Work is it just a vent or am I actually in a questionable environment

And if I were putting big girl
Panties is comparable to those a who condone abuse or bullying by stating where are your balls. Or suck it up even though it's terribly wrong hurtful etc.
No. People are telling you that if you don't like the working conditions, then you either effect a change by quitting or bringing it to the attention of upper management. If you cannot/will not do either of those things, then you just suck it up and deal with the rules. Putting on your big girl panties means taking charge of your own life instead of whining about it.
 
I have gone to 7-11 before and the doors locked bc the attendant was using the restroom bc they are human and
 
Are you sure that is what putting in big girl panties refered to in the original
Post. Like I said it's no wonder we have children who bully when pp rationalize like that.
 
Or assume someone does not have control over their life for that matter. So someone who is subjected to this doesn't have control over their life if they don't quit or speak up is ludicrous
 

Honestly, sounds like a typical call center job from what I have heard from several people. Do I think it's good? Would I work there if there was any way not to? No way! Is it typical for that kind of job? From what I can tell, yes.

However I would say the no phone, texting is more common that you seem to think. There are many legitimate points you bring up - personal phone use isn't one of them.
 
Or assume someone does not have control over their life for that matter. So someone who is subjected to this doesn't have control over their life if they don't quit or speak up is ludicrous

Why is it ludicrous? Someone who is putting up with something that they find deplorable, is clearly not taking control over their life with respect to their work.
 
I'm dying to know what kind of degree the OP has! And what kind of jobs you've had before and why now working at a call center.
 
It's never a job I would hold. But my company has a lot of hourly employees that do work similar to a call center in many ways, and because of what I've seen here, I understand the company's policies to a degree. Maybe I can help you see where they are coming from.

Your first insight is the way people behaved in training - unfortunately, that shows the general maturity level of the employees. And that means the managers have to manage to that level. Strict policies are required because employees just abuse things otherwise. Emails have to be sent out about taking unscheduled restroom breaks because the policy has to be clearly communicated to all employees before they can write up a particular employee that is abusing it. Managers have learned that if they show any flexibility, employees will often take advantage. These types of employees are also often very quick to file grievances with state labor boards, etc. if they perceive you do something "unfair" or show better employees more leeway, so the managers have to be absolutely sure to treat everyone the same (crappy) way. A few bad apples spoils the batch unfortunately.

As far as the variables hours go - that's just part of the business too. Our business runs hot and cold - some days we are slammed, some days there is nothing to do. We cannot pay people to sit around doing nothing so on the light days, people's hours are cut. And when we are slammed unexpectedly, then mandatory overtime is often required - in our case, we usually ask for volunteers first, but employees need specialized training for certain work, so if not enough volunteers with that training are available, others have to work when they'd rather not. Managers try to predict volume and schedule staff accordingly, but there just is no crystal ball and their predictions can be off. But this is explained to people when they take the job - they usually have no problem with it during the interview stage, but once it starts happening in real life, suddenly it's unfair.

Unless you love the work, I'd look for something else. From all your responses, you seem to have already decided this environment is evil - if that's the case, then you probably need to move on. Honestly, management is well aware of what is going on so there is nothing you need to bring their attention to to have it corrected. You probably are a more mature employee, unfortunately most others are not. You are just a square peg in a round hole - the position is not a good fit for you.
 
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I realize where they are indeed coming from but feel like it's way over common practices. It's fairly stressful to begin with bc you are timed and there are calls with no room for error. But to humiliate workers by their mistakes in front of other or their adherence to company policy is wrong, Not employing enough pp to regularly reducing break times and lunches and then expecting workers to use that five minutes for bathroom
Or risk scrutiny is unconscienable. To approve unpaid time off where pp have scheduled and paid for vacas then abruptly cancel them leaving employees the choice of losing a job or losing money they paid for vacations. This isn't where the ball stops there are a lot more policies that are deplorable for a company operating hete
 
I realize where they are indeed coming from but feel like it's way over common practices. It's fairly stressful to begin with bc you are timed and there are calls with no room for error. But to humiliate workers by their mistakes in front of other or their adherence to company policy is wrong, Not employing enough pp to regularly reducing break times and lunches and then expecting workers to use that five minutes for bathroom
Or risk scrutiny is unconscienable. To approve unpaid time off where pp have scheduled and paid for vacas then abruptly cancel them leaving employees the choice of losing a job or losing money they paid for vacations. This isn't where the ball stops there are a lot more policies that are deplorable for a company operating hete

Honestly? It sounds like common call center practices. And yes, I think call centers are generally NOT employee-friendly. I do think most of it sucks and is way beyond many other companies/industries. But what you are describing does sound typical for a call center.
 
What are you looking for OP? Many people including me have worked in similar places. Obviously they are very strict and controlling in their policies. So be it. There are some laid back work cultures there are some sucky, oppressive work cultures. If they keep driving good employees away that will be their own downfall. Otherwise, if it is working for them on balance they will continue to do it. You are a temp. You have nothing invested, just ask for another assignment and move on. Or do you think you are going to become Norma Rae, form a union, and become a workplace hero?
 
Based on the vocabulary, grammar, sentence structure, etc of the OP posts, I am willing to bet he/she is a trolling kid or kid thinking their first job should be as the next Donald Trump. If not.....well....then no wonder they are working in that environment. If you don't like it, improve yourself and find better employment.
 
Based on the vocabulary, grammar, sentence structure, etc of the OP posts, I am willing to bet he/she is a trolling kid or kid thinking their first job should be as the next Donald Trump. If not.....well....then no wonder they are working in that environment. If you don't like it, improve yourself and find better employment.

That's exactly why I'm wondering about the "degree" they claim to have!
 
I do think it is questionable. But that doesn't change the fact that it is reality many workplaces. The working conditions in non-unionized factories and call centers and similar workplaces are pretty much uniformly horrific - no notice on scheduling changes, no vacation time, no insurance but you need a doctor's note for every sick day, etc. Retail and construction aren't much better. In my state, even basic things like breaks and lunch are at the employer's discretion for adult employees and plenty of employers take advantage of that fact to demand an 8 hour shift without so much as a chance to use the restroom without risking disciplinary action.

I don't get it, personally. It seems like everything I read supports the idea that treating employees well leads to higher productivity as well as lower turnover, but that sweatshop/employees as replaceable cogs persists in many companies.
 
<<< Having trouble getting past his/her original post about "the inner city people" acting that way. So you don't think suburban people act up as well. Aren't you precious?:rolleyes:
 
We've all had that one job that is just so bad ya don't give a flying (bleep) if you stay or go. Some people will choose to allow such a job to make themselves miserable.

I had one of those jobs once. I found it liberating. I showed up every day, put in a hard day's work, and did my job. But, I took crap from NOBODY - including the douche who ran the department. I was the envy of everyone around me because everyone wanted to say what I said. But, they were all scared to.

Now, I've also had jobs I really needed. And I of course had no such luxury in those jobs. But, if you have that luxury, use it. It's the most stress free I've ever felt at a job.
 
I do think it is questionable. But that doesn't change the fact that it is reality many workplaces. The working conditions in non-unionized factories and call centers and similar workplaces are pretty much uniformly horrific - no notice on scheduling changes, no vacation time, no insurance but you need a doctor's note for every sick day, etc. Retail and construction aren't much better. In my state, even basic things like breaks and lunch are at the employer's discretion for adult employees and plenty of employers take advantage of that fact to demand an 8 hour shift without so much as a chance to use the restroom without risking disciplinary action.

I don't get it, personally. It seems like everything I read supports the idea that treating employees well leads to higher productivity as well as lower turnover, but that sweatshop/employees as replaceable cogs persists in many companies.
On a similar note, the early days at a union job (before you're actually IN the union) are often pure Hell. Essentially, it's a test to see if you're worth the trouble. Treating temps in the same manner isn't unheard of either. ;)
 
It sounds like pretty much every large company.

I'm a nurse. I work 12-16 hour days with usually about 10 minutes break to eat my lunch. I am required to turn in a doctor note for any missed days or face a write up. Large companies have very strict, rigid policies.

The girl that missed a day because she didn't know her schedule is at fault. If you are not at work when the schedule is posted, it is your responsibility to find out when you are expected to be there next. She could have called or gone up there to find out her work expectations

If you need to get things done, you do them on your days off. That's just how most working people have to do things.

Mandatory overtime is becoming common, especially in entry levels positions that dot require much experience or education. If you are in an at will state, you don't have much recourse.

If you truly hate it, quit. No one is forcing you to work anywhere.
This response is a great example of why the work culture in our country sucks.
 
Even cashiers teachers etc are not in the environment that if you really need to go occassionally. Someone will not fill in or watch your class and are not further put under scrutiniEd bc fellow employees are aware watching listening etc. everyone has jobs thatcr busy and most times we use r breaks for this but if your break is cut to five minutes and you are also scrutinized for using facilities. Barely gives a person enough time to walk go wash hands and return. It's not about abusing the system it's about treating others just and fairly. And in my book not even a teacher who had a sudden urge who had to buzzthe office occassionally woukd get flack

You can think or assume that people in other jobs wouldn't get flack from their supervisors or coworkers, but I can tell you from experience that many other people do indeed get flack from their supervisors and coworkers for things like leaving their post to go to the bathroom.

Again, if you don't like the culture of the workplace, you are free to quit and go somewhere else.
 












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