Would You Be Willing to pay higher dues?

[HookdonWDW]

I thought that I would try a poll, and see if we could get a more accurate gauge of how people feel about getting H/A rooms.

Some posters have stated that they should not have to receive a h/a room if unless they requested one. Since the h/a rooms have to exist, in order to meet ADA requirements, the only way you could do this is to occasionally let some h/a rooms go empty. I was wondering how much this really means to people. Maybe this poll will shed some additional light.


Then again... maybe not

Lisa

 

[Johnnie Fedora]

I voted no...as we pay hefty dues already. There's no reason to suspect that this would really cost any money at all. I don't want to get in the habit of offering more dues as a way of solving problems like this.

DVC already books dedicated vs lock-off, dedicated with 2 queens vs dedicated with a queen and sofabed, etc. A change to this HC policy may result in less flexibility for Disney to rent out extra DVC rooms for cash. Maybe that is part of the reason we haven't seen it.

 

[HookdonWDW]

I voted no...as we pay hefty dues already. There's no reason to suspect that this would really cost any money at all. I don't want to get in the habit of offering more dues as a way of solving problems like this.

I also have no desire to pay more in dues - but then again, this isn't a do-or-die issue for me. I would rather not have a h/a room, but it wouldn't ruin my vacation. I figured that it would cost money because the loss of revenue for those rooms needs to come from somewhere, and you can bet your bippy that DVD wouldn't be willing to eat the costs.

Remember, the income for the leftover DVC rooms (not DVD) that CRO rents out is used to offset resort expenses (forget what it's called in the budget), and therefore keep our dues lower. If there are rooms that don't rent and aren't used by points reservations, it lowers the amount passed on. Just random thoughts...

 

[Lesley]

We've had h/a rooms before and its only a problem if we're given a h/a studio....which has never happened. With small children we need to have a bath tub. Otherwise I don't worry about it. In a 1br or 2br we still at least have the whirlpool tub for bathing the kids.

 

[sarhenty]

Does anyone know of a website that has pictures of HA rooms in any of the DVC Resorts?

 

[CarolMN]

...(snip).... A change to this HC policy may result in less flexibility for Disney to rent out extra DVC rooms for cash. Maybe that is part of the reason we haven't seen it.

It doesn't have to -

I would like to see them guarantee HA/non-HA up to a certain percentage of the rooms in each resort - maybe 75%. They could make a certain percentage as "luck of the draw" to ensure the room assigners have enough "slack" to keep the resort at high occupancy.

After the "guaranteed" percentage is reached, MS just tells people that their choice is not guaranteed. Those who cannot live with that, can make other arrangements.

IMHO, this system would pretty much guarantee that those who book at their home resorts before the 7 month window opens would get what they want. This would also work for smoking/non-smoking requests.

I see this as a "home resort" owners perk - those who like to stay at non-home resorts may have to take their chances more often than owners who book their home resort, but I think that is fair. Since Disney doesn't guarantee smoking preference or getting a non-HA room at any of its other on site resorts, cash guests always "take their chances" under this proposal.

Since the percentage of these rooms is small, it's not all that much of a chance IMHO. For those who do not want to chance a HA (or smoking/non-smoking) room, they know up front what to expect and can plan accordingly.

Anyway, JMHO. YMMV.

Best wishes -

 

[CarolA]

I would be more then willing to charge a VERY high premium to those who won't stay in a HA room for no reason except "I don't like it" How about $1 a point, or even a "buy in" preimum to gurantee it, maybe a one time $5 per point to cover the cost of empty rooms. (Wonder how many would put thier money where their mouth is?)
I don't think I should pay for any of this nonsense. (As a matter of fact, how about a discount for people who only make 1 request per stay. Then I could get a break. I should be appreicated for not making a bunch of requests which allows those of you with the multiple requests a better shot at your "perfect" room.

 

[Plus4206]

Just let me know when I call MS if the only thing availible is HCA. Let me decide if I want to accept it or change my dates. The same goes for NS.

 

[smjj]

I don't get why people get upset when others make request. I payed a lot to join and pay hefty dues on top of it. If I make a request, I understand it is only a request. I do not see why I should be penalizized simply for making a request or two which I feel would make our trip more enjoyable. The ony request I would be willing to grip about is if I requested a NS room and got one. This has not happended and hopefully would not...smjj

 

[CRSNDSNY]

I would not be willing to pay an increase in dues to guarantee a non-HC room when making a reservation, but I would be willing to sacrifice via dues if it would guarantee a non-smoking room.

 

[Alexander]

I am not seeing how any of this makes sense! By letting the H/A rooms go empty does not necessarily mean it should cost us more. Many nights out of the year there are rooms that go empty h/a and others. We don't have to pay more dues for those rooms. I would think that if there was availability for a non h/a room, then just take it. If not, then take the h/a room or stay somewhere else. I'm really not understanding what the poll is asking. If we pay more dues how does that assure that we may not get a h/a room? They can't reduce the number of h/a rooms due to ADA regulations. As CarolA said they could only guarantee so many people a non h/a room because there are only so many rooms that are non h/a. If given a choice of staying at a particular resort or not because of a h/a room, we would take the h/a room everytime. And we stay in studios where it is usually more inconvenient.

 

[LIFERBABE]

I am not seeing how any of this makes sense! By letting the H/A rooms go empty does not necessarily mean it should cost us more. Many nights out of the year there are rooms that go empty h/a and others. We don't have to pay more dues for those rooms. I would think that if there was availability for a non h/a room, then just take it. If not, then take the h/a room or stay somewhere else. I'm really not understanding what the poll is asking. If we pay more dues how does that assure that we may not get a h/a room? They can't reduce the number of h/a rooms due to ADA regulations. As CarolA said they could only guarantee so many people a non h/a room because there are only so many rooms that are non h/a. If given a choice of staying at a particular resort or not because of a h/a room, we would take the h/a room everytime. And we stay in studios where it is usually more inconvenient.

I dont see the correlation either. Who's to say these rooms would go empty. They would just be occupied by informed members that were expecting to stay in one because that's what was available when they booked.
The resort would still operate at the same capacity levels as always.

As I've said before, they offer guaranteed BW view and the dues did not increase because people chose not to stay in other preferred view rooms and those rooms definitely dont sit empty. All DVD did was manage expectations at the point of reservation. When you reserve, you know that you will not get BW view or that you will get it.

If they can guarantee views and bedding without increases in dues, why not other categories?

 

[Plus4206]

"They would just be occupied by informed members that were expecting to stay in one because that's what was available when they booked.
The resort would still operate at the same capacity levels as always.

If they can guarantee views and bedding without increases in dues, why not other categories?[/QUOTE]"

That's assuming they would inform you when you called that the HCA was all that was availible & you accepted it.

As for the second part of your post: They didn't raise your dues to guarantee a BW view, they upped the points. This way it only affects YOU and not the rest of the membership.

 

[CarolMN]

...(snip)....They didn't raise your dues to guarantee a BW view, they upped the points. .....

They did not "up the points". There was no change in the point requirements when they made the Boardwalk view a separate booking category. The BW view rooms cost the same number of points as the other Preferred view rooms.

Best wishes -

 

[DVC-Don]

I got a HA unit once at the BCV and it did not bother us at all. I do not see what the big stink is if one gets a HA unit once and a while.

 

[disworldnum1]

We had a one bedroom last Easter and it was right next to the elevators near the front desk.The room was a nice change and the only difference seemed to be the shower.I would not want to pay another dime unless it was to make a non-smoking resort.But thats another survey..lol

 

[LIFERBABE]

That's assuming they would inform you when you called that the HCA was all that was availible & you accepted it.

The way I read the OP is that if DVC offered guarantee status for HA rooms, the rooms would sit empty because no one would knowingly choose them if they didnt need one, therefore increasing dues.

My response was that if MS informed the member at time of ressie that all there was available was a HA or Smoking room the member would be informed of what they were receiving.

As to the second part, to the best of my knowledge, the point schedule did not change, when the guaranteed BW view category was created. Nor did the dues increase for others. The BW has Preferred view points and Standard view points.

 

[Plus4206]

Okay, maybe I'm talking about something different. BWV offers Standard & Prefered with Prefered requiring more points. Is there something else they offer ? BW view guaranteed ? I assumed when you said BW view you were refering to Prefered.

 

[LIFERBABE]

Okay, maybe I'm talking about something different. BWV offers Standard & Prefered with Prefered requiring more points. Is there something else they offer ? BW view guaranteed ? I assumed when you said BW view you were refering to Prefered.

Okay I see what you are saying.

No, BWV only has 2 point schedules, Standard and Preferred. BW view has always required Preferred points.
BW view was never available on standard view points, unless you were upgraded at check in, which can still happen but is very rare.

There was no increase in points or dues when this "guaranteed category" was created.

The same could be done for Non Smoking or HA categories with no associated rise in points or dues.

 

[Plus4206]

I know BWV has two point schedules -Standard & Prefered. If you are willing to spend more points, and prefered is availible, you will be guaranteed Prefered. Here's my confusion: Prefered view does not mean BW. It could be pools,garden,BW or something other then a parking lot. I've never heard of them guarantee'ing a BW view.... only Prefered. Is BW view guarantee something new ?