You can ride TT or Soarin but not both...agghh!

[DividedSky]

Which ride are we talking about...TT or Maelstrom? One is an obvious T1 ride and one isn't. I assume you mean Maelstrom? If so...then we all pretty much agree. But FP+ is pushing that on us.

It's not a kids park but they threw Princess M&Gs in to the mix to "try" to get them to like it. They could make it interesting for them but they have chosen not to. It's in a sad state compared to what it used to be. With the tiering and all, it's the epitome of paying more for less.

I was speaking of TT

it was said both t1 rides were lame. I love soarin.

 

[garjanjones]

I understand that we are not all morning people, but if you want to ride both without a long wait, that is your best option.

On the other side of that, not everyone can handle late nights well either. For example, my family gets up early and goes to bed early, even at home. It helps with getting to school on time, etc. with two working parents. This produces a problem when we want to see a fireworks show. Our ONLY option is to stay up late. I do not expect the park to change its show time just because we do not like to stay up late.

If you want the perk of riding both rides without waiting (or the perk of watching a late show) you are there at the time it if offered. We all have to decide whether it is worth it.

On our trips we do one or two late nights (even though it's not our NORMAL style) and we wake up late the next day. Without a little sacrifice we would not be able to do that. Same goes for people that are normal late sleepers.

 

[Lita]

Plenty of people go for just one day. We did last summer. We also did that on our first trip to Disney. Lots of folks go to Orlando and spend a day or two at Disney, a day or two at Universal, a day at Sea World, etc. Remember, we here on the DIS are outliers.

Very true. My coworkers thought I was crazy for going for 6 nights last year. They thought it was "too much Disney."

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[Mkrop]

But, you can have a perfectly fun time.

My brother did this with his family on their first visit to Disneyland. They went during the period between Christmas and New Years. They had no plan. They arrived at about 10:00 in the morning, and left in the late afternoon. In that time, they had lunch, saw the holiday parade, soaked up the atmosphere, and experienced three "attractions", one of which was a Pooh meet-n-greet.

You know what? They had a lot of fun, and felt good about doing this on a full-price, one day ticket. So much so, that they went back the next year and did it again, albeit this time with a copy of RideMax so that they could squeeze in a few more things.

I would not consider that a good trip...doesnt seem like a lot accomplished

 

[Laketravis]

I don't think a touring strategy from someone that considers soarin to be a lame *** ride is one I am going to waste my time on.

I somewhat agree with TT.

So a touring strategy from someone that considers TT to be a lame *** ride is one nobody should waste their time on either?

 

[DividedSky]

So a touring strategy from someone that considers TT to be a lame *** ride is one nobody should waste their time on either?

my touring strategy is heavily based on what I perceive to be the must do things. if you strongly disagree with my opinion on must do activities, then yes, ignore my plan as it won't fit you.

 

[larryz]

Dang .... sure seems like a lot of work just to ride two lame a$$ rides.

I don't think you're allowed to ride the llamas...

 

[kaybird]

We rode both TT and Soarin' with no problems during New Years week. It can be done, and the great thing about FP+ is you don't have to run clear into the Land building to grab a FP- that might either be gone already, or for a time that no longer fits your plans.

 

[Laketravis]

I don't think you're allowed to ride the llamas...

 

[bcrook]

Which ride are we talking about...TT or Maelstrom? One is an obvious T1 ride and one isn't. I assume you mean Maelstrom? If so...then we all pretty much agree. But FP+ is pushing that on us.

It's not a kids park but they threw Princess M&Gs in to the mix to "try" to get them to like it. They could make it interesting for them but they have chosen not to. It's in a sad state compared to what it used to be. With the tiering and all, it's the epitome of paying more for less.

And they call it a "+".

I think that bothers me more the tiers.

 

[johde]

going into a level 10 theme park at noon and not using the fp+ is a waste of money. sort of.... If That Dec 31st visit was the first of a 7-10 day visit, your cost per day calculation goes way down. the crowds go way down, you get to see fireworks on new years eve, etc, etc. It could be worth the money, that is a personal value judgment.

the lies and BS I have had to wade though over the last week with all the agenda ridden people is utterly ridiculous.

If going into a 10 theme park at noon and not using FP+ is a waste of money, what about all of the people who entered the parks after noon under FP- and all of the FP's are gone. Here's a thread from 2011, prior to FP+ and the FP- ratio tinkering preceding FP+. They figured FP's would be distributed by 10:30 A.M.

I'm not singling out your post but there is a lot of supposition about touring EPCOT on NYE arriving late in the day. In 2012, my flight landed at MCO Dec. 31, 2012 3:30 P.M. After taking DME to OKW I finally arrived at EPCOT about 6:00. EPCOT is open NYE until 1:00 A.M. so I still had 7 hours in the park. Could I have ridden TT and Soarin', YES, would it have been the best use of my time, NO. When I arrived, both rides were advertising 4 hour+ waits. And yes all FP's were gone (with the exception of living with the land).

Over the course of the evening I did most of the "minor" attraction on the right side of FW, Sea with Nemo, Imagination, Living with the Land, and Captain EO. Yes most of them had waits I wouldn't dream of standing in any other day, but not horrible. And despite what LakeTravis says, being a child of the 80's I enjoyed Captain EO having never seen it the first time around. And I'm not necessarily a Michael Jackson fan. (being the only attraction that was a walk on might have helped). The rest of the time I spent in WS enjoying the giant NYE party with multiple DJ's, and a midnight version of illuminations that has to be in the top 1 or 2 fireworks displays ever.

I watched Illuminations from Mexico and took a backstage pathway they had opened up for the evening afterwards over to test track and got into the single rider line. I got off TT about 12:40 and could have tried to head over to soarin' but decided I was tired enough from traveling and the day at the park I wanted to go back to the room.

For me, FP+ definitely would have been a plus. Even if I didn't score a FP for Soarin' or TT, getting FP's Maelstrom, figment, and Nemo could save 2 hours in line. Yes, Soarin, Mission Space, and Spaceship Earth might save you 6 or 7 hour in line. All that being said, If any day has the possibility of running out of FP+'s it's NYE at EPCOT.

Was it worth doing once? yes. Would I want to do it every vacation? No.


Back to the original post I reply I was hoping crowds would die down. They never did. Any more, they don't die down the 2nd but the Sunday or Monday after New Years.

 

[Klismania]

If going into a 10 theme park at noon and not using FP+ is a waste of money, what about all of the people who entered the parks after noon under FP- and all of the FP's are gone.

THANK YOU!!

I flipped through the three, four, five pages of bickering over how many hours, how many minutes, how many times you can ride two rides, you're wrong its mathematically impossible, no YOU'RE wrong and here's the mathematical equation to show it IS possible loser, and something about Old Country Buffet and Depends (not sure I WANT to know what that was all about).

My main thought after skimming all the petty BS was, "Hey, if you are only going to EPCOT to ride the rides, then save your money and go to Cedar Point or Great America or Six Flags or something." Seriously? With everything EPCOT has to offer, now everyone's complaining and arguing down to the last detail about how they can't ride TT and Soarin' so many times that they throw up so they're going to take their ball and go home? UGH!!

 

[bcrook]

THANK YOU!!

I flipped through the three, four, five pages of bickering over how many hours, how many minutes, how many times you can ride two rides, you're wrong its mathematically impossible, no YOU'RE wrong and here's the mathematical equation to show it IS possible loser, and something about Old Country Buffet and Depends (not sure I WANT to know what that was all about).

My main thought after skimming all the petty BS was, "Hey, if you are only going to EPCOT to ride the rides, then save your money and go to Cedar Point or Great America or Six Flags or something." Seriously? With everything EPCOT has to offer, now everyone's complaining and arguing down to the last detail about how they can't ride TT and Soarin' so many times that they throw up so they're going to take their ball and go home? UGH!!

You might want to head over to this thread and spread some good will there too.

 

[Laketravis]

And despite what LakeTravis says, being a child of the 80's I enjoyed Captain EO having never seen it the first time around.

Don't taze me, bro!!!

I NEVER said I didn't enjoy Captain EO, I've ALWAYS said don't waste a FP+ on it because the wait is typically short.

Geeeeeez............

 

[Zeebs]

I just want to jump in to say how annoying it is to me that the pro "rope drop" people just assume that everyone can do this. It has been my experience that when on vacation kids generally stay up a little later thus want to sleep in a little later. To not let them do this makes for sleep deprived children who are not going to enjoy their experience as much. I would never do this to my kids for the purpose of sticking to a "touring plan" that requires everyone up and out super early. I also wonder how pleasant this truly is for the young children of rope droppers. Just sayin'

We are pro rope droppers, however, we also stick to our kids normal schedule. We get their for rope drop, tour until about 2.30 - 3.00 ish then leave for swimming dinner and bed at normal time give or take. We find this keeps kids happy and reasonably well rested, and parents less grumpy because we aren't dealing with tired cranky kids. Everyone does things differently, you find what is right for your family. We go for 2 weeks, so we can't do early mornings and late nights but if we were only there for 5 maybe things would be different.

Kirsten

 

[Jennasis]

THANK YOU!!

I flipped through the three, four, five pages of bickering over how many hours, how many minutes, how many times you can ride two rides, you're wrong its mathematically impossible, no YOU'RE wrong and here's the mathematical equation to show it IS possible loser, and something about Old Country Buffet and Depends (not sure I WANT to know what that was all about).

My main thought after skimming all the petty BS was, "Hey, if you are only going to EPCOT to ride the rides, then save your money and go to Cedar Point or Great America or Six Flags or something." Seriously? With everything EPCOT has to offer, now everyone's complaining and arguing down to the last detail about how they can't ride TT and Soarin' so many times that they throw up so they're going to take their ball and go home? UGH!!

I go to theme parks with rides to ride the rides. Considering Epcot only has like 9 actual rides, putting any limits on my ride habits is not okay with me (YMMV), but I do ALSO enjoy the parks other offerings. I can do both...ride rides and enjoy the atmosphere and such.

If someone wants to pay the crazy high price of admission to just hang out in the park all day, then bully for them. I don't care what others do or don't do on their vacations. I just think it's a little presumptuous for someone to give people grief for doing a vacation their way.

 

[Mkrop]

I go to theme parks with rides to ride the rides. Considering Epcot only has like 9 actual rides, putting any limits on my ride habits is not okay with me (YMMV), but I do ALSO enjoy the parks other offerings. I can do both...ride rides and enjoy the atmosphere and such.

If someone wants to pay the crazy high price of admission to just hang out in the park all day, then bully for them. I don't care what others do or don't do on their vacations. I just think it's a little presumptuous for someone to give people grief for doing a vacation their way.

Not just an Amen but a thank goodness someone said it

 

[magicbob]

THANK YOU!!

I flipped through the three, four, five pages of bickering over how many hours, how many minutes, how many times you can ride two rides, you're wrong its mathematically impossible, no YOU'RE wrong and here's the mathematical equation to show it IS possible loser, and something about Old Country Buffet and Depends (not sure I WANT to know what that was all about).

My main thought after skimming all the petty BS was, "Hey, if you are only going to EPCOT to ride the rides, then save your money and go to Cedar Point or Great America or Six Flags or something." Seriously? With everything EPCOT has to offer, now everyone's complaining and arguing down to the last detail about how they can't ride TT and Soarin' so many times that they throw up so they're going to take their ball and go home? UGH!!

Actually, the discussion was about riding each of these ONCE without having to spend all day in line to do it and, therefore, NOT be able to experience "everything EPCOT has to offer."

And, to be fair, Soarin' and TT are the two most popular rides at a park with very few rides. Is it too much to expect to ride both without having to sacrifice your entire day to do it? Sure, it's possible, but is it desirable?