Would you cross a picket line?

[hornedfrog]

Unfortunately it will do no good to list the other issues, some dealing with the safety of the worker. I just wish people would do more time researching and less time offering their opinions without knowing the FACTS!

I have read all the the 'facts' posted on the CWA sites. Even if taken as truth, which relates to the safety of the worker?

 

[ReneeA]

No way.

 

[Eeyores Butterfly]

I would depending on the situation. I don't know enough about the AT&T situatin to comment specifically on that so this is all hypothetical.

If I felt the union was striking for a legitimate reason and that no harm to innocents would come of the strike then I would not cross the line. When I think of legitimate reasons I am thinking of abuse towards the workers, things that impact the safety of the workers and those they work with, etc. Not things like negotiating a better salary than the one you agreed to or insisting on benefits that have the potential to put the company in bad financial straights.

The other issue is who will be harmed by the strike. I plan to go into teaching and if the teachers' union where I work ever strikes you can bet your booty that I will cross in a heartbeat unless there is something really serious leading to the strike (like something that has an immediate safety impact on my students). When teachers strike it is the students and their families who suffer. The same thing with a profession like nursing. It is not the patients' fault that the nurses are striking. Even if they have a very legitimate reason for striking, I would wish them the best of luck and then cross so that somebody is taking care of hte patients.

WDW has a very strong union, especially in entertainment. While I am not overly fond of unions they did a tremendous amount of good. The working conditions I enjoyed as an intern were in many cases the direct result of the union's work. It's hard when the people making the policies have never done your very physically demanding job, and we needed the unions to step in and say that the policies were harmful. Also, since entertainment was global and we worked with different people/managers every day. The union helped to step in when there were misunderstandings or shenanigans (as can easily happen when you have a large workforce that is that mobile). I very rarely saw people who should have been fired keeping their jobs, rather people keeping jobs that were in danger due to misunderstandings, subjective and questionable enforcement of misunderstood policies, or just plain bad management. What would I have done if the union struck? As an intern I would have had no choice but to cross. I would have because it is not the guests' fault that the union decided to strike and so many people save up for years to come here, or come here on their last wish, etc. and the characters are such an integral part of that experience. It's a tough situation all the way around.

 

[Nancy]

A lot of folks posting on this thread wrongly believe that this contract is "ALL" about healthcare. There are so many other issues that I feel if you don't know what the whole situation is about either get educated about it or stop posting. Since neither of those two things are going to happen I am trying "unsuccessfully" to stay away from this thread!

Unfortunately it will do no good to list the other issues, some dealing with the safety of the worker. I just wish people would do more time researching and less time offering their opinions without knowing the FACTS!

But this thread was not if they are wrong to strike nor was is about the issues. It was titled 'would you cross a picket line" the only issue mentioned was the healthcare issue. Telling people here that they shouldn't respond to a topic posted here without being educated? I don't get that attitude at all

 

[ols386]

But this thread was not if they are wrong to strike nor was is about the issues. It was titled 'would you cross a picket line" the only issue mentioned was the healthcare issue. Telling people here that they shouldn't respond to a topic posted here without being educated? I don't get that attitude at all

I don't get it either. This is a public forum, where everyone can post their opinions about any topics. That being said, I would cross it.

 

[Cool-Beans]

Oh, hell yes.

If you don't like your j-o-b, go get one you do like and let someone who wants it have yours. There is no way in hell that I'm going to alter my life because you're having temper tantrums, you big babies. Go on strike. Stay on strike until you die for all I care. Ugh.

 

[Pigeon]

I would not cross a picket line.

 

[sbell111]

I would.

 

[dzneprincess]

Oh, hell yes.

If you don't like your j-o-b, go get one you do like and let someone who wants it have yours. There is no way in hell that I'm going to alter my life because you're having temper tantrums, you big babies. Go on strike. Stay on strike until you die for all I care. Ugh.

wow...statements like this make me sad..

 

[wall*e2008]

Realistically that is NOT bad. Our premiums are over $500/month. Our out of pocket after that is very minimal. 90/10 coverage is actually VERY good these days. Many, many, many people have a deductible that high or close to that high before they get ANY coverage. If you add it up, you pay LESS out of pocket then we do if you take your 10% and your premiums combined. We pay about $6240/year in premiums alone. You pay $5600 for premiums and your 10%. In the past there have been thread about how much people pay out of pocket for insurance and typically I have found that we have one of the lower overall cost plans out there and you are lower still.

As for things not being covered--what isn't covered and why? The problem is that people look at the premium cost alone and think it is bad but when you take into consideration ALL costs, sometimes a higher premium actually saves you money in the long run.

Last year between our health insurance premiums and OOP we spent $22K. All of that was with after tax money. We got to write-off the amount that was greater than 7.5% of our income.

To answer the question - Yes I would cross a picket line. I was once a member of a union and it just allowed poor workers with seniority to keep their jobs. The day of the need for unions is over.

 

[wall*e2008]

Unfortunately it will do no good to list the other issues, some dealing with the safety of the worker. I just wish people would do more time researching and less time offering their opinions without knowing the FACTS!

This comment just shows that you do not know the facts. If I wanted to make a point I would also present the facts.

 

[MsDisney23]

Nope, I am a big union member! I will not even use self check out counters in any store.. I feel that when ever I do that I have helped put someone out of work!

 

[C.Ann]

It would depend on whether I agreed with the premise of the reason behind the strike. If I didn't think there was merit in the strike, I would cross.

I view putting up a picket line as the union members imposing their frustration on customers, and such disrespect for customers deserves similar disrespect from customers.

As long as it is safe, I would surely cross a picket line; as long as it were safe, I would surely replace a striking union worker.

I would cross a picket line if it meant I could feed my family.

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Agreed..

 

[birdiesunshine]

This comment just shows that you do not know the facts. If I wanted to make a point I would also present the facts.

I know the facts but I will not fight with ignorant statements. My mother taught me to argue with people that know more than me, not less!

 

[Magic Mom]

I know the facts but I will not fight with ignorant statements. My mother taught me to argue with people that know more than me, not less!

What are the other issues? CWA website was vague (and obviously completely biased), and I didn't see anything about worker safety. They mentioned healthcare, job stability and something about ATT picking up the tab for training existing employees for new jobs.

 

[Rebelmom67]

Oh, hell yes.

If you don't like your j-o-b, go get one you do like and let someone who wants it have yours. There is no way in hell that I'm going to alter my life because you're having temper tantrums, you big babies. Go on strike. Stay on strike until you die for all I care. Ugh.

Damn woman, I like you!! common sense and all that stuff......

I know the facts but I will not fight with ignorant statements. My mother taught me to argue with people that know more than me, not less!

Edited, not worth points or a banning.

 

[merryweather20]

I would absolutely cross a picket line. I have done so in the past. During University my brother and I taught swimming lessons at a pool attached to a Public High School. The first day of a teacher strike I taught special needs students. The first time we went my brother was polite, but after there treatment of my students we didn't bother for future classes, and my brother just gunned the engine and watched them jump out of the way.

Anyone that would perform vulgar gestures to a minor attending much needed therapy doesn't deserve my compassion. It was all the more upsetting to see this behaviour from teachers.

Since I was paid by the city, and not the school board, and the pool wing was city property, I haven't the foggiest what there problem was with me anyway.

 

[hornedfrog]

I know the facts but I will not fight with ignorant statements. My mother taught me to argue with people that know more than me, not less!

I have made no ignorant statements and I do feel that, in this case, I know more than you. So...what is on the table that has anything to do with safety?

 

[birdiesunshine]

Oh, hell yes.

If you don't like your j-o-b, go get one you do like and let someone who wants it have yours. There is no way in hell that I'm going to alter my life because you're having temper tantrums, you big babies. Go on strike. Stay on strike until you die for all I care. Ugh.

I have made no ignorant statements and I do feel that, in this case, I know more than you. So...what is on the table that has anything to do with safety?

I wasn't referring to you at all! Two man areas.

 

[snarlingcoyote]

In general, no, I do not cross picket lines. I'm sure there might be some hypothetical situation where I might possibly cross picket lines, but in general, I do not do so.

I'm just going to say that I've worked as an hourly employee and I've worked inside of board rooms.

And, all things being even, that's why I don't cross picket lines.