Would you cross a picket line?

[hornedfrog]

Not true. I know many union employees that receive ongoing training to keep up to date on procedures and new products.

As a matter of fact, if they don't complete the training, they may not get paid for a job that they did.

What your saying is true. But it doesn't mean that what I'm saying isn't true.

For example, this week I was required to take 5 hours of training. I still had to do my regular work, which takes me 40 hours. I therefore worked 45 hours this week. I received no OT. No OT is authorized for ANYONE in my department right now, union or management. I am not entitled to it, so not a factor.

That same training was NOT required/offered to the union/non-management people. Because they needed the 40 hours of work out of them. They couldn't get by with letting them work 35 hours and devoting the other 5 to training.

It happens ALL the time. The union people get the training that they need. But the managers get (and when I say 'get' what I mean is 'are required to complete') more.

 

[Mom2Nick]

You missed my point. You can't MAKE an employee work at all. If an employee finds an employers demands unreasonable, they can quit. It is the ability to find work elsewhere that safeguards us against employer abuse, not the FLSA.

In my opinion, employers and employees should be able to reach any mutually agreeable terms of employment and the law should only get involved if one of them breaches those terms. Some people might not balk at working long hours for straight pay. Heck, I work long hours and I don't get paid extra for them at all. Fortunately, the FLSA allows me the flexibility to to do that. Sadly, for others the government has taken away that freedom.

I didn't miss your point - I was just pointing only the only reason I know why someone would work and legally not get paid overtime Many people just don't understand that overtime pay is only required for anything above 40 hours of actual work.

 

[bicker]

What you're forgetting is that some of the Dept of Labor laws in place do not apply to many professions. ...
Exemptions from Overtime Pay Only

I am exempt from overtime pay, as well. Many many many workers are subject to the same conditions that you are highlighting, and don't have unions, and shouldn't, because they should be dealing with their employment issues without resorting to unfair collusion, which would be criminal conspiracy, if it were not for federal laws exempting prosecution, laws that were put in place when unions served a public good. Now that unions no longer serve a public good, those protections are no longer defensible, and union workers should not have any special protections against laws against collusion.

Again, there is nothing that makes these specific workers you are advocating special privileges for worthy of those special privileges. Their situations are just like everyone else's and so they should be treated no better than anyone else is.

 

[phorsenuf]

I was talking with my husband tonight and he said AT&T was going to strike this weekend Can anyone confirm that?

 

[veraletta]

No way I 'm not a scab!

 

[LivinInTheCastle]

Yup, my family is more important than worrying about what a union wants.