Wow...Outrage over Stroller Rental Price Increase...What's that About?

[nenner1]

Wow, Dscott. Glad MY MOM does not share your point of view.
I was two there, btw.

Carry on.

 

[tydna]

What's so sad is that, unless he is browsing without logging in, dscott1996's not even aware of the fallout his ignorance-laden post has created.

 

[EltonJohn]

I heard Pete's rant today and usually love them, but the stroller issues just doesn't justify these emotions.

There is no reason for an infant to be lugged around Disney World! If you live near there or are stopping in as part of a trip etc. fine, but the level of poor parenting or lazy parenting at DW is insane. My personal hope is that families with young children (under 5) will reconsider going. They should not be lugging children around the parks for hours on end. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed, but I see these huge groups with babies, or toddlers who won't remember the trip, who are getting nothing out of it, who shouldn't be there.

I'm all for families and know that every circumstance is different, but frankly the stroller parking lots outside ride after ride is ridiculous. We took our self-sufficient children (meaning they could walk as we needed too for the trip) and our backpack of supplies and we don't inconvenience anyone on our visit to the magic kingdom. Our memories are vivid. Our kids loved it. And hopefully Disney's new prices will make some of those crazy families dragging crying children, tired children, sunburned children through the parks for their benefit and not their kids to think twice.!

ITA. That's also the sound advice that comes from the Unofficial Guide. The book's writers were reminded of the kid who got the neat train set for Christmas. You know the train that he couldn't play with because Dad was always tinkering with it. The kid always wondered who the train set was really for.

And to add something to the above, if a child has a life-threatening illness and is coming to WDW as a wish or something that's fine because they may not get another opportunity.

BTW, I too, wrote am email to Guest Services, after all many posters were encouraging it on these stroller threads I complimented Disney on their wonderful guest service and how fair they are being towards guests who are getting tired of being rammed by their strollers. Getting tired of walking around in a congested park. Getting tired of parents of older children contributing to the congestion by not making their child walk. Getting tired of guests contributing to the congestion by using strollers as shopping carts (even though Disney has free parcel pick-up and will deliver purchases to rooms of guests who are staying on property). Perhaps Disney's next move to is charge people a nominal fee who bring in their own strollers and EVCs. I, for one, would welcome that too You're not the only ones who go to WDW.

And as for Pete and others saying that what Disney is doing is "not fair!"
1. Last time I heard that phrase was when a child was SCREAMING it. That should tell you something right there.
2. We live in a free-market society. Disney is not forcing people to rent their strollers. If guests don't like the price then they can rent or buy a stroller from a different business. Go to a Communist country to see what is really "not fair". Read a history book about the monoploies of the Gilded Age. That was not "fair".
3. I have not heard one single logical argument that supports that claim.
4. If what Disney is doing is "not fair" then why aren't the Feds bringing up charges against Disney? Like the feds going after Microsoft that surely would be front page news.

 

[tydna]

^^^

The fact that people can be rude does not deserve a tax.

And people have the right to be wrong, stupid, or both.

My mother has Multiple Sclerosis -- shame on her for coming to WDW, too? Is it fair that she has to pay more to rent an ECV?

The ignorance here, it kills me.

 

[kimbac3]

And to add something to the above, if a child has a life-threatening illness and is coming to WDW as a wish or something that's fine because they may not get another opportunity.

There is no way of knowing if any of us will get another opportunity. Life is unpredictable and goes fast. I know I'm not blessed with a crystal ball to see how many trips I or my children have in us

By the way I bring in my own wheelchair. Disney's wheelchairs are hideously uncomfortable, plus I use the chair in "real life" too. If Disney decided to charge me for the "privilege" of using my own chair..I'd be spending my vacation dollars elsewhere.

Honestly...the way some people think...

Kimba

 

[fav's=mets&mickey]

ITA. That's also the sound advice that comes from the Unofficial Guide. The book's writers were reminded of the kid who got the neat train set for Christmas. You know the train that he couldn't play with because Dad was always tinkering with it. The kid always wondered who the train set was really for.

And to add something to the above, if a child has a life-threatening illness and is coming to WDW as a wish or something that's fine because they may not get another opportunity.

BTW, I too, wrote am email to Guest Services, after all many posters were encouraging it on these stroller threads I complimented Disney on their wonderful guest service and how fair they are being towards guests who are getting tired of being rammed by their strollers. Getting tired of walking around in a congested park. Getting tired of parents of older children contributing to the congestion by not making their child walk. Getting tired of guests contributing to the congestion by using strollers as shopping carts (even though Disney has free parcel pick-up and will deliver purchases to rooms of guests who are staying on property). Perhaps Disney's next move to is charge people a nominal fee who bring in their own strollers and EVCs. I, for one, would welcome that too You're not the only ones who go to WDW.

And as for Pete and others saying that what Disney is doing is "not fair!"
1. Last time I heard that phrase was when a child was SCREAMING it. That should tell you something right there.
2. We live in a free-market society. Disney is not forcing people to rent their strollers. If guests don't like the price then they can rent or buy a stroller from a different business. Go to a Communist country to see what is really "not fair". Read a history book about the monoploies of the Gilded Age. That was not "fair".
3. I have not heard one single logical argument that supports that claim.
4. If what Disney is doing is "not fair" then why aren't the Feds bringing up charges against Disney? Like the feds going after Microsoft that surely would be front page news.

You must not like going out at all then..........because strollers are everywhere...........malls, general stores, the sidewalk.........

and to the comment about us not being the only people who go to WDW.......AH hello are you the only one that goes......I think not.........

WOW......I guess there are some people who just don't get it............this is about raising prices 60%-70%.....if DISNEY is so concerned about the amount of strollers then they should require the CM's to make customers who are renting them show their kids and also make requirements of stroller use.......put wieght limits and allow only families with 2 children who meet the height and weight requirements to be able to rent the appropriate stroller......not just raise prices......that is what is we are complaining about not the fact that they want to limit the amount of strollers in the park.....I guess you will complain about wheel chairs as well.........people like you should not be able to go to WDW because you don't enjoy kids. Kids are why Disney is Disney.............DIsney and PIXAR is making millions not because of you but because the kids under 10 that LOVE TOY STORY, BUG'S LIFE, The Incredibles, NEMO, RATATOUILLE, and that is just to name a few. So take your little sensitive self and get out of WDW if you don't like the people around you because this is supposed to be the happiest place on earth where all people no matter how different can enjoy a good time together. WHERE UNALIENABLE RIGHTS actually exist.

 

[fav's=mets&mickey]

^^^

The fact that people can be rude does not deserve a tax.

And people have the right to be wrong, stupid, or both.

My mother has Multiple Sclerosis -- shame on her for coming to WDW, too? Is it fair that she has to pay more to rent an ECV?

The ignorance here, it kills me.

I want to apologize to you because it is true........we are all calling it a stroller rental increase because that is the increase that went up the highest percentage but the ECV increase is also inconsiderate........last time I checked they don't run on gas so there is no reason for them to go up too........its unfair to people who need that type of transportation to be able to get around.............they are more in need in my opinion than some of the kids.....including my very own......so don't start flaming me........I mean the ECV is something that is a lot harder to get to and from disney so these people will have no choice to pay the increase unlike us who are just complaining about the stroller increase.....we need to address the ECV situation as well........again my apology for not thinking about the ECV increase as well.

 

[EltonJohn]

people like you should not be able to go to WDW because you don't enjoy kids. Kids are why Disney is Disney.............DIsney and PIXAR is making millions not because of you but because the kids under 10 that LOVE TOY STORY, BUG'S LIFE, The Incredibles, NEMO, RATATOUILLE, and that is just to name a few. So take your little sensitive self and get out of WDW if you don't like the people around you because this is supposed to be the happiest place on earth where all people no matter how different can enjoy a good time together. WHERE UNALIENABLE RIGHTS actually exist.

Thank you so much for making me laugh today! Thank you also for dignifying my post

I predict the mods will close this thread.

 

[Stroller Boy]

ITA. That's also the sound advice that comes from the Unofficial Guide. The book's writers were reminded of the kid who got the neat train set for Christmas. You know the train that he couldn't play with because Dad was always tinkering with it. The kid always wondered who the train set was really for.

And to add something to the above, if a child has a life-threatening illness and is coming to WDW as a wish or something that's fine because they may not get another opportunity.

BTW, I too, wrote am email to Guest Services, after all many posters were encouraging it on these stroller threads I complimented Disney on their wonderful guest service and how fair they are being towards guests who are getting tired of being rammed by their strollers. Getting tired of walking around in a congested park. Getting tired of parents of older children contributing to the congestion by not making their child walk. Getting tired of guests contributing to the congestion by using strollers as shopping carts (even though Disney has free parcel pick-up and will deliver purchases to rooms of guests who are staying on property). Perhaps Disney's next move to is charge people a nominal fee who bring in their own strollers and EVCs. I, for one, would welcome that too You're not the only ones who go to WDW.

And as for Pete and others saying that what Disney is doing is "not fair!"
1. Last time I heard that phrase was when a child was SCREAMING it. That should tell you something right there.
2. We live in a free-market society. Disney is not forcing people to rent their strollers. If guests don't like the price then they can rent or buy a stroller from a different business. Go to a Communist country to see what is really "not fair". Read a history book about the monoploies of the Gilded Age. That was not "fair".
3. I have not heard one single logical argument that supports that claim.
4. If what Disney is doing is "not fair" then why aren't the Feds bringing up charges against Disney? Like the feds going after Microsoft that surely would be front page news.

Nothing to do with the stroller prices, but I've a question for you based on your comments. Given the economy and job security; wouldn't you say that in many cases it's quite possible that one trip may be all that a family EVER makes? So to say to people, as DScott put it, should wait till their kids are 5 (or come down with a life threatening disease as you put it) is just ridiculous in my humble opinion. C'mon guys, sometimes you have to take the opportunities when they are there cause life may not give you another shot. I've a whole new understanding of tollerance and patience from having children, and believe most others in the parks do as well..

Also, I'm not sure what your point is comparing communism to this argument? Is it fundamentally wrong for the folks who use the strollers to give feedback to the company running the place they hold dear? If anything, their voices are the epitome of freedom... Where's Sam Eagle when I need him..

Oh, and honestly, on the behavior side of the house, I have also seen MANY more adults acting idiotically than the children in the parks. When was the last time two kids duked it out in the teacup line! LOL

Good thought provoking note, EJ.

 

[tydna]

Thank you so much for making me laugh today! Thank you also for dignifying my post

I predict the mods will close this thread.

I want to hear you dignify the increase in pricing for the ECV for people who need them. The stroller issue and people's opinions on whether they are needed or not is a dead horse.

Raising the price on a piece of medical equipment that does not run on fuel?

I'll wait for you to dignify that. God forbid you ever require one.

 

[tydna]

You owe me no apology ... no worries.

I want to apologize to you because it is true........we are all calling it a stroller rental increase because that is the increase that went up the highest percentage but the ECV increase is also inconsiderate........last time I checked they don't run on gas so there is no reason for them to go up too........its unfair to people who need that type of transportation to be able to get around.............they are more in need in my opinion than some of the kids.....including my very own......so don't start flaming me........I mean the ECV is something that is a lot harder to get to and from disney so these people will have no choice to pay the increase unlike us who are just complaining about the stroller increase.....we need to address the ECV situation as well........again my apology for not thinking about the ECV increase as well.

 

[EltonJohn]

My mother has Multiple Sclerosis -- shame on her for coming to WDW, too? Is it fair that she has to pay more to rent an ECV?

Yes it is fair, and the free-market society we live in backs me up on that. If she doesn't want to pay the amount Disney is asking then she can buy or rent from a competitor. If it was not fair then the Feds would be on Disney's backs about it.

The ignorance here, it kills me.

So those who disagree with you are ignorant?

 

[Stroller Boy]

Yes it is fair, and the free-market society we live in backs me up on that. If she doesn't want to pay the amount Disney is asking then she can buy or rent from a competitor. If it was not fair then the Feds would be on Disney's backs about it.



So those who disagree with you are ignorant?

I think we need a group hug, LOL

 

[tydna]

Yes it is fair, and the free-market society we live in backs me up on that. If she doesn't want to pay the amount Disney is asking then she can buy or rent from a competitor. If it was not fair then the Feds would be on Disney's backs about it.



So those who disagree with you are ignorant?

The government does not govern fairness. They govern based on laws and rights. Something being unfair is neither illegal or unconstitutional. The "feds" have their proverbial hands in enough affairs and issues already. That's the last thing we need -- more federal involvement.

You seem, in your post, to justify the fairness of this price increase based mostly on the usage of the strollers by people, who in your opinion, do not need them.

My question to you, going with that line of thinking, was if my mother needed to be punished for her disease and the fact that she MUST have an ECV to make her way around the park.

Finally -- no, simply disagreeing with a viewpoint does not make one ignorant. But, you do not see every side of this story -- yet you seem to speak as though you alone are right and everyone else is wrong. That make you, in my opinion, speaking ignorantly.

 

[kimbac3]

Yes it is fair, and the free-market society we live in backs me up on that. If she doesn't want to pay the amount Disney is asking then she can buy or rent from a competitor. If it was not fair then the Feds would be on Disney's backs about it.

Yes but you also advocated having wheelchair users/ecv users being charged to bring in their own. Why should I be charged a fee to enter a park with my own "legs"?????

 

[LilGMom]

And as for Pete and others saying that what Disney is doing is "not fair!"
1. Last time I heard that phrase was when a child was SCREAMING it. That should tell you something right there.

Actually the last time I heard this was from my DH when I told him that we really don't need another Mustang in the garage/driveway and a GT500 isn't really a "family" vehicle.

I'd have no major problem with the increase if the increase weren't between 50% and 72%. That is a huge increase. Every year we see the resort prices increase, the dining at WDW increase (just look at the new Le Cellier steak price ), the cost to park, etc. We aren't getting more for our money and I accept that prices of things go up but a 72% increase is a lot especially when it is for something that so many families rely on.

We are close enough that we drive to WDW so we'll be driving our kids, and their new double stroller, but I really feel for the parents that are either at or soon to be going to WDW and have no idea about the increase. And I feel for the ones that fly and due to restrictions don't bring their stroller. And I feel for those people that rely on ECV's to get around the parks in order to enjoy their vacations with their families. To sit there and say

Perhaps Disney's next move to is charge people a nominal fee who bring in their own strollers and EVCs. I, for one, would welcome that too. You're not the only ones who go to WDW

is ridiculous. I have dealt with much ruder people who didn't have strollers than people with strollers.

 

[MenashaCorp]

I think we need a group hug, LOL

You got that right. Lots of vitriol in a forum that has been one of the most positive overall.

 

[drakethib]

Actually the last time I heard this was from my DH when I told him that we really don't need another Mustang in the garage/driveway and a GT500 isn't really a "family" vehicle. .

How dare you say a GT500 is not a family vehicle.

You must be related to my wife because she tells me the same thing.

 

[JB2K]

I want to hear you dignify the increase in pricing for the ECV for people who need them.

How about "excessive wear and tear"?????

Too many times, the ECVs have been rented/used/abused by those who don't have a bona fide need for them -- if you don't believe me, anyone out there ever seen teenagers racing through the parks on these things?

As for those with disabilities, there are plenty of medical supply places near WDW that will rent/deliver ECVs -- and usually, at a much better rate than the parks (I expect you'll hear more about these places, as they'll gladly undercut Disney's price).

 

[ekball]

Just have to chime in and say that I think this is the first time, since becoming a mom 4.5 years ago, that I wish I could hunt someone down and ram my stroller into their ankles!!



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