Younger generation- spinoff

[Starport Seven-Five]

I agree with your first two points. I disagree with the third. Someone has to pick up the slack from them not doing things that are part of their job but they don't want to do. Usually, it is an older worker. My daughter, at the ancient age of 30 was over yesterday complaining about how a 22 year old trainee was pushing back on doing tasks that are clearly in her job description. So the age difference doesn't have to be huge.

I'm talking more about the "do more with less" and "live to work" corporate culture that many of us have just accepted. A lot of my younger coworkers have no problem giving a solid 45 hours of work but you're not going to get ahold of them at 5pm on a Friday.

 

[CdnCarrie]

I agree with your first two points. I disagree with the third. Someone has to pick up the slack from them not doing things that are part of their job but they don't want to do. Usually, it is an older worker. My daughter, at the ancient age of 30 was over yesterday complaining about how a 22 year old trainee was pushing back on doing tasks that are clearly in her job description. So the age difference doesn't have to be huge.

You really think your daughter is the only one of her generation that doesn’t shirk her duties?
You and her may have had bad experiences with younger employees but that does not mean the whole generation is slacking.
The worst coworker I ever had was when I was in my 30s and she in her 60s. Very strong union supporter and super lazy, would just disappear without telling anyone where she was going.
No one was sad to see her retire.
Personal anecdotes don’t make blanket statements true

 

[tvguy]

I'm talking more about the "do more with less" and "live to work" corporate culture that many of us have just accepted. A lot of my younger coworkers have no problem giving a solid 45 hours of work but you're not going to get ahold of them at 5pm on a Friday.

Yeah, as the person who was responsible for calling people in, not being reachable was maddening. Especially when they are being paid to be on call.

 

[tvguy]

You really think your daughter is the only one of her generation that doesn’t shirk her duties?
You and her may have had bad experiences with younger employees but that does not mean the whole generation is slacking.
The worst coworker I ever had was when I was in my 30s and she in her 60s. Very strong union supporter and super lazy, would just disappear without telling anyone where she was going.
No one was sad to see her retire.
Personal anecdotes don’t make blanket statements true

No, not the only one. But it is amusing how frequently the "stereotype" is the reality.

 

[wenrob]

https://www.disboards.com/threads/what-has-got-more-and-more-annoying-as-you-have-got-older.3860302/

Um, woooow.

I think what a lot them are saying when they say, “Kids have no respect” is really “I don’t want younger people to express their opinion to me or disagree with me” if all the comments about “wokeness” and “cancel culture” that accompany that is anything to go by. Like I said a page back for some that feels threatening. Certainly the Boomer generation and to some extent even the Gen X generation kids were to be seen and not heard.

The no morals thing. I’m not even sure where that comes from unless it refers to the two things we are not allowed to discuss here on the DIS. If that’s the case, again it’s someone feeling threatened by a different point of view.

BTW I’m not insulted by anyone calling me “woke.” I’ll wear that like a badge.

 

[CdnCarrie]

Yeah, as the person who was responsible for calling people in, not being reachable was maddening. Especially when they are being paid to be on call.

No, not the only one. But it is amusing how frequently the "stereotype" is the reality.

well that’s not my experience in the least, I’m going to judge each individual for their own merits not perpetuate a generational stereotype on them.

 

[CdnCarrie]

Um, woooow.

I think what a lot them are saying when they say, “Kids have no respect” is really “I don’t want younger people to express their opinion to me or disagree with me” if all the comments about “wokeness” and “cancel culture” that accompany that is anything to go by. Like I said a page back for some that feels threatening. Certainly the Boomer generation and to some extent even the Gen X generation kids were to be seen and not heard.

The no morals thing. I’m not even sure where that comes from unless it refers to the two things we are not allowed to discuss here on the DIS. If that’s the case, again it’s someone feeling threatened by a different point of view.

BTW I’m not insulted by anyone calling me “woke.” I’ll wear that like a badge.

I’m so glad you understand where I’m coming from!

maybe lack of morals = they don’t demonstrate the morality I think they should?

woke to me = changing the old guard ; awareness of needing change - so sign me up!

 

[tvguy]

well that’s not my experience in the least, I’m going to judge each individual for their own merits not perpetuate a generational stereotype on them.

Of course. But you know it is an issue not a stereotype when companies are having to train their managers how to deal with it.

 

[CdnCarrie]

Of course. But you know it is an issue not a stereotype when companies are having to train their managers how to deal with it.

That’s not happening here. Maybe it’s a California thing? Don’t know what else to tell you
The 20 year olds I know all have great jobs (nurse, banking, teaching) have bought condos . Started families.
And trust me my 25 old niece was working her buns off as a nurse the last 2 years!
Sorry but I’m just not seeing what you are seeing.
My 19 year old is working 7 days straight this week. So no shirking here. He works physical labour.

 

[wenrob]

I’m so glad you understand where I’m coming from!

maybe lack of morals = they don’t demonstrate the morality I think they should?

woke to me = changing the old guard ; awareness of needing change - so sign me up!

But *who’s* morals? Like, that statement doesn’t make any sense to me. How does someone say a whole generation is morally bankrupt? By what standards?

 

[tvguy]

That’s not happening here. Maybe it’s a California thing? Don’t know what else to tell you
The 20 year olds I know all have great jobs (nurse, banking, teaching) have bought condos . Started families.
And trust me my 25 old niece was working her buns off as a nurse the last 2 years!
Sorry but I’m just not seeing what you are seeing.
My 19 year old is working 7 days straight this week. So no shirking here. He works physical labour.

If you get some time and are interested Google "Managing Younger Workers". It is eye opening.

 

[CdnCarrie]

Tv guy can you give a link to show what you mean about training? I have no idea what you’re referring to.

 

[CdnCarrie]

But *who’s* morals? Like, that statement doesn’t make any sense to me. How does someone say a whole generation is morally bankrupt? By what standards?

that is the question isn’t it?

 

[wenrob]

That’s not happening here. Maybe it’s a California thing? Don’t know what else to tell you
The 20 year olds I know all have great jobs (nurse, banking, teaching) have bought condos . Started families.
And trust me my 25 old niece was working her buns off as a nurse the last 2 years!
Sorry but I’m just not seeing what you are seeing.
My 19 year old is working 7 days straight this week. So no shirking here. He works physical labour.

My niece has also worked her butt off as a nurse the last two years. Also one of DD’s best friends. They’ve kept this world spinning.

Most of the 20-30 year olds I know are also working their butts off, my DD included.

 

[CdnCarrie]

If you get some time and are interested Google "Managing Younger Workers". It is eye opening.

I got about the same amount of hits as Googling “Managing Older workers”.
Both sides really having to do with bridging a generation gap in a manager employee relationship.
it’s nothing negative about either group,

 

[prairie_girl]

LOL. You are Gen X and read a newspaper?

What’s wrong with that?

You mean (gasp!!) your Zoomers have morals! And aren’t blatantly and consistent rude to everyone older than 50!

Amazing and great parenting!

/jk

but in all seriousness I do think Gen X are more accepting and less critical of the younger ones than previous generations. What do you think? Maybe I’m in left field with that thought.

I definitely agree with you. We’re a pretty chill generation. Live and let live.

Does this really bother you or something? It appears you bring it up a lot.

Wouldn’t it bother you if people said you hated Canadians, whether it was true or not?

 

[CdnCarrie]

My niece has also worked her butt off as a nurse the last two years. Also one of DD’s best friends. They’ve kept this world spinning.

Most of the 20-30 year olds I know are also working their butts off, my DD included.

Hence being told they lack morals and are lazy prompted the starting of this thread.

 

[tvguy]

What’s wrong with that?

Nothing wrong at all. Support Journalism.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Wouldn’t it bother you if people said you hated Canadians, whether it was true or not?

Honestly no. If people kept saying it I'd have to assume it's because I'm saying thing after thing to give off that impression and I probably would already be aware of it.

Regardless if I had an issue with it probably the last thing I would do is keep bringing it up as all that does is reinforce an impression

 

[prairie_girl]

Honestly no. If people kept saying it I'd have to assume it's because I'm saying thing after thing to give off that impression and I probably would already be aware of it.

Regardless if I had an issue with it probably the last thing I would do is keep bringing it up as all that does is reinforce an impression

Or, that there are pot stirrers on the dis who only exist to stir things up.

(not calling you a pot stirrer)