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Wow, I am a basket case right now.


I just called, and they already have him in custody. He turned himself in early this morning. I tried his mom, no answer. I imagine she is having a difficult day. And they did want my name BTW. I told them I would feel better not giving it, and the lady kept asking several times. Name and number to reach me back at. I did not give it. I did talk to his brother, he said that they recvd several calls this morning after the news was on, so apparently a lot of people saw it.


Nutterbutter-He is the way he is because he volunteered to die for you, even though he has never met you. That is the kind of person he is. We are lucky to have people like him in the world.
I guess now we wait and see what happens. I hope they can get him the help he needs.

Then if he ever tries to rob me in a drug enduced rage, I'll let him know how much I appreciate him.
 
I'm glad he turned himself in. I hope he gets the help he needs. I hope you are OK.:hug:
 
Then if he ever tries to rob me in a drug enduced rage, I'll let him know how much I appreciate him.

You know, that's really not necessary. You made your point and now you're just kicking someone when they're down. It's really cruel.
 

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I'd pick him up and drive him to the police station and go with him to turn himself in. At least then he knows that you really support him and he's not in thie fight alone. It will also look better for him in the long run for coming in on his own, rather than the police looking for him. Besides, what if you called the police and they went to apprehend him and, as you said he fought in a war so he may have undiagnosed PTSD, he may be like a cornered dog and act out and then the police may shoot him and kill him. Could you live with that?
 
Sorry, its the way I see it. Anyone who robs stores with no concern for anything including themselves is, to me, no longer any use to society. Unless he cleans up his act, that is. What if you owned this store, and some druggie comes in after hours to rob it. But its the Christmas season, and your working overtime, and your there?? What if you have your kids there helping you?? This guy comes in - you don't know if he has a gun, a knife, or what. How would you feel then?


I think you are confused. He might currently be a danger to society, but there is no way to know if he is no longer any use to society. He could clean up his act and contribute greatly.

I'm sure that's what you meant. :rolleyes1
 
I know I need to call, its just making me want to throw up. I love this person. I do not want him to die. I know my friends and family are going to be upset with me for calling, and we all know that I am going to be the one to make the call.

Nutterbutter- what a cold mean thing to say. This person who is "no use to society" spent a few years fighting in a war to protect your freedom. He has a problem, he is not a bad person.

:hug: This is such a hard thing to face. You feel like you are turning against the person and feel guilty doing what you know is right. Keep this in mind, calling will help this person. It is getting him off the street and then, hopefully, you and the rest of the family will be able to work within the system to get him the help he needs.

Anyone can become a productive member of society again. It sounds like this person was a hero once and he can be everything that he was again.
 
You did the right thing. :hug: I hope he gets the help he deserves.
 
Then if he ever tries to rob me in a drug enduced rage, I'll let him know how much I appreciate him.

I hope and pray that you never have to face this kind of situation with a loved one. There is no need to be so cold and heartless.

There are a lot of our servicemen and women that come back and get on drugs or are on drugs when they get back; I am sure if you had to face death and dying on a daily basis you may want to find a way to escape too. There are a million different reasons and ways for someone to become an addict. I sincerely hope you will not have to eat your words someday.
 
Rafiki -- :grouphug:

I hope your friend/relative gets the help he needs to get and stay sober. It sounds like he was a great person in the past, and he can still do great things in the future. :flower3:
 
Your watching the news, you see a clip fo someone knocking off a corner store. You recognize this person. You know he has a drug problem. You know jail does not help him, only makes his drug habit worse. You know he would never intentionally hurt someone, but drugs make him a bad person and he is not himself.

Do you call the police? Let the legal system throw him back to jail?

Do you call his mom and see if she will have him hauled back to rehab? He has had some success with rehab, but it never lasts long enough. His mom has been through the ringer.

Do you do nothing an hope someone else handles it? This seems to be the approach of my entire group of people. This will not resolve itself. He is headed for jail or death either way. It is painful to watch. I would rather he be in prison alive then dead on the street.

I'm glad you called. No one would intentionally hurt someone, until they do. I assume this is a man with military training. Drugs can do horrible things and I wouldn't assume that he wouldn't hurt someone just because that OFF drugs he is a good person. This man is more than capable of hurting someone.

Don't you think robbing a store traumatized and 'hurt' the people working at the time?

If someone is desperate enough...and drugs will do that to you...they will hurt people if they feel they 'have' to.

You may love this person, but don't forget that. On drugs, he is not the same person.

I know you had a hard time but you did do the right thing.
 
you did the right thing for sure....
 
Because of the robbery aspect it's likely this person will do some jail or prison time. However, the family should speak w/ the attorney if he won't and push for treatment as a portion of his sentence or parole/probation. Granted, pushing someone into rehab isn't the ideal for getting the best outcome, it may be that he'll be ready after getting sober while locked up first. As in most addiction cases, sounds like mental health therapy may be most needed here. As a veteran, perhaps that can be provided also as part of his treatment.
 














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