Explosions at Boston Marathon finish line

[TLSnell1981]

Here is the Criminal Complaint. http://c.o0bg.com/rw/Boston/2011-2020/2013/05/01/BostonGlobe.com/Metro/Graphics/kt_complaint.pdf

None of the information leading to these guys came from Tsarnaev directly; it was his texts. They determined the need to get rid of evidence because of their friendship.

Help out a terrorist? I have no sympathy for these idiots.

There was a photo of these friends on the news earlier. It was the same photo shown in an article about the friend with the Terrorista #1 plate. The article was about how the plate was a souvenir type gift and the timing was just really bad. So yeah, that guy with the plate is one of them.

I think, they've shown extremely bad judgement in more ways than one. But, it kinda shows where their heads are...

 

[foreUT]

There was a photo of these friends on the news earlier. It was the same photo shown in an article about the friend with the Terrorista #1 plate. The article was about how the plate was a souvenir type gift and the timing was just really bad. So yeah, that guy with the plate is one of them.

Not smart, to say the least.

 

[Lorelei Lee]

Yes but that was long before the internet, social media, and 24 hour news.

Yes, but this little girl will probably have her surname changed to her mother's maiden name, which is quite a common name. And a year from now most of us will likely forget the name Tsarnaev anyhow. Oswald was a name that still lives in infamy.

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[Lorelei Lee]

I put my children and their needs first and if I had to place my child with someone else until this madness was over I would absolutely put my own needs behind what I felt was best for them. I am sorry if you can't understand that or feel the same way.

Lots of children are taken away from their parents because of their inability to properly take care of them and I am sure those children love their parents dearly despite the situation. If we looked at it that way many kids would be left in unsafe neglectful homes. If her father was the primary care giver I would be curious to know what kind of neglect or abuse she was exposed to because I honestly can't see how a man who did the things he has could be kind, loving or attentive to anyone even his own child. I never said the parents would not be good care givers but the fact that the the news media has ascended on them like vultures and ave posted many pictures of them, their other daughter, and their granddaughter so they are easily recognizable right now. maybe the little girl could live with other family members until things calm down. If the mother did have any knowledge of this or helped in anyway then she should absolutely lose all rights to her child.

Most women who go to prison do not lose their parental rights. Someone else will have temporary custody. Their kids visit the mom in jail. If a woman gives birth in prison she can keep her baby with her. We only deprive people of their parental rights if they neglect or abuse their children.

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[dogluva]

Lmao it wasn't even close! Good old autocorrect!

Thank you for realizing it was that and not me! Your instead of you're, that was me!

 

[momontheright]

A friend just asked me if one of these guys had the "Terrorista #1" plate on his car?

http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/01/new-boston-suspects-drove-car-with-terrorista-1-license-plates/

Two suspects who have been taken into custody in connection with the Boston Marathon bombings drove a car with Terrorista #13 printed on the front plate.

Azamat Tazhayakov and Dias Kadyrbayev were reportedly arrested, along with one other person, for allegedly making false statements and conspiring to obstruct justice during the federal investigation into Boston Marathon bombing suspects Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, officials said Wednesday.

Tazhayakov and Kadrbayev, who are reportedly in FBI custody, drove around in a black BMW with Terrorista #13 license plates and were also photographed with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in Times Square.

 

[The Mystery Machine]

Anyone else want to call BS?

Once inside Tsarnaev’s room, the men noticed a backpack containing fireworks, which had been opened and emptied of gunpowder, the FBI said. The FBI said that Kadyrbayev knew when he saw the fireworks that Tsarnaev was involved in the bombings and decided to remove the backpack “to help his friend Tsarnaev avoid trouble.”

Kadyrbayev also decided to remove Tsarnaev’s laptop “because he did not want Tsarnaev’s roommate to think he was stealing or behaving suspiciously by just taking the backpack,” the FBI said.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/01/b...uspects-in-custody-in-bombings/#ixzz2S8Ii1YWM

 

[skylizard]

Anyone else want to call BS?

I think there's a very real possibility that these boys know a lot more than we think. It'll be interesting to see what comes out over the next few days.

 

[aaarcher86]

I think there's a very real possibility that these boys know a lot more than we think. It'll be interesting to see what comes out over the next few days.

Agree. The thought process their stories portray doesn't make any sense IMO.

 

[Lorelei Lee]

If they didn't knoe beforehand, they knew after the fact when disposing of the evidencr.

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[robinb]

I can't believe that 3 young college men can really be that STOOPID.

 

[Lorelei Lee]

I can't believe that 3 young college men can really be that STOOPID.

I can believe it.

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[Lorelei Lee]

I don't think many of us can understand how you could possibly want this little girl to not only lose her father (who sounds like he was the primary care giver), but then her mother, too, if the mother is not guilty. And even if she is, I would think the best solution would be for the girl to go to her grandparents. This poor little girl needs as much stability and familiarity as she can get right now.

Exactly. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who agrees with the position that she be removed from her loving family.

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[foreUT]

I saw a clip on ABC.com that the family was considering burying Tamerlan in Boston. IMO, that would be wrong. I can't imagine the people of Boston being comfortable w a grave that will become a shrine for those w the same mindset as the Tsarnaev brothers.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Relevent to last week's discussion here:

Watertown man recalls being stopped by police the night of manhunt for Marathon bombers

http://www.boston.com/yourtown/news/watertown/2013/05/watertown_man_recalls_being_st.html

Snippets:

His photograph was seen around the world: palms pressed against a police cruiser, a gun pointed at the back of his bowed head, standing in the darkness of a night illuminated only by lights from emergency vehicles.

Despite being grabbed from his car, searched, and finally released by police, Phil said he is thankful for their vigilance that terrifying night.

“They were rough, understandably, but they didn’t hurt me,” he said in an interview with the Globe. “I’m thankful for them. They were protecting my neighborhood and protecting my family. I have zero ill will at all.”

Phil said he is grateful to authorities for their actions that night. The same police, who were there to hunt down a suspected terrorist and to prevent any more people from being injured or killed, appeared themselves to be terrified.

“I could see how scared they were in their eyes,” he said. “The military gentlemen, the policemen, everyone was scared.”

“I was so scared and discombobulated, I didn’t know what was going on,” he said.

He estimates he stayed at the car wash for about 45 minutes. EMTs tried to talk to him, but he found himself unable to speak. He thought about his wife and his two-and-a-half-year-old son just a few blocks away. Scared and confused, he was thankful nothing had happened to him. “I just wanted to get home,” he recalled.

Finally, he approached an FBI agent and asked if he would walk him home. He did.

It wasn’t until Phil got home and turned on the television that he found out he had been in the middle of the manhunt, which finally ended Friday evening when Dzhokhar Tsarnaev surrendered after he was spotted hiding in a boat, a few blocks from the car wash.

Phil’s wife, wearing earplugs, was still asleep when he walked in.

“I got home and said, ‘You’re not going to believe what just happened to me.”

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Rudy Giuliani: 3 new suspects 'probably' could have saved MIT officer's life

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog...iuliani-3-new-suspects-probably-could-have-s/

Former New York Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani said Thursday that had the three new suspects tied to the Boston Marathon bombing case come forward earlier, they “probably” could have saved the life of Officer Brian Collier, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology policeman who officials say was killed by one of the two bombing suspects.

“Let’s assume the complaint is true,” Mr. Giuliani said on CNN’s “Starting Point.” “These three men could have prevented the death of Officer Collier, probably. They were aware by 6, 7 o’clock at night [on April 18] that these two guys were the bombers. If they had done what decent young men should do, which is call the police, given the focus of that investigation, given the resources they had in Boston, FBI, Boston police, given how effective they were in investigating, they’d have probably gotten these guys within an hour or two.”

The complaint alleges that Azamat Tazhayakov, Dias Kadyrbayev and Robel Phillipos went to bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s dorm room and removed items on April 18 after one of the three recognized him on television as one of the suspects. Authorities say Collier was shot and killed that night by at least one of the Tsarnaev brothers.

Mr. Giuliani said that as a prosecutor, based on the complaint, he would seek charges relating to the shooting death of Collier, the shooting of transit Officer Richard Donohue, and the kidnapping and carjacking purportedly carried out by Dzokhar Tsarnaev and his older brother, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, that occurred that night.

Mr. Tazhayakov and Mr. Kadyrbayev have been charged with conspiring to obstruct justice, and Mr. Phillipos has been charged with lying to federal investigators.

“Look, you don’t do this just to help a friend,” Mr. Giuliani said. “You don’t help a friend who just killed an eight-year-old boy. You don’t help a friend who just bombed a city. You do this because there’s some kind of ideological connection, there’s some kind of joining of the cause. I don’t accept the fact that they’re just a bunch of three kids who are just helping a friend. Helping a friend who just bombed a city?”

“A consequence of this conspiracy that they joined is the death of a police officer,” he continued. “These men are looking at a long, long time in jail. I’d be seeking 20, 30 years in jail.”

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Quite a bit on the local news tonight:

- The DNA on the bomb was not the wife's, and she has stopped talking to investigators

- Originally the bombers planned to set the bombs off at the 4th of July celebration at the Esplanade, but they finished making the bombs early, so they decided to go forward with their plan on Patriot's Day instead

- Temerans's (?sp) body was released from the Medical Examiner's office to a funeral home in North Attleboro, MA (south of Boston, near the Rhode Island border). A small crowd protested outside the funeral home, saying they did not want his body in their town. The body was since brought somewhere else, but they'r not saying where

- They found the laptop that the students disposed of

 

[kwelch10377]

Quite a bit on the local news tonight:

- The DNA on the bomb was not the wife's, and she has stopped talking to investigators

- Originally the bombers planned to set the bombs off at the 4th of July celebration at the Esplanade, but they finished making the bombs early, so they decided to go forward with their plan on Patriot's Day instead

- Temerans's (?sp) body was released from the Medical Examiner's office to a funeral home in North Attleboro, MA (south of Boston, near the Rhode Island border). A small crowd protested outside the funeral home, saying they did not want his body in their town. The body was since brought somewhere else, but they'r not saying where

- They found the laptop that the students disposed of

I don't think that she knew what was going on, but I don't get why she would stop talking to investigators.

It will be interesting to see what happens to his body. Do Muslims cremate? If so I would think that family would want to have him cremated and hold on to his remains themselves.

 

[robinb]

- Temerans's (?sp) body was released from the Medical Examiner's office to a funeral home in North Attleboro, MA (south of Boston, near the Rhode Island border). A small crowd protested outside the funeral home, saying they did not want his body in their town. The body was since brought somewhere else, but they'r not saying where

I admit that I feel somewhat sorry for his family. They are just doing their duty. His uncle, Ruslan Tsarni, did not agree with Tamerlan's Islamic radicalization but still stepped up to claim his body. That was very brave of him and very .... human. In the face of the inhumanity that Tamerlan was responsible for, Ruslan held true to his own faith and humanity. I know that some of you may not think that Tamerlan's corpse should be treated with such respect, but I have always believed that funerals are for the living and not the dead. This is a way to bury Tamerlan both literally and emotionally for his family. I can't start to imagine what it must be like to have such monsters related to you.

 

[Lorelei Lee]

I admit that I feel somewhat sorry for his family. They are just doing their duty. His uncle, Ruslan Tsarni, did not agree with Tamerlan's Islamic radicalization but still stepped up to claim his body. That was very brave of him and very .... human. In the face of the inhumanity that Tamerlan was responsible for, Ruslan held true to his own faith and humanity. I know that some of you may not think that Tamerlan's corpse should be treated with such respect, but I have always believed that funerals are for the living and not the dead. This is a way to bury Tamerlan both literally and emotionally for his family. I can't start to imagine what it must be like to have such monsters related to you.

Exactly. I feel for his family.

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