Yet another reason not to ride MS

[ericafny]

Yes everyone I think they should close all the roads because people die in car accidents. AND I think that we should let all the politicians run everything and pass legislation so we all can just sit in a white room with padding all day long and not have any fun...

I go on all the 'fast' rides...ToT, RnR, BTMR, SM, TT, etc. etc. etc....In fact can't wait to ride EE when I go this July...However, when a ride causes this much controversy and two people die (yes yes the poor little innocent child had a previous heart condition, which was made WORSE by going on the ride) then I have to wonder if it is a 'safe' ride in general. I am aware that some people get sick, some don't, and some think this is the best ride they have ever been on. I just find it hard to belive that Disney being Disney they would keep this ride open without some serious alterations made as to either (a) the warning signs (b) height and maybe age restrictions (c) intensity to which the G force is felt

YEESH! A girl states her opinion and gets massively attacked...lighten up peoples...

 

[markwake]

Yes everyone I think they should close all the roads because people die in car accidents. AND I think that we should let all the politicians run everything and pass legislation so we all can just sit in a white room with padding all day long and not have any fun...

I'm convinced "It's a Small World" should be shut down. A recent University study found that IASW is a primary cause of mental instability . . .

 

[Kitts21]

I to would like to send my heart felt condolences to the womans family....

Now I would like to applude all of you who came in deffence of this ride and all other thrill rides that Disney has made for our enjoyment. The fact is that it is each individuals choice what rides he or she can handle. My DS who was 9 when he first rode MS fell in love with it, it's his fav. ride. On the other hand my DW can't go on the tea cups or even the spinning dino kids ride in AK with out getting sick. I can't understand how people can justify closing down a ride because its to intense? Isn't that what its suppose to be "INTENSE", I can't imagine that a real live shuttle launch would be tame. I love thrill rides , I feel they let you feel alive, they break the monotony of everyday life.....FOR ME... not for everyone, Thats not to say that just looking at my children doesn't do the samething. Just in a diffrent way.
To ERICANY your backlash has nothing to do with your sex. Everyone is entitled to there opinons. But to put into your statment that and I qoute "yes yes the poor little innocent child had a previous heart condition" to try to justify your statment is a little wacky. I don't believe that anyone was bashing the young child or stating it was his fault that he went on the ride and died. What he had was a pre-exicting condition, thats all they were saying, And as for the age restriction thing how would you work that one.. only people who are 12-35 yrs old can ride it. I belive that might be infringeing on peoples rights. For your remarks on the warnnig signs before hand, i think you are warned about 400 times, with the signs , the recording that keeps playing while you walk through the que(sp) area and then the video they show before you actually get into the ride loading area. I think their is plenty of warnings before hand. I just think that it is a riders responsiblity to know there limits....JMHO

 

[lovetoscrap]

Well, if we have to make every ride so everyone can enjoy them then we need to turn MS into a sort of carousel with gentle twirling through space.

NOPE, Sorry, I get motion sick on the carousel--that idea won't work either!

 

[WaltD4Me]

I've never ridden Mission Space, even before these awful deaths, I had no desire, because I've gotten sick on motion simulator rides before, so I tend to stay away from. That said, I don't really know what the answer here is. I think there are MANY intense amusement park rides all over the world, the industry is continually pushing the envelope as far as thrill rides go and millions of people just keep asking for more. Have we reached the limit? Have thrill rides gone too far? I don't have any stats, but I would be very surprised if Mission Space was the MOST intense, the ride with highest G-force, I bet there are others that are much worse...I mean have you SEEN those rides on the top of the Statosphere hotel in Vegas?!?! -- True, no one has died riding those, but still they look WAY worse to me than Mission Space, so isn't only a matter of time?

When I went to Disney with my sister, she and I went on RNR...now, I LOVE that ride... I mean LOVE it, I could ride it 10 times in a row, but my poor sister got off that ride and was as white as a sheet. She was dizzy, nauseous and shaky, we had to sit down for quite awhile afterwards until she felt better. I was even getting a little concerened and thought of taking her to the first aide office, but eventually she felt better and I didn't. Of course, this was before the little boy died on MS, if it had been after, I would have taken her for sure and not waited to see if she shook it off! -- My point being that different people can and do have completely different reactions to rides, again, true no one has died after riding RNR, but that's not to say no one ever will, should we shut it down now, "just in case?"

 

[remmy_7]

YEESH! A girl states her opinion and gets massively attacked...lighten up peoples...

that's the consequence of posting. You have to be prepared for all of the different opinions. Don't worry though, I've sounded like a fool on this board too

 

[stemikger]

I would love to try Mission Space, but I have high blood pressure so I already know I can't do it. With that being said, I am really disappointed that Disney would put a $100 million ride in my favoriate park that excludes so many people and is apparently too intense for a large majority of the public.

My sister is a thrill ride junkie and she said this ride runied her entire day.

I think Disney is so cleaver that it should be able to create thrill rides that aren't that intense on the body. For instance, Soarin, TOT, Dinosaur, Space Mountain, Splash Mountain, Big Thunder Mountain are all good examples of that. They are fun and fast without going over the top. However The coaster in MGM with Aerosomith seems too extreme for Dis. I hope they don't go overboard in that direction. I know the demographics are changing, but leave the extreme coasters to six flags and Universal and create a fine balance of fun and thrills without excluding so many.

 

[disneycruise05]

Yes yes the poor little innocent child had a previous heart condition, which was made WORSE by going on the ride...then I have to wonder if it is a 'safe' ride in general.

This poor innocent child could have died on any ride that was somewhat thrilling: M:S, ToT, RnRC...even the teacups in MK. I have never gotten dizzy or nauseous from M:S, only from the teacups and Star Tours. It seems like a coincidence that this child happened to have just ridden M:S.

I would personally hate to see M:S toned down more than it already is. And I highly doubt that Disney would even consider removing it after building it for $100 million.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[stemikger]

I have never been on MS but from what I hear, I think for $100 million, Disney could have done something so much more without putting people's health at risk.

Think about it: They could have designed a car that rides through pitch black in a slow moving vehicle with a huge screen filled with stars and planets in 3D. Then they could have moved the vehicle backward and forward and maybe even have it on a cable at some points and different motions and movements. I think that would have made for an excellent space ride where everyone would be able to enjoy it. Maybe even at some points they could have put a little dip (like in a coaster). The possibilities are endless. If it was my money I would have done something better then a gravitron for $100M.

 

[mamaprincess]

My whole family loves MS and has never experienced any adverse reactions and I'm sure we are not alone. When you have a pre-existing condition you are like a walking time bomb, there is no telling what might set it off. It's very scary to think that some of us, clearly very few since thousands have ridden the ride and survived, have conditions that go undiagnosed by our doctors.

 

[ericafny]

I have never been on MS but from what I hear, I think for $100 million, Disney could have done something so much more without putting people's health at risk.

Think about it: They could have designed a car that rides through pitch black in a slow moving vehicle with a huge screen filled with stars and planets in 3D. Then they could have moved the vehicle backward and forward and maybe even have it on a cable at some points and different motions and movements. I think that would have made for an excellent space ride where everyone would be able to enjoy it. Maybe even at some points they could have put a little dip (like in a coaster). The possibilities are endless. If it was my money I would have done something better then a gravitron for $100M.

That's what I'm talking about!

 

[Magickndm]

Long Live Mission Space!

Ok, that HAS to be a sig line if I've ever seen one! If you don't mind, I'm going to add it to mine.

 

[pamouselover]

so sad.
I never have rode mission space, I have always wanted to.
But after the young boy dying last year, right before we were going to WDW I would not let my DS or DD to ride it.
DS beg me, and I said no I love you to much.
I just dont want to take a chance at something like losing my child or myself to ride mission space. I do sometimes found I dont like small spaces, so I wont chance it. I value my childrens life and my life to much. We are all healthly people, but you just never know.

 

[MyGoofy26]

I have never been on MS but from what I hear, I think for $100 million, Disney could have done something so much more without putting people's health at risk.

Think about it: They could have designed a car that rides through pitch black in a slow moving vehicle with a huge screen filled with stars and planets in 3D. Then they could have moved the vehicle backward and forward and maybe even have it on a cable at some points and different motions and movements. I think that would have made for an excellent space ride where everyone would be able to enjoy it. Maybe even at some points they could have put a little dip (like in a coaster). The possibilities are endless. If it was my money I would have done something better then a gravitron for $100M.

I can't imagine what you describe to be anywhere near as exciting as what Mission: SPACE really is. It's not just a "gravitron" - it just uses the same idea in that it spins and the reason that people have made the connection to those types of rides is because physiologically it has the same effect on your body. . . the experience is completely different. I can't do spinning rides - teacups are a big no-no for me, but that's because I can *see* the spin. The design of these pods tricks your brain into thinking that you're moving in all sorts of ways, not spinning. $100 million to take a leisurely ride through a 3D planetarium doesn't sound like a wise investment to me.

 

[johnvree]

Warning signs will not help someone who is unaware of a preexisting condition, like the little boy last year.

No attraction is without risk. You could easily be killed on POTC or Jungle Cruise if you fall out of the boat.

In school I took a class that dealt with the issue of "acceptable risk." In theory, they could build an automobile that no one would ever be killed in. It would, however, be very heavy due to all the reinforcement and safety measures and would go very slow. The problem is, the car would be so heavy that it would cost a fortune to fuel and so slow that it would take forever to get anywhere. That's why they don't build them.

Here is what I would want to know before tinkering with MS. Is the risk of death any greater on MS than other thrill rides? In other words, would the two people who died on MS have died on TOT, Space Mountain or RnR? Maybe MS is so intense or maybe the centrifuge is different in a way that makes it more risky. If so, then maybe it needs to be changed or shut down.

 

[Mickey Fanatic]

I can actually handle MS better than the tea cups! I feel sick for the whole day after the Tea Cups!

As you can tell I am a wimp. I think that if people were to read the warnings and heed them (be honest witht hemselves if they don't meet on of the requirements) there would be less problems.

As I was reading the article concerning this I noticed one statement:

"Disney also told state inspectors that the woman may have suffered from high blood pressure and other health problems, McElroy said."

I don't remember all the warnings (its been a year and a half) But I can't imagine that someone who may have had high blood pressure shoulf\d have been one this ride.

We are adults (or with adults). We are responsible for ourselves. Disney posts warnings and it is up to each of us to decide if we should go on thrill rides.

 

[MinnieNurse]

I cannot ride the teacups, I will be sick all day. I rode MS last year with DH and DS (then 5) and we all loved it. My DS is actually the one who drug me on it. I am now torn by what I hear. I truly believe when it is your time you will go-so I am not sure it will stop us from continueing to ride all our favorite rides.

 

[DizBelle]

so sad.
I never have rode mission space, I have always wanted to.
But after the young boy dying last year, right before we were going to WDW I would not let my DS or DD to ride it.
DS beg me, and I said no I love you to much.
I just dont want to take a chance at something like losing my child or myself to ride mission space. I do sometimes found I dont like small spaces, so I wont chance it. I value my childrens life and my life to much. We are all healthly people, but you just never know.

How in the world do you manage to leave the house at all? If you don't want to "chance it", you need to stay at home and never leave. There are so many things out there besides MS that are much more likely to cause harm to you and your children.

 

[ladysoleil]

I think Disney is so cleaver that it should be able to create thrill rides that aren't that intense on the body. For instance, Soarin, TOT, Dinosaur, Space Mountain, Splash Mountain, Big Thunder Mountain are all good examples of that. They are fun and fast without going over the top. However The coaster in MGM with Aerosomith seems too extreme for Dis. I hope they don't go overboard in that direction. I know the demographics are changing, but leave the extreme coasters to six flags and Universal and create a fine balance of fun and thrills without excluding so many.

Um, sure, but those aren't good examples of rides that are accessible to everyone either, because there are people who also can't ride those rides due to physical limitations/health problems. I have back problems and can't ride stuff like Splash, Big Thunder, and Dinosaur. I love Star Tours but rarely ride it because, well, it kills my back too, but I'll suck it up now and then. Space Mountain isn't as jerky in my opinion but I choose not to ride it because DH is a big guy and claustrophobic so we skip it as a courtesy to him. And we went with a pregnant friend back in January who couldn't ride most of the rides. We saw a lot of shows and sucked up a lot of ambience- much fun, yes, but I wouldn't want to tour like that every visit, either.

I personally never rode MS until recently- after the four year old died, in fact. Why? Because I was psyched out by the hype and afraid of it. After the unfortunate incident, the information and opinions I got about the ride convinced me that it might be something I would like...and I did. Yes, full disclosure, I was a bit dizzy after I hopped off, but a little fresh air and a few sippy cups of that of dee-licious Beverly (no, I am not kidding!) settled my stomach just fine. I love the ride now, and if it weren't a 45 minute line with no FastPasses left, I would have hopped right back on, too.

My husband, on the other hand, as mentioned, is a big guy, claustrophobic, and prone to motion sickness. He'll never, ever ride MS, and I respect his choice to do that.

The point I am making is twofold- one, know yourself, use the information you have available and make good choices for your comfort and safety, and two, every ride is not designed for everyone. No matter how hard Disney works at it, they cannot be all things to all people. I think they do a great job of doing great rides that appeal to a huge cross-section of people, but there's no way they are ever going to make everyone happy and comfortable. The nature of human diversity is just too wide.

I think if we sanitized the parks to non-challenging, super nonthrill rides, we'd end up with parks that were far more kid friendly, but not family friendly- the adults and older kids are family too and while we all enjoy Fantasyland (well, *I* do!) I wouldn't enjoy a park with nothing but that style of rides, and we and others like us would stop coming back and bringing dollars into the parks. Disney, as we all know, likes to keep bringing our dollars back into the parks.

I think the current Disney layout of something for just about everyone isn't broken and doesn't need to be fixed.

I won't argue that this is a tragedy, but I'm not going to stop riding.

 

[Chad&Janet]

Ok, that HAS to be a sig line if I've ever seen one! If you don't mind, I'm going to add it to mine.

no problemo!