Yet another reason not to ride MS

[daisax]

The first time I rode it I remember the blast-off being so powerful that I felt so much pressure on my chest I could barely breathe. Last time, not so much. . . still pressure but didn't feel nearly as much force as the first time.

I'm going to hazard a guess and say you were holding your breath I went skydiving once (tandem, hooked up to a guy who actually knew what he was doing!) and one of my instructions was that my instinct as the pressure and wind buffeted my face would be to feel like I couldn't breathe, but it was simply a case of a reflex of holding my breath, and once I took a deep breath, that sensation would go away. And so it did. I'm guessing you had the same physiological reaction when you felt the pressure -- your lungs feel pressure and your body says "Don't breathe!" because they think you're under water or something. I wonder whether a lot of the people who insist that the ride has gotten less intense are merely breathing normally vs. the first time when they were holding their breath.

(yes yes the poor little innocent child had a previous heart condition, which was made WORSE by going on the ride)

We don't know that, or that it might not have been made equally bad by the excitement of seeing Buzz and Woody, or a particularly bumpy dip on the Dumbo ride. We only know that this is what he was doing when the incident became apparent.

 

[WaltD4Me]

I think Disney is so cleaver that it should be able to create thrill rides that aren't that intense on the body. For instance, Soarin, TOT, Dinosaur, Space Mountain, Splash Mountain, Big Thunder Mountain are all good examples of that

As creative as Disney certainly is, I think it may be even beyond them to create a true thrill ride that isn't intense, the whole thing that makes a thrill ride a thrill ride is that IS intense. I'm sure you won't find any thrill ride lovers saying that Soarin' or Dinosaur or even Space Mountain or BTMRR are thrill rides. TOT is another story, but a young girl died on that ride last summer, should it be shut down before something else happens? Ride companies and amusement parks (not just Disney) are continually pushing the envelope because people keep asking for more. They want rides that are HIGHER, FASTER, with MORE G-Forces, this is what everyone is clamoring for and it's what draws many people to places like Cedar Point, Six Flags and other thrill ride parks.

Is MS intense? Most say yes, is it the MOST intense ride out there, I highly doubt it.

 

[HollisterSweetie]

I have never been on MS but from what I hear, I think for $100 million, Disney could have done something so much more without putting people's health at risk.

Think about it: They could have designed a car that rides through pitch black in a slow moving vehicle with a huge screen filled with stars and planets in 3D. Then they could have moved the vehicle backward and forward and maybe even have it on a cable at some points and different motions and movements. I think that would have made for an excellent space ride where everyone would be able to enjoy it. Maybe even at some points they could have put a little dip (like in a coaster). The possibilities are endless. If it was my money I would have done something better then a gravitron for $100M.

*YAWN* M:S is fine for us thrill ride junkies, we love it! You can`t please everyone and EVERY0NE would not enjoy another ride similar to SE just to please M:S critics.

 

[WeluvDisney2]

...Disney payed over $100 million for this ride--its not going anywhere.

Maybe... but I would hope that Disney would put safety before dollar signs.

 

[pamouselover]

Excuse me? Just because I choose not to allow my children to ride mission space is no reason for you to be like you are.
I am sure other parents on here, wont allow their children to ride it for the same reasons. I know my children and myself, and I made a choose for us, it is fine if you allow your children to ride it, but don't bash at me for my choose.

How in the world do you manage to leave the house at all? If you don't want to "chance it", you need to stay at home and never leave. There are so many things out there besides MS that are much more likely to cause harm to you and your children.

 

[ericafny]

Pamouselover - Don't let the nasty comments on this thread get to you. I have been 'attacked' several times since I started this thread (I am the OP)...

I totally agree with you about not letting your kids ride MS and while I do not have children I know I would still feel the same way, heck I am telling DBF not to ride it because of all the problems it has caused. There are just some people that feel they need to be nasty and rude because their precious MS ride is under some heat. Just like they claim they are entitled to their opinion, we are entitled to ours as well!

 

[PaulaSB12]

I didn't ride Mission Space last year, can't remember why not. I intend to do it this year though. I just wish I had the nerve to ride Sheikra over at Busch Gardens.

 

[Mariposa]

I think if we sanitized the parks to non-challenging, super nonthrill rides, we'd end up with parks that were far more kid friendly, but not family friendly- the adults and older kids are family too and while we all enjoy Fantasyland (well, *I* do!) I wouldn't enjoy a park with nothing but that style of rides, and we and others like us would stop coming back and bringing dollars into the parks. Disney, as we all know, likes to keep bringing our dollars back into the parks.

I think the current Disney layout of something for just about everyone isn't broken and doesn't need to be fixed.

I won't argue that this is a tragedy, but I'm not going to stop riding.

Thanks, my thoughts exactly. I mean, the two deaths make me very sad AND gave me pause when considering if I'd ride M:S in May- but then I remember that around 200 million people have ridden without serious incident. I can take those odds.

 

[DisDarling]

I just choose not to ride it, its your life and your choice
D.D.

 

[jillyjoey]

I just choose not to ride it, its your life and your choice
D.D.

I agree -- it is your choice whether to ride or not. My dh and I rode this last time at WDW. It was a very hot day. I am hyperthyroid and have a fast resting heartrate. The ride did not bother me at all. DH, on the other hand, got sick after riding. I attribute to his not heeding the warning of not lifting your head off the headrest, the heat, and everything that he ate and drank before hand. Disney had so many warnings before getting on this ride, it kinds of freaks you out, then to see the "barf bags" you wonder what you have gotten yourself into. No one can say, however, that Disney does not provide adequate warnings about the nature of this ride.

I am trying to understand why would a parent let their 4 year old ride this ride - or even why would a CM let a 4 year old on? (My 3 year old is so tall people think she is 5 -- that could be the answer) I personally would not let my small children on this ride as I do not think they could obey the warnings.

I'm not trying to totally absolve Disney but seems to me that if you have a preexisting medical condition you should seriously consider getting on this ride and if you have small children you should not let them ride.

 

[Kick Save]

Excuse me? Just because I choose not to allow my children to ride mission space is no reason for you to be like you are.
I am sure other parents on here, wont allow their children to ride it for the same reasons. I know my children and myself, and I made a choose for us, it is fine if you allow your children to ride it, but don't bash at me for my choose.

I read those comments before and didn't take them as a total bash (a little), mainly because they were the truth. You put yourself and you kids in more danger getting in the car than you do by riding M:S.

If you're not allowing them to ride for fear of them getting sick or not liking it, that's a reasonable decision, IMO, because motion sickness is a very real result of riding M:S. However, if you're not allowing them to ride because of two documented cases of people passing away due to existing medical conditions that were exacerbated by M:S, then that's going to the extreme because death is NOT a common result of riding M:S.

Pesonally, I like the ride. Felt a bit dizzy after getting off last time, but not sick. I'll give it a whirl (literally) the next time I'm at Epcot, and if my eldest wants to go along he's welcome to do so. (Though he wasn't a big ToT fan, so I doubt he'll hop right on M:S just yet.) And judging by the number of threads concerning this ride and those that just will not ride it, my wait should be shorter.

 

[beattyfamily]

It's my DHs favorite at WDW so I sure hope they don't close it down.

People die every single day from underlying conditions they didn't know they had...playing baseball, football, riding in a car, seeing a scary movie or a very graphic movie etc....

People have died on many rides as well from pre-existing conditions or by doing something they shouldn't have.

Keep MS but don't ride if you are afraid. Let us who love it continue to ride it.

Oh and as for this comment by pamouselover :

I wont chance it. I value my childrens life and my life to much.

Well, I value my kid's life just as much as you do even though I choose to let them ride whatever rides they want to as long as their tall enough for it. We won't live in fear of the 'what ifs' cause then we couldn't do much in life like ride a bike, drive in a car, fly in a plane...You don't value your children's lives any more then any other parent does.

 

[Dis-Wiz]

There are SO many signs before actually getting into your seat on M:S, that describe what the ride is like, and not to go on it if you have motion sickness, clausterphobia (check spelling), high blood pressure, etc. In one of my business classes, we learned that in order for a potential costumer to notice an Ad, s/he has to see the ad at least nine times! I think the same thing applies to the warnings for rides. A person has to see a warning sign about nine times before taking it into real consideration, and I think that M:S exceeds that by a lot!! I remember while standing in line for it, I saw and heard all of the warnings and descriptions of the ride about 20 times from the posters on the wall, and the numerous t.v.'s in the waiting area.

I don't think it is Disney's fault in ANY way. It is totally the rider's choice.

Also, I think Universal paid the news stations to publicize this as much as they did.

 

[Brad&Kryssi]

Oh and as for this comment by pamouselover :

"I wont chance it. I value my childrens life and my life to much."

Well, I value my kid's life just as much as you do even though I choose to let them ride whatever rides they want to as long as their tall enough for it. We won't live in fear of the 'what ifs' cause then we couldn't do much in life like ride a bike, drive in a car, fly in a plane...You don't value your children's lives any more then any other parent does.

I agree...we ALL value our childrens lives and letting them ride this ride in no way constitutes a lack of value.

Bottom line is this ride did not directly cause the deaths, it aggravated an underlying condition and that condition eventually led to death.

My daughter was asthmatic, and when she died in 2003, in a car accident, it was due to a severe asthmatic episode she suffered as a result of the crash. So, did the car crash actually kill her? No, but the asthma did. The car crash aggravated the asthma. Had she not been asthmatic, she probably would have survived as did the other 3 kids that were in the car with her.

This does not stop me from letting my other daughter get into a car. As one poster put it, you have to ride in a car you don't have to ride MS. That is your choice, but there is certainly no reason, for others who are fine with it, to not be able to ride it.

 

[Hannathy]

Thank you Beattyfamily ! I agree.

 

[Disney711]

why would a CM let a 4 year old on?

Because it's not the CMs responsibility to decide whether or not a kid is old/mature enough to ride it. The little boy met the height requirement, that's all that counts. I personally think 4 is too young to ride it as well, he must have been tall for his age, but all the CMs can do is check the height, they can't parent the kid.

 

[pamouselover]

OK, were did I ever say I live life with what if's?
I never have said that MS needs to be closed down, nor did I say people should not allow their kids on it. That is your choose, and I really don’t care.
I don’t think people are dying on this ride BECAUSE OF THE RIDE ITSELF, So don’t put words in my mouth.
I just said I KNOW MY KIDS AND I KNOW MYSELF AND FROM WHAT I HEARD ABOUT MISSION SPACE IT IS NOT FOR US. I don’t know if I have a heart problems, but I have thyroid problems and a family history of heart attacks and I don’t like small spaces, I know my son has had times were he has got off rides dizzy and he tends to pass out in the heat. So in my good judgment I decide not to ride it, and not allow my children to ride it either.
Like you are told to do with any ride, I used my discretion.
You don’t like it owell...I don’t have time in MY LIFE to argue with a bunch of you over a ride and my choose not to ride it.

 

[grinningghost]

I have multiple sclerosis and in my daily life I suffer from dizziness and poor equilibrium, yet I rode MS without any problems at all. In fact, my biggest complaint was the feeling that my lungs were going to collapse.

But it's not like they don't give you ample warning before you get on this ride - I mean, come on, they warn you a zillion times about the possible problems you can experience. People need to understand that there are all kinds of rides - and if MS has an audience, then it should stay.

 

[beattyfamily]

OK, were did I ever say I live life with what if's?
I never have said that MS needs to be closed down, nor did I say people should not allow their kids on it. That is your choose, and I really don’t care.
I don’t think people are dying on this ride BECAUSE OF THE RIDE ITSELF, So don’t put words in my mouth.
I just said I KNOW MY KIDS AND I KNOW MYSELF AND FROM WHAT I HEARD ABOUT MISSION SPACE IT IS NOT FOR US. I don’t know if I have a heart problems, but I have thyroid problems and a family history of heart attacks and I don’t like small spaces, I know my son has had times were he has got off rides dizzy and he tends to pass out in the heat. So in my good judgment I decide not to ride it, and not allow my children to ride it either.
Like you are told to do with any ride, I used my discretion.
You don’t like it owell...I don’t have time in MY LIFE to argue with a bunch of you over a ride and my choose not to ride it.

If this reply is in reference to my post there's no need because my whole post was directed to everyone in the thread about the subject of MS and closing it or not, what the OP suggested...

The ONLY part of my post that was in reply to you directly was about your comment of: "I wont chance it. I value my childrens life and my life to much."

 

[byoung]

I love to rideing MS, never had a problem after rideing.