Worried H and I might be broken up before trip...what do I do?

About 22 years ago, I was sitting outside Casey's on Main Street with my DD who was 3 at the time and my parents ( who dropped everything and came with us) enjoying a hot dog and the view - watching her enjoy herself and talk about everything. There was no dark cloud hanging over our trip... That's because I left him at home.... In that moment I knew what was best for me and DD. I think my parents knew too, my Dad just took my hand and said, We are here for you, both of our girls.. we will help you. Now lets have a great vacation.!!!! And that's exactly what we did.

I would leave him at home, and take your mom. If you need a break from this - Just imagine that the kids need a break from this to. They know what's going on, they are smart and intuitive - Hopefully you will have your moment of clarity - sooner than later.

I am the kind of person that believes in being happy, truly happy. Everyone deserve happiness. Is it scary out there on your own with kids?... Yes it is, but the thought of being scared and happy - verse's - being married and miserable.

Wishing you pixie dust and good luck.pixiedust: pixiedust:

Thank you - it means a lot to me to hear that - it is a very scary prospect but I am very tired of being sad and unhappy - I am tired of being angry - I just want us all to live a happy life - I wish H would understand and see that too - he thinks that a divorce or separation is the worse thing in the world for a family and doesn't want to see reality that staying together when you are not happy together is the worse thing for a family....
 
Maybe leaving him at home will be his "wake up call" that things need to change.

Right now all he sees and hears are threats and no follow through. Until he realizes you mean business things will never change.


Only you can make the decision that is best for you and your family. You need to stand up and make those decisions and do not feel like the bad guy for doing so.

good luck!
 
If the reason he was in the hospital was a psychological hospitalization, you have more going on that a normal marital rough patch. I’m not asking you to disclose anything; however, the line about the house being more peaceful while he was hospitalized really stuck out. Before my husband died, I had a big decision to make. His meds and illness had a profound effect on the marriage. Plus it magnified existing flaws in each of us. I was expected to be patient. He wanted change. Meds, lack of oxygen, stress and you wouldn’t believe some of the soul crushing things he would say. I had to really take a look at what I was allowing my daughter to witness happen to me. Would she grow up thinking this was normal? There was already no visible affection between us (another side effect). We already had to sleep separately because his illness prevented him from sleeping in a bed and he had to sleep in a recliner and it went to another room because the choking fits he tended to have would keep me up. And even that I could have lived with if he was nice. Eventually with him I had his meds adjusted and just started getting him under control in other ways.

I had to set up some boundaries and basically told him someone so dependent on someone else should try to be nicer. Any temper tantrum and I left the room. I was really thinking hard about what to do when I got pregnant with ds, the stress level went up and it started again and I had to get it in check again. Once I had things more in check, I decided to keep my family together. We had our ups and downs, but were okay. After I had ds and went on maternity leave, we had more downs than ups, but the maternity leave was unpaid and the change in the budget though short-lived was uncomfortable for him and he showed it. A week after I went back to work he died. He died in his sleep taking a nap on his day off from work. He died leaving me with a 6 year-old daughter, a 2 month old son, a mortgage, a nearly 20 year-old home, a van we had just gotten 4 weeks prior (on which he’d made one payment), and only enough insurance money to bury him. He left his mother’s name on both of his large policies and his IRA. Fortunately his job had a death benefit he didn’t know about that automatically went to the next of kin, so I was able to get some much needed work done on our home.

Shortly after our son was born, he let me know he really didn’t think I could do it (raise both children and work and take care of the house). And I am finding out he wasn’t the only one that felt that way. I’m still not a great housekeeper; but, my son is now 3 and my daughter 10. I still work. We are still in our home and despite dealing with Reactive Airway disease with my son and ADHD and Dyslexia with my daughter, we have not only survived but thrived. I miss him every day. I grieve the man that he was before his decline, but it frightens me to think of what he’d be like if he were still here. Heart/lung disease and the meds really took their toll. I know the peace in the home during hospitalizations you are talking about. My husband also refused counseling of any kind and I know how hopeless that made me feel. My daughter misses her father and she always will, but even at her age, she acknowledges how her present life is more peaceful. All that rambling to say when there are mental issues involved, it is so much more than wanting to change.

Personally, I’d probably leave him at home and not take anyone. One of the things I took solace in during my husband’s life were the trips (not Disney) my daughter and I would take together when we could get away. The clock doesn’t start ticking on the other ticket until it is used. It would be one less ticket needed for a future trip. We have done 3 Disney trips since dh’s death. We have found WDW a nice place to make memories and celebrate who we are now as a unit. Whether you are able to work things out or not, that’s what I would want Disney to be for you all.

ETA: That friendship before the marriage someone else mentioned was the biggest thing we had going for us. Other than faith and prayer, that friendship I believe is what kept us and allowed me to stay with him to the end. Without it, after the illness stole the things that separate the marriage relationship from other relationships a person has, that friendship was all we had left.

I wish you the best.
 
My parents divorced when I was 12. Both of my parents had enormous amounts of their own baggage- I will never understand why they thought it a good idea to get married. Lots of fighting, mom throwing things, etc. After they told my brother and me that they were getting divorced and we freaked out and got really upset, I remember her saying that "it is better to live in a house with 1 happy parent than with 2 unhappy ones." I didn't understand it at the time and thought she was crazy, but it really was true. Good luck to you in making the right decision for you and your kids.
 

If the reason he was in the hospital was a psychological hospitalization, you have more going on that a normal marital rough patch. I’m not asking you to disclose anything; however, the line about the house being more peaceful while he was hospitalized really stuck out. Before my husband died, I had a big decision to make. His meds and illness had a profound effect on the marriage. Plus it magnified existing flaws in each of us. I was expected to be patient. He wanted change. Meds, lack of oxygen, stress and you wouldn’t believe some of the soul crushing things he would say. I had to really take a look at what I was allowing my daughter to witness happen to me. Would she grow up thinking this was normal? There was already no visible affection between us (another side effect). We already had to sleep separately because his illness prevented him from sleeping in a bed and he had to sleep in a recliner and it went to another room because the choking fits he tended to have would keep me up. And even that I could have lived with if he was nice. Eventually with him I had his meds adjusted and just started getting him under control in other ways.

I had to set up some boundaries and basically told him someone so dependent on someone else should try to be nicer. Any temper tantrum and I left the room. I was really thinking hard about what to do when I got pregnant with ds, the stress level went up and it started again and I had to get it in check again. Once I had things more in check, I decided to keep my family together. We had our ups and downs, but were okay. After I had ds and went on maternity leave, we had more downs than ups, but the maternity leave was unpaid and the change in the budget though short-lived was uncomfortable for him and he showed it. A week after I went back to work he died. He died in his sleep taking a nap on his day off from work. He died leaving me with a 6 year-old daughter, a 2 month old son, a mortgage, a nearly 20 year-old home, a van we had just gotten 4 weeks prior (on which he’d made one payment), and only enough insurance money to bury him. He left his mother’s name on both of his large policies and his IRA. Fortunately his job had a death benefit he didn’t know about that automatically went to the next of kin, so I was able to get some much needed work done on our home.

Shortly after our son was born, he let me know he really didn’t think I could do it (raise both children and work and take care of the house). And I am finding out he wasn’t the only one that felt that way. I’m still not a great housekeeper; but, my son is now 3 and my daughter 10. I still work. We are still in our home and despite dealing with Reactive Airway disease with my son and ADHD and Dyslexia with my daughter, we have not only survived but thrived. I miss him every day. I grieve the man that he was before his decline, but it frightens me to think of what he’d be like if he were still here. Heart/lung disease and the meds really took their toll. I know the peace in the home during hospitalizations you are talking about. My husband also refused counseling of any kind and I know how hopeless that made me feel. My daughter misses her father and she always will, but even at her age, she acknowledges how her present life is more peaceful. All that rambling to say when there are mental issues involved, it is so much more than wanting to change.

Personally, I’d probably leave him at home and not take anyone. One of the things I took solace in during my husband’s life were the trips (not Disney) my daughter and I would take together when we could get away. The clock doesn’t start ticking on the other ticket until it is used. It would be one less ticket needed for a future trip. We have done 3 Disney trips since dh’s death. We have found WDW a nice place to make memories and celebrate who we are now as a unit. Whether you are able to work things out or not, that’s what I would want Disney to be for you all.

ETA: That friendship before the marriage someone else mentioned was the biggest thing we had going for us. Other than faith and prayer, that friendship I believe is what kept us and allowed me to stay with him to the end. Without it, after the illness stole the things that separate the marriage relationship from other relationships a person has, that friendship was all we had left.

I wish you the best.

Thank you! I am so glad to hear that you have come out the otherside of a really difficult situation and are not only surviving but are happy...your story gives me hope.
 
My parents divorced when I was 12. Both of my parents had enormous amounts of their own baggage- I will never understand why they thought it a good idea to get married. Lots of fighting, mom throwing things, etc. After they told my brother and me that they were getting divorced and we freaked out and got really upset, I remember her saying that "it is better to live in a house with 1 happy parent than with 2 unhappy ones." I didn't understand it at the time and thought she was crazy, but it really was true. Good luck to you in making the right decision for you and your kids.

Thank you - I hope that my kids will understand that whatever decision is made - it will be made with their best interests placed first and foremost.
 





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