World of Color Superthread

[BobearQSI]

I am confused. The OP addresses all of your questions in detail.

I think all of the confusion came from Disney - for AG and WCT, their website just says "Disney Dining reserved viewing ticket" but for CCR it says "receive a World of Color Center Stage Viewing Area ticket." On top of that, when I asked the cast member on the dining reservations line about this, she said there is a separate area for CCR customers, and it is the best view of all the options. So I just assumed they were right and this info wasn't on here yet.

So, I'm guessing the CCR queue area is exactly the same as other diners, and the only difference is where they will point me to go when they look at my ticket? If so, I'll probably try AG as even though the cast member told me CCR was appropriate for a 2 year old, I have a feeling AG is a little better. I do want to dine, plus we will be over at DL all morning until they close early at 5pm that day.

One more question - how hard would it be for me and one other person to save a spot for my wife, 2yo, and 10 month old until 30 minutes prior to showtime? Will they be able to get through the crowds to us?

Thanks for all the help.

 

[DisneyJamieCA]

I think all of the confusion came from Disney - for AG and WCT, their website just says "Disney Dining reserved viewing ticket" but for CCR it says "receive a World of Color Center Stage Viewing Area ticket." On top of that, when I asked the cast member on the dining reservations line about this, she said there is a separate area for CCR customers, and it is the best view of all the options. So I just assumed they were right and this info wasn't on here yet.

So, I'm guessing the CCR queue area is exactly the same as other diners, and the only difference is where they will point me to go when they look at my ticket? If so, I'll probably try AG as even though the cast member told me CCR was appropriate for a 2 year old, I have a feeling AG is a little better. I do want to dine, plus we will be over at DL all morning until they close early at 5pm that day.

One more question - how hard would it be for me and one other person to save a spot for my wife, 2yo, and 10 month old until 30 minutes prior to showtime? Will they be able to get through the crowds to us?

Thanks for all the help.

As has been reported here, you don't have to stay in the CCR section - you can move to any of the reserved areas. Just tell a CM that you're doing it. Do you plan on bringing a stroller with you? It may be hard to get that into the section after they've let people in, so if you could leave it with the people holding the spots, it would make it easier to save the spots for your wife & kids.

 

[shelemm]

Perhaps this has been pointed out before, but there seems to be a discrepancy between the viewing area 'illustrated photos' on the first post. The aerial view shows the second closest yellow level as going almost all the way toward the center with two green stars (best viewing) representing the furthest you can go. When I saw WOC last week, we were stopped by a rope right before we got to the benches (seen in the second photo, front view), where the furthest you can go is just center of a light post - represented by two yellow stars. It was a terrific view, clearly not center, but still everything was wonderful.

I was confused, though, about this area with the benches, which seems to be reserved for a different group.

 

[Midnightred]

The benches are for people with disabilities I believe. Everyone who is able mush stand for WOC.

Midnightred

 

[shelemm]

It makes sense that this area is for people with disabilities. But people without disabilities were sitting on the benches, and then they stood up to see WOC, standing in front of others in wheelchairs essentially blocking their view. Also, it did not seem to be a part of the yellow viewing area as I did not see people going from the yellow walkway to this area.

If nothing else, the first 'illustrated photo' is a bit misleading as it makes it look like this is part of the prime 'green star' viewing locations if in fact it is reserved for people with disabilities.

 

[HydroGuy]

Perhaps this has been pointed out before, but there seems to be a discrepancy between the viewing area 'illustrated photos' on the first post. The aerial view shows the second closest yellow level as going almost all the way toward the center with two green stars (best viewing) representing the furthest you can go. When I saw WOC last week, we were stopped by a rope right before we got to the benches (seen in the second photo, front view), where the furthest you can go is just center of a light post - represented by two yellow stars. It was a terrific view, clearly not center, but still everything was wonderful.

I was confused, though, about this area with the benches, which seems to be reserved for a different group.

If I understand what you are saying, then when I saw WOC two weeks ago the color boundaries I show in the OP were still being used. I talked to a CM to confirm what I saw with my own eyes - particularly about the yellow section with the two green stars.

Since Disney can change things at any time, I have been told the boundaries do move from night to night based on the number of reserved dining tickets.

Maybe I did not understand your point?

 

[HydroGuy]

I think all of the confusion came from Disney - for AG and WCT, their website just says "Disney Dining reserved viewing ticket" but for CCR it says "receive a World of Color Center Stage Viewing Area ticket." On top of that, when I asked the cast member on the dining reservations line about this, she said there is a separate area for CCR customers, and it is the best view of all the options. So I just assumed they were right and this info wasn't on here yet.

The OP points out clearly that you should not follow Disney's advice on seeing WOC. The FPs tell you when to come back to get in line for the show. Ignore those times or your view will be poor. The CMs tell you where to go if you are a CCR diner. Ignore that as well.

Two weeks ago CMs tried to tell my DS21 and his GF to stay in the "CCR section" for WOC at the back and that it is the best place to see the show. I absolutely disagree with this. I have never seen anyone here post that that section is in fact better. My DS21 has seen WOC before and maneuvered down to the front of the WOC dining section where we got a great view of the show. The best IMO.

Here are all the things Disney should be doing about WOC that they are not:

1. They should give more realistic queue times on the WOC FPs

2. They should not have the special CCR section be at the back - the worst location in reserved viewing IMO. If anything it should be at the front in the actual best spot - or not have a CCR section at all.

3. They should form an actual queue for reserved viewing rather than creating a mob every night in front of the LM ride

So, I'm guessing the CCR queue area is exactly the same as other diners, and the only difference is where they will point me to go when they look at my ticket? If so, I'll probably try AG as even though the cast member told me CCR was appropriate for a 2 year old, I have a feeling AG is a little better. I do want to dine, plus we will be over at DL all morning until they close early at 5pm that day.

The CCR queue is the same as all others. Although at the WOC show two weeks ago they tried to direct CCR diners to a different entrance to WOC viewing area further to the left - and closer to the official CCR area. We just said we did not want to go to that queue. And they let us pass.

AG would be better for 2 year old than CCR, IMO.

One more question - how hard would it be for me and one other person to save a spot for my wife, 2yo, and 10 month old until 30 minutes prior to showtime? Will they be able to get through the crowds to us?

Not that hard. It depends on where you are located on how easy it is. In other words if you are at a rail, then all you need to do is save space at the rail. If you are back from the rail you need to save space within a group of people - which would be harder. I would sit down and throw a jacket or backpack or something next to me on the ground to save the spot.

 

[shelemm]

I have been told the boundaries do move from night to night based on the number of reserved dining tickets.

Maybe I did not understand your point?

If the boundaries can change from night to night, then that explains the discrepancy. Your OP is enormously helpful; I was just wondering about the difference from the night I saw it.

 

[theluckyrabbit]

...2. They should not have the special CCR section be at the back - the worst location in reserved viewing IMO. If anything it should be at the front in the actual best spot - or not have a CCR section at all...

For some reason, Disney seems to believe that the "big picture" view from the back is the best viewing for WOC. The VIP section is back there for Club 33 guests and other VIPs. Apparently, Disney feels that the back section view is better. Maybe because they think VIPs don't want to risk getting wet? If someone enjoys that view, then fine. But I have no idea why Disney insists that CCR guests are better off in the back area.

 

[HydroGuy]

For some reason, Disney seems to believe that the "big picture" view from the back is the best viewing for WOC. The VIP section is back there for Club 33 guests and other VIPs. Apparently, Disney feels that the back section view is better. Maybe because they think VIPs don't want to risk getting wet? If someone enjoys that view, then fine. But I have no idea why Disney insists that CCR guests are better off in the back area.

When you say "Disney believes..." I know what you mean - but the WOC CMs are also Disney and they do not believe this on the whole. When we got my favorite front rail spot in the reserved area two weeks ago (I think it was my 5th time there) I commented to the guy next to me (his second time seeing WOC) that this was the best of all spots to see WOC. A WOC CM walking past chipped in with "I agree".

I think the rear areas feel less crowded and are easier to access and that is why Disney does it for VIPs. I have seen WOC from all over and the rear - and if you can have a good view - it is a good experience. But it is nothing like a good spot near the front.

 

[BobearQSI]

From the OP:

If you do not get either of the rail spots then you can go to the stairs at the rear of Reserved Viewing - the blue line in the picture below. There will be a rope at the top of the stairs to separate the yellow section from Preferred Dining.

However:

They should not have the special CCR section be at the back - the worst location in reserved viewing IMO.

Sorry for being a bit pedantic, but this is my first time viewing WOC and probably won't have the chance again for awhile. I was assuming the CCR section is the yellow stars shown in the map at the back of the green section. Is that not the case? I was planning to go to the yellow stars if for some reason it is busy and there were no rail spots available.

Also, how do they (or do they) prevent the other diners from going to the CCR section?

Thanks again for all those experienced here sharing your knowledge.

 

[jitterbug]

@HydroGuy, this has been such a HUGE help. THANK YOU!!

We are thinking about doing a WOC dining package for lunch, since our little ones (ages 6, 4, 3, 2 - not all ours) will probably sit through lunch better than dinner. That leaves us WCT or CCR, and I think we are leaning towards WCT for kids' options.

When we saw it a couple of years ago, we had blue FP and were lucky it was a slow time, so we were at the top of the stairs behind the big circle. Of course, we got there early as you advised and were the first ones in the area. The CMs are helpful as well, saying we were headed towards a great viewing area.

For this November, we are looking forward to the new holiday show and checking out one of the restaurants that we haven't tried yet. Thank you!!

 

[MsMinne]

I have booked CCR WOC package for my family but it sounds like this may not be suitable.

I have two boys aged 6 & 9 and I wanted to make sure they got the best views. Maybe I should change to WCT or AG instead - which one better than the other?

I wonder what you chances would be like 1 month out. It may even be too late to change.

 

[seobaina]

Now that I think about it it was for the 9:00 show. We were let in the viewing area at 8pm. We probably got out of the dinner closer to 7:30 or so. Sorry for the misinformation, but we did have a choice spot with only an hour wait.

Midnightred

Thanks


Can I just check, we're now eating at 5:30 (earliest slot they do at AG) and as two adults we won't take too long to eat (unless service is slow), so we're hoping to get to the reserved area between 6:30-7pm at the latest for the 8:15 showing (only one showing that night). Will there be a queue to join? I noticed lots of talk about no queue/line but is that for the second showing only? I just need to get an idea of how fast we need to eat thanks

 

[HydroGuy]

From the OP:

However:

Sorry for being a bit pedantic, but this is my first time viewing WOC and probably won't have the chance again for awhile. I was assuming the CCR section is the yellow stars shown in the map at the back of the green section. Is that not the case? I was planning to go to the yellow stars if for some reason it is busy and there were no rail spots available.

It's not. It is the back of the so-called green section near the HC area near the #4 spot in the OP photo map.

And it appears with all the changes over the last three years I have something old in my OP that I missed. The quote you showed should refer to what is now the blue section in the circle, not the yellow section. I will update the OP.

From the OP:

Also, how do they (or do they) prevent the other diners from going to the CCR section?

Because they have it separated with ropes.

 

[theluckyrabbit]

When you say "Disney believes..." I know what you mean - but the WOC CMs are also Disney and they do not believe this on the whole. When we got my favorite front rail spot in the reserved area two weeks ago (I think it was my 5th time there) I commented to the guy next to me (his second time seeing WOC) that this was the best of all spots to see WOC. A WOC CM walking past chipped in with "I agree".

I think the rear areas feel less crowded and are easier to access and that is why Disney does it for VIPs. I have seen WOC from all over and the rear - and if you can have a good view - it is a good experience. But it is nothing like a good spot near the front.

I agree that the more experienced WOC CMs know that the front view is the better view (agree that the back view can be fine, but not as good as up front), but there are too many clueless CMs (some of whom haven't even watched the show as a spectator, not a working CM -- I've asked) telling people that they have to view from the back CCR area. Most of these CMs will eventually allow people to go up front, but it can take perseverance on the guest's part. Sigh...

 

[BobearQSI]

Okay, this is finally starting to make sense.

It's not. It is the back of the so-called green section near the HC area near the #4 spot in the OP photo map.

Wow. That is crazy - they put you the furthest back, and more off-center than the middle of blue or the other dining, and then on their web-page call it a special "center stage" for CCR guests only.

They have it separated with ropes.

Okay, now I understand why I have to tell a CM I'm going elsewhere, and why they told me on the phone it was a separate section. So now I understand it is in the green, but roped off separately.

So my plan will be, regardless of where I end up dining, to go to the "Front Rail Elevated" or "Stairs" of the dining section.

 

[Midnightred]

I feel so bad about this, and I swear I wasn't trying to take advantage, but our family walked up to ask where the queue was, right at the same time the CM's dropped the rope to let people in the viewing area. Therefore, some folks who stated they were waiting since 6:45 pm, were let in after we were just because they were standing across the walkway in front of the Little Mermaid ride, and we were by the rope. I didn't feel too guilty though because we didn't scramble with other people to be in a certain spot. We just lucked out I guess. We sat back on the front steps for about 30 min, then my boys and I decided to go up by the rail in the non-wet section. What a great experience! WOC was the best part of our trip, and it wasn't as big of a deal to get a good spot as I expected, but maybe we were just fortunate.

Midnightred

 

[Blue32]

When you say "Disney believes..." I know what you mean - but the WOC CMs are also Disney and they do not believe this on the whole. When we got my favorite front rail spot in the reserved area two weeks ago (I think it was my 5th time there) I commented to the guy next to me (his second time seeing WOC) that this was the best of all spots to see WOC. A WOC CM walking past chipped in with "I agree".

I think the rear areas feel less crowded and are easier to access and that is why Disney does it for VIPs. I have seen WOC from all over and the rear - and if you can have a good view - it is a good experience. But it is nothing like a good spot near the front.

Hydroguy or anyone else that wants to chime in...

I know this is subjective, but do you feel like there is a 2nd best viewing spot? I ask this because I don't see us doing any of the dining options as they don't interest us. We have only seen the show one time and it was front and center in the wet zone. While it was really neat being that close, I wonder if there is a better spot to try for next time?

 

[HydroGuy]

Hydroguy or anyone else that wants to chime in...

I know this is subjective, but do you feel like there is a 2nd best viewing spot? I ask this because I don't see us doing any of the dining options as they don't interest us. We have only seen the show one time and it was front and center in the wet zone. While it was really neat being that close, I wonder if there is a better spot to try for next time?

I would say front and center like you experienced may be second best. Or possibly in the yellow section nearest the center but one section back up. I would go for that yellow section if I had regular WOC FPs. If I had blue I would come down to the front of that if possible.

Good luck.