Would you be mad

[donaldduck352]

To day DW and I was driving thru downtown when we seen a car nail a pedestrain crossing the street.We automaticly stopped and I ran too see the person that got hit.He was a older fellow,he was covered with blood and it was comming from his mouth.Buy this time a crowd grew.I told the guy DO NOT MOVE you just got hit by a car.He did'nt responde.His eyes were rolling up and clearly out of it.But his body I guess was telling him to get up.I restrained him alittle from moving and tryied talking to him to calm him down,but this guy was strong so I only restained him as much as possible without adding more injury then he already had recieved.I took off my jacket to help him from pounding his head in the ground everytime he moved.

Well what seemed like a hour,it was only minutes cops showed up.I was like great some help.But they told me to stop what I was doing very sturnly.I did'nt and one grabbed me and pulled me off the guy.I watched for at least 5mins this guy struggling in pain till the paremedics showed up.NOT ONE cop touched him.I was so mad I started yelling at them.They told me to stop or I'll be put in cuffs.

My DW is a nurse and told me after that touching a hurt person in the great state of FLORIDA you can hurt them more and be opened to bieng suid by him or family.

This is what you get for caring about your fellow man,then the HELL with it anymore!!!!!!!

 

[indimom]

Well, from me, thank you for doing what you could for another human being during very difficult circumstances.

At least you won't feel guilty for not helping. I still harbor some pretty strong guilt from an event that happened nine years ago. My son was hospitalized for three weeks and was in a room with three other young children. There was a baby in the room that had no one there for him except a great aunt who would pop by after work for an hour or so. He was alone all day long, sick and miserable, crying pitifully from time to time, the nurses tried to comfort him when they could, but they were busy with tons of young patients.
I wanted so badly to just hold that baby and rock him, but my husband kept telling me I could not touch someone else's child. It killed me and I've never forgotten it. I'm sure I never will. I wonder where that little boy is today and if he recovered.
Thank you for having the guts to do the right thing.

 

[diz8297]

It is so sad that we as a society are now at a point where we are discouraged from comforting another person in pain. You were compassionate and courageous. It is society that has gotten off track.

 

[Hannathy]

I wanted so badly to just hold that baby and rock him, but my husband kept telling me I could not touch someone else's child. It killed me and I've never forgotten it. I'm sure I never will. I wonder where that little boy is today and if he recovered.

Why didn't you just ask the aunt when she came if she minded if you held him? If she gave you permission that is all that would have been needed. seems pretty easy to figure out to me.

 

[Pakey]

I would not be mad. Sadly, I live in California where a lawsuit is probably filed every nano-second. I would not touch anyone for that very reason; fear of a lawsuit.

 

[Jennasis]

Sure I'd be mad. But thank you for doing what you could. I would have as well.

 

[hereyago]

To day DW and I was driving thru downtown when we seen a car nail a pedestrain crossing the street.We automaticly stopped and I ran too see the person that got hit.He was a older fellow,he was covered with blood and it was comming from his mouth.Buy this time a crowd grew.I told the guy DO NOT MOVE you just got hit by a car.He did'nt responde.His eyes were rolling up and clearly out of it.But his body I guess was telling him to get up.I restrained him alittle from moving and tryied talking to him to calm him down,but this guy was strong so I only restained him as much as possible without adding more injury then he already had recieved.I took off my jacket to help him from pounding his head in the ground everytime he moved.

Well what seemed like a hour,it was only minutes cops showed up.I was like great some help.But they told me to stop what I was doing very sturnly.I did'nt and one grabbed me and pulled me off the guy.I watched for at least 5mins this guy struggling in pain till the paremedics showed up.NOT ONE cop touched him.I was so mad I started yelling at them.They told me to stop or I'll be put in cuffs.

My DW is a nurse and told me after that touching a hurt person in the great state of FLORIDA you can hurt them more and be opened to bieng suid by him or family.

This is what you get for caring about your fellow man,then the HELL with it anymore!!!!!!!

First you rock!!!!!!!!! Second, I am not a big fan of cops, but since you weren't wearing any protection in way of gloves since the man was bleeding, I could see why he did it. The cop, did he have gloves? If not, they aren't about to touch someone bleeding as well.

 

[indimom]

Why didn't you just ask the aunt when she came if she minded if you held him? If she gave you permission that is all that would have been needed. seems pretty easy to figure out to me.

A. It wasn't her child to give permission for.
B. Even if she had, I doubt the hospital would have seen it that way.
C. Thanks for adding to the guilt.

 

[Agri]

I wouldn't do a thing besides call 911 for the simple fact that the man HAD BEEN HIT BY A CAR and I have absolutely no medical training whatsoever. For all I would know, it'd be better for him to bump his head a bit versus me trying to restrain him.

My guess is that the cops aren't trained to be first responders to a trauma scene either. Its one thing for them to show up where someone was punched in the face, but someone hit by a car is a whole other bag of mess.

 

[MomRN]

There are Good Samiratan laws, but they are very vague:

http://definitions.uslegal.com/g/good-samaritans/

Years ago, I was in a rollover accident and was trapped in the car by my hair. That's a different story there, but I was alert and somewhat oriented, and kept trying to get out of the car. Legs moved, arms moved.... head stuck. No idea it was my hair trapping me. Anyway, a lady came to the car before EMS/rescuers arrived and held my hand and calmed me down. So thankful she was there.

 

[MomRN]

B. Even if she had, I doubt the hospital would have seen it that way.

I've worked in peds on a limited basis, and never ran across that situation, but you are probably correct. As a nurse, I would be extremely, extremely hesitate about non-family touching a child they were not related to.

What if you accidentally dropped him? The liability would fall onto the staff and hospital.

Nothing to feel guilty about...

 

[donaldduck352]

First you rock!!!!!!!!! Second, I am not a big fan of cops, but since you weren't wearing any protection in way of gloves since the man was bleeding, I could see why he did it. The cop, did he have gloves? If not, they aren't about to touch someone bleeding as well.

No I was not wearing gloves.The paramedics made sure I was cleaned up tho.When I got home DW cleaned me more with peroxide and alchol I took a shower afterwords.

I know the cops have them in this county,if every car has a diffib,i'm sure they got gloves.We live in a small county and 4mill$ goes to the sherrif dept a year.Thats there budjet.Sorry for the mis-spelling,I'm still mad!!

 

[index]

this is really annoying.

 

[dbrn]

If his eyes were rolled back in his head and he was out of it, and his body was moving involuntarily, perhaps the police officers thought the man may be having a seizure. It wouldn't be out of the question, especially if he had a possible head injury and an unknown health history. If a person is having a seizure, putting a jacket down to protect his head is a very good thing to do, but he shouldn't be restrained. Restraining someone who is having a seizure could cause further injury, including muscle injuries and broken bones, and as emergency responders, they've probably learned that in training. Maybe they weren't sure whether he was seizing or not and wanted be on the safe side.

 

[Minnie]

Why didn't you just ask the aunt when she came if she minded if you held him? If she gave you permission that is all that would have been needed. seems pretty easy to figure out to me.

Wow what a nasty response to someone who had to make a decision 9yrs ago when her own child was hospitalized

indimom - Please try to let the guilt go - there is nothing you could have done. 17yrs ago my DS spent the first 6 weeks of his life hospitalized. It was the hardest thing I have ever been through in my life and I'm thankful everyday for the wonderful teen he is now.

 

[EllenFrasier]

In our state there is a good Samaritan law to protect innocent people who are just trying to help out. I am confused as to why the police did not assist the injured man though - that does not make any sense. Aren't they trained in first aid?

 

[rigs32]

I also thought about blood born pathogens and seizures. Much better to allow EMTs/paramedics handle the matter.

 

[MrsJackSparrow4Life]

If you are not trained to handle head, neck or internal injuries you can end up causing more harm than good. The paramedics are the ones who know how to look for and treat these types of injuries, not the cops and not the general population. It may seem like the cops were being mean and compassion-less but most likely they were doing exactly what was best for the patient.

There is also the possibility of this guy transferring a blood borne pathogen, so he would have had to be touched only with appropriate protective gear.

 

[LBIJim]

No, I wouldn't be mad at the cops. In the situation you described, it was best for trained medical personnel to assist the victim.

By the way, did the driver of the car who hit him stop?

Jim

 

[Mickey'snewestfan]

Physically restraining someone who isn't injured is actually pretty dangerous, unless you know exactly what you're doing. Restraining someone who is injures is very dangerous. What were you worried would happen? It sounds like the police did exactly the right thing by watching but not physically engaging him until the EMTs arrived.

If he had been able to get up and walk into traffic or something I think restraint might be justified, but it sounds like that wasn't the case.