WWYD - Work Issue

[Bluestars]

I am being asked to clean 2 bathrooms and a fridge and a coffee area (large area..testing of machines is done there also). And for under 10.00 an hour, I am not cleaning bathrooms... I have 3 at home I have to clean. I am just not doing it. I wouldn't do it 8 years ago in retail and I won't do it now. The coffee area wouldn't be such a mess, if all the people that use it would clean as they go. Why should I be punished for them being pigs?? Most of the time I don't wouldn't even have had time to make myself an espresso..it would take too much time out of my day and I would usually have too much work to do. Now we are slowing down..but still.

The job is an office position...administrative/clerical/computer...nothing in there about janitorial. ANd I did ask during the interview if cleaning bathrooms was required...the answer was NO.

If my boss is too cheap to hire a cleaning crew (and yes he is very cheap), then since it is his company, it should be his responsiblity to clean it...not mine and not for under 10.00/hour. If I wanted to be a cleaning person I would be making alot more then that for cleaning!!

I was asking the best way of presenting it to him..since I do not plan on cleaning the bathroom or the gross coffee area. Under the syrups there is hardened carmel and mold, because those adding carmel to their lattes never cleaned up the over flow . I am not being paid to be there maid. If the others want to do it...go for it. It doesn't mean I have to, even if it means I get fired.

It is a part time job, yes I do need the money...will I die without it...no, but I found this job, I would find another one. I also don't think he will fire me over this (he wouldn't want to pay the unemployment insurance)!!

I agree with you on the bathroom part. If that wasn't part of my job at hiring, I would not be happy cleaning a public restroom. I wouldn't mind cleaning the frig or the drink area, but I draw the line at public restrooms.

Your boss is cheap to not pay someone to do this. If I needed the job, I would suck it up and do it. If I didn't need the job, I would find something else and then quit.

 

[JoiseyMom]

Think again. I am English, the Enlish way of that term is spoilt so stop trying to be a smart @rse and stop trying to teach an English person the ENGLISH language.

And I would know you were English?? How??

 

[JoiseyMom]

You are making out its someone elses issue. It isnt, its yours. Your all incredulous that your boss has asked you to do additional stuff. I think they've been reasonable, they have spread the work out and from the sounds of it everyone is ok with it bar poor old you. I'd wave you out the door



ah, the old "im too good and im too important". You'll see just how important you are and the answer to this is not as important as the rest of the workers who are going to be upset if you pick and choose your work.

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Nah, it probably wont be harsh because people like you will just put on someone else to bail you out. You'll regret it the day you HAVE to work and noone will employ you because your track record is littered with walkouts or sackings because you dont want to do what your job role is.

I am not happy because he asked me to clean bathrooms. SOmething I asked about at the beginning. SHould I be happy if my DH changed the rules and said honey, our marriage will include Sally from work?? No, dealbreaker. Why is that so bad that I don't want a job that requires me to clean?

And it is not that I am so important...my boss is rather picky shall we say. There are alot of people he will just not hire. With me he has a very over qualified person who can handle all the office work thrown at her, and can do some of his programming to boot, for really low wages. He has the better end of the deal. I have a job that I am willing to accept the pay, becuase the job is local, and the hours are good. We all get what we want.

People like me?? THere are groups of people that wont clean for money?? Are we a protectec class ?? LMAO. Sweetie...no one has to bail me out. I am a hard worker and a survivor since I was a teen. The day I have to work?? I have worked most of my adult life. My DH and I made a choice 9 years ago for me to be a SAHM. I have worked on and off part time around my kids schedule during that time mostly. I will not be putting part time jobs on my resume, they won't mean anything since they aren't in my career field, if I ever go back to my chosen career. And I have don't have a track record of being fired or walkouts. And when is it bad to leave a job??

And I do work...I work from 6 AM at home until I crash at 11 PM, and I am usally so busy at my paid job, that I don't have the opportunity to use the bathroom he wants me to clean, until my shift is over!

 

[JoiseyMom]

That wasnt the point. The point was is that you shouldnt be so quick to make smart comments without thinking.

It wasn't a smart alec comment, I was correcting something I saw as being spelled incorrectly. It's being a mom and constantly correcting kids .

 

[JoiseyMom]

employers tend not to like people who just move around from job to job, especially since its stability they are after. As for the rest, I dont think anyone has an issue with you per say, it is entirely your decision to go if you dont like it. What people are saying is that the tone appeared to be "whiney" about your boss wanting you to do some extra work.

As for the Sally analogy, as amusing as it was its a poor one. You husband has took a legal oath that he wont go with other women. Your boss has done no such thing regarding your duties. If you dont like the new ones then just go. No one can call you for that, you just appear to be playing the billy big boots and testing how important you are to him. Thats just how it comes accross.

Well I haven't moved from job to job..... I am not a job hopper. If my boss wanted a stable person he got one with me, not with some of the college students he had issues iwth in the past. Where have I been a job hopper?? If I leave this job and get another one? That will make me a job hopper?? If I do leave this job, I will tell the truth on any subsequent jobs, why I left this one. I have nothing to hide. I don't feel it is a crime to not want to clean toilets.

 

[bubblesheep]

It wasn't a smart alec comment, I was correcting something I saw as being spelled incorrectly. It's being a mom and constantly correcting kids .

my apologies it just came across that way.

 

[kilee]

I find that usually my employee who think they are the "best" and that there is no way I'd let them go.....are the ones I end up firing because they were not the best.

Frankly, you can be great technically at your job but having a bad attitude can kill you professionally. Could be one of the reasons you are working at a job that you appear to be underpaid at.

Being a team player is key to success these days. If everyone else has to clean too, then I'd just do it.

 

[Pumbaa_]

loving this thread. Amazing the folks that feel so passionately on this issue

I forgot to ask earlier, who used to clean the bathrooms?

 

[JoiseyMom]

I find that usually my employee who think they are the "best" and that there is no way I'd let them go.....are the ones I end up firing because they were not the best.

Frankly, you can be great technically at your job but having a bad attitude can kill you professionally. Could be one of the reasons you are working at a job that you appear to be underpaid at.

Being a team player is key to success these days. If everyone else has to clean too, then I'd just do it.

I am working at a job I am over qualified for, because I wanted a part time job with mommy hours. If I wanted to go back full time in my career I would. ANd my at work is fine, and yes, I am good at what I do. AM I the best, no I am sure I do lots of things better, I am still learning...large learning curve on espresso machines. Can I be replaced..of course I can..no one is not replaceable. That decision is up to my boss and how he wants to handle it.

 

[JoiseyMom]

loving this thread. Amazing the folks that feel so passionately on this issue

I forgot to ask earlier, who used to clean the bathrooms?

The boss cleaned the bathrooms, and I think sometimes the full time tech. It isn't usually done during my working hours.

 

[FlightlessDuck]

I think the coffee area should be clean as you go. It's ridiculous that you would be required to clean someone else's mess, especially if you don't even use the coffee machines.

However, I do clean up the coffee area in our office, but that's more because I can't stand seeing coffee puddles on the counter. And I drink the coffee.

 

[Wishing on a star]

TEN pages now...

OP, just what is it that you are wanting here????

Are you being a Troll and just loving the attention???

Were you seriously thinking that you would get a huge pat on the back because of your stand that you will not be subjected to such workplace abuse???

Or, do you seriously think that we are all gonna start flaming your boss... I mean, really "HOW DARE HE!!!!!!"

All I can do at this point is and

 

[Luvchefmic]

I find that usually my employee who think they are the "best" and that there is no way I'd let them go.....are the ones I end up firing because they were not the best.

Frankly, you can be great technically at your job but having a bad attitude can kill you professionally. Could be one of the reasons you are working at a job that you appear to be underpaid at.

Being a team player is key to success these days. If everyone else has to clean too, then I'd just do it.

Totally agree...and I'll bet anything that you as an employer "cringe" with the employees that whine "that's not my job or in my job description". I've never been a boss but I have always had happy bosses why because I roll up my sleeves and do what needs to be done....period!

 

[dis-happy]

Totally agree...and I'll bet anything that you as an employer "cringe" with the employees that whine "that's not my job or in my job description".

My dh used to do quite a bit a hiring for the For. 500 company he worked for. One of his trick interview questions: "tell me about a time you had to do something outside of your job description." One woman, who was near the top of the "could be hired" pile, actually started complaining about having to do some things not in her job description, etc. Needless to say, she (her resume) was permanently moved to the round file.

 

[Luvchefmic]

My dh used to do quite a bit a hiring for the For. 500 company he worked for. One of his trick interview questions: "tell me about a time you had to do something outside of your job description." One woman, who was near the top of the "could be hired" pile, actually started complaining about having to do some things not in her job description, etc. Needless to say, she (her resume) was permanently moved to the round file.

Know anyone hiring in Central FL? I am your WOMAN!

 

[C.Ann]

Wow! All this fuss over being asked to share duties with others? Even if this was not in your job description when you were hired, things change..

Seems you've made your choice, so I'm not sure why you're still arguing with people..

Someone else will be glad to take your place, so just tell your boss you're resigning - effective immediately.. No muss, no fuss..

 

[horseshowmom]

I agree with you on the bathroom part. If that wasn't part of my job at hiring, I would not be happy cleaning a public restroom. I wouldn't mind cleaning the frig or the drink area, but I draw the line at public restrooms.

If I needed the job, I would suck it up and do it. If I didn't need the job, I would find something else and then quit.

I agree.

I totally understand where posters are coming from. I also believe in doing whatever needs done regardless of job description........with the exception of cleaning the bathrooms. The OP specifically asked that question on hiring and explained why.

I don't really understand why posters want to say that the poster thinks she's too good to clean public bathrooms. She has an aversion to it, and she's certainly within her rights to feel that way. However, I would do as the first poster above stated and resign my position. If the employer asked why, I would give my reasons in a non-accusing manner and part on good terms hopefully.

Yes I would rather lose my job then clean a bathroom. No apologizies for that. And as a side note, he can't bad mouth me other employers..he can be sued.

I do want to add that you shouldn't count too highly on this. Knowing that he does it and proving it is two different things. I currently know of a situation where an employee looking for another position was maliciously slandered when they applied for a better job at another company.

This individual is an excellent employee who had the misfortune to cross someone in the company (supervised a friend of someone higher up and the friend wouldn't do their work - complained to the higher up that they were being "picked on" when the individual tried to make them accountable). The individual found out about what happened "through the grapevine" but can't prove that it happened.

It stinks, but it happens.

 

[usnuzuloose]

loving this thread. Amazing the folks that feel so passionately on this issue

I forgot to ask earlier, who used to clean the bathrooms?

Well the job I had was rather weird, we had step by step instructions to clean the bathrooms, we had to wash the walls, ceiling, and use toothbrushes in corners we were not allowed to miss a beat. They use to have some one come out every year and test us. If we missed any step or be out of order we failed. And that was not our only requirement. It was our cooler, store, dumpster and all inbetween. This was a gas station. And I have had my share of extremly nasty. So I would be ok with just to do a normal clean. so I hope she can consider herself fortunate. And just to clean the bathroom it took us about an hour and a half for one bathroom. Jo

 

[Planogirl]

Something similar happened to me.

When I interviewed for my present job, I was assured that there would be little answering of phones. I knew that it was a small part of the job and that everyone took turns but I wanted to be sure that it would remain that way. I was assured that it would.

I had done the customer service thing and it so wasn't for me. I did it well but I hated it!

Of course, the company later on decided to outsource most of the job functions but kept the customer service part of it in the U.S. so that they would look good. Many people quit or were fired and we are now a small group just answering phones. Yes, I hate it passionately. I have to stay for now though for insurance and vacation reasons and then I hope to leave.

You have a choice: either quit or do what they want. Companies don't care what you want, they only worry about what needs doing. Arguing or complaining might make you feel better but I doubt that it will matter a bit to Management.

 

[BellePrincessBelle]

It will if it since it was discussed during the itnerview. I asked him, is cleaning bathrooms a job requirment/duty I will have to do. He said NO. Cleaning bathrooms was not a job dutie.

He can, however, change your duties as your boss. If you refuse it's your choice to be fired there for no unemployement.