available. So I don't think your statement is entirely accurate.
 
NO it wont. The problem is they do not have enough FP+ to go around to all the people getting FP+ for Soarin' and TT.

And you know this how? Was this info released are you just speculating?
 


And you know this how? Was this info released are you just speculating?
Why would Disney want to free up FP- there really is no point. I don't think you need info to realize this FP+ is the thing of the future and they are working towards that.
 
Here's what's angering people: from prior to the start of this millennia up until October 14, 2013, it was possible to collect FPs for TT, Soarin', Mission: SPACE, and Maelstrom all on the same day (I did it quite frequently) thus not have to wait in a long line.

And as of now, you can still do that. You an schedule a FP+ and you can pull paper FPs for the others if you get there at RD.
 
Why would Disney want to free up FP- there really is no point. I don't think you need info to realize this FP+ is the thing of the future and they are working towards that.

You are misreading.. I don't think they are intentionally freeing up FP-, I'm saying its a result of the upcoming test...
 
I thought the very thing people liked about FP+ was that it allowed you to sleep in and not do rope drop.

It was....having to book FP+ and also be there for rope drop to get on rides would be double disney torture.
 
We just got back but has anyone effected by this (during your travel window) called for an explanation?

I think KTP said it is through the end of Dec, and maybe someone else said it showed through 1/5/2014. Is that just how far out you can make your FP+ ressies? Just never paid attention if it is 60 days or what.

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You are misreading.. I don't think they are intentionally freeing up FP-, I'm saying its a result of the upcoming test...

It's definitely a result. Whether it's intended (which I agree it is) or not is irrelevant.
 
Not true. You don't know that. This whole system is ever-evolving and changing daily. Just because they made a change today doesn't mean that's how it will permanently be in the future. Right now you can still get paper FPs. Worry about what you can do today.

If you read the rest of my post you would see that I understand that.

I just mean that it's possible for them to finalize the system the way it is and people who are testing should speak up... good or bad result. That's the point of the test.
 
You are misreading.. I don't think they are intentionally freeing up FP-, I'm saying its a result of the upcoming test...
Personally I think this will work out better for both ways yes it will free up FP- but it will also free up some FP+. I think this will lead to a greater balance I understand the argument. This will create a better balance until FP- is gone.
 
And you know this how? Was this info released are you just speculating?
Because it makes sense. It's a way for Disney to insure people can at least get one headliner attraction scheduled on FP+ during the crushing holiday season.

And I think it's totally disingenuous of people to say that guests should just visit during non-peak times. Unfortunately the majority of people have to visit during holidays and summer peak season, hence the reason the parks are packed during that time.

The true test for FP+ will indeed be the holiday time. It's going to test the infrastructure and the applications.
 
And as of now, you can still do that. You an schedule a FP+ and you can pull paper FPs for the others if you get there at RD.

Okay, let's assume we're going on a moderately crowded day (say, middle of October). If you get there at RD and pull at FP for Soarin' at 9:10am w/ a return time for 12:30pm, you need to wait two hours to get your next which brings you to 11:10am and based on historical records, TT at 10:25am, so you're out of luck. Now if you have the luxury of traveling at times like now, when Space Mountain continuously has a 20 minute wait, you might now run into this problem, but most will. Also, what about re-rides and those who don't want to get up at the crack of dawn? Previously, those people could have done it.
 
Because it makes sense. It's a way for Disney to insure people can at least get one headliner attraction scheduled on FP+ during the crushing holiday season.

And I think it's totally disingenuous of people to say that guests should just visit during non-peak times. Unfortunately the majority of people have to visit during holidays and summer peak season, hence the reason the parks are packed during that time.

The true test for FP+ will indeed be the holiday time. It's going to test the infrastructure and the applications.

ah! Ok so you are speculating.. At this point we could speculate alot of things, but in reality we all know nothing about the intended use right now.
 

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