Wine and Dine 2015

[flatlandcycle]

I try to get in right behind someone already walking. Sometimes right after the water tables there is a natural space to start walking. Most problems happen when walkers are more than two abreast. My goal is to be single file when walking.

 

[sperkins921]

I saw more than one bib for corral P up in A this year.
Special people...

ETA: Thought I was posting this in the Goofy thread for some reason. That happened during last year's WDW half/full

Screw special, those people are just freaking brave. I can't even imagine being a P corral runner (and by this I mean legitimately needing to be in that corral- not just getting placed there because you had no other runs, etc) and thinking you're honestly going to be able hang with the big dogs up in A. I get that they may have wanted that padding, but to think you can be in P and run with people who run less than 8 or 9min miles is ridiculous. I'd be worried about injuring myself or worse.

Now I'm going to be refreshing that page all day.

My bib number is up, but since I have *another* 20 pages to go through I still don't know what to do with the number itself. lol

There are corn-remover things you can get at the drug store. Basically a moleskin pad and some chemical to dissolve the corn. However, if it's not super painful when you run I'm not sure how much you want to mess with it this close to the race. It may very well be (temporarily) more painful to remove that corn than to just leave it alone for now and try moleskin.

I deal with patients who do this and make a bad situation worse so I will second this bit of advice. If you're for sure set on using the corn remover, follow the directions to a T. If it says use for an hour- don't think "oh, well if one hour is good then 5 hours is great" and wear it for longer. First sign of redness, irritation, swelling, etc STOP. Those things can not differentiate between the callous/corn skin and healthy skin and can create an open wound.

What is this baseball you speak of? (I don't do football, hockey, or pro basketball either - I'm an equal opportunity sports non-fan.)

Same here. I was a hardcore football fan until undergrad. Living in the land of Packer-dom ruined me for football forever.

I've been kind of a slacker this week. I did 12.5 on Sunday, and then I went to my spin class on Mon/Wed, but I didn't do either of my maintenance runs on Tues/Thur. Tues I skipped because I was lazy, and yesterday I skipped because we had a vet appointment for our dog, and I am not running on Saturday (5K race on Sunday to take the place of the 4 miler), so I was going to do it this afternoon. But now it's raining! Boo. Hopefully I'll be able to squeeze it in.

I know this is going to sound bad (and I really don't mean it the way it sounds--- but you can't hear my voice so....) I'm glad to see I'm not the only one. I hit 2 hour runs about two weeks ago and hit 12 miles last week. This week I should be hitting 13 and I'm honestly dreading going for the run. This stopped being fun about 2 weeks ago; and now the run is like this chore that I have to do. I just haven't been motivated to do my 2x maintenance runs at all! And I've run just fine without them (and honestly seem to have more stamina when I haven't than have but that could be in my head) but I didn't want to say anything because I thought it was just me lol

I've hit this point in my training too... I didn't skip all my weekday runs (yet) but the rain outside is NOT motivating me right now to get my run in tonight. It was beautiful when I left for work this morning but now it's a nasty storm so it will probably be me and treadmill and Alex Trebek (yes, when I have to run in the evenings, sometimes I play along with jeopardy....)

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Advice needed - I see some of you are in the 12.5, or higher long run range for this weekend. Is that just for half training or are you training for a marathon too? I did 11 miles 3 weeks ago, then a 10k race (raced HARD), 8 miles last weekend and was going to do 10.5 this weekend, then 6, 12, 5, and then Wine & Dine. Do you think that's enough? I've never gone past 12 in training for a half before and have finished fine.

My race training plan I *think* was the one where I had to make it to 14 this week and taper for 2-3 weeks. I say think like that because I abandoned the plan a long time ago. I keep up (or kept up until 2 weeks ago) the maintenance runs, running for at least 45 mins and no more than 60. When I started it was 30, then 45, and right around then I started doing my own thing. The long runs were going up every week by .5 to 1 mile, and once I got into that routine, I just kept up with it. So while I'm following the plan; I haven't actually physically *looked* at the plan in a long time!

For me it is just half training. I am doing Galloway's experienced "just to finish" plan and I'm a week ahead of it due to scheduling reasons, so everyone else will be hitting the 12.5 this weekend. I think that you will be fine as long as you hit that 12. I am not planning to do the 14 next week... I'm just going to do 12.5 again. Honestly, I think it's kind of excessive (for me) to go up to 14 (or 17 like the time improvement one has), plus like WDWarchitectureguy said, it makes it a nice goal for the race to do the new distance.

I did go up to 13 for Tinker Bell training earlier this year, but that was 6 weeks out from the race. I'm not sure why the Galloway plan was so different for Tink. It had a 13 @ 6 weeks out and 14 @ 3 weeks out, and then the 3 week taper. Anyway, I didn't do the 14 then either... I was planning to do 13 again (saving that 0.1!) but I got a blister and bailed out at 12. I thought that 3 week taper was also a bit excessive, and I'm ending up with one again due to shifting the plan by a week, so I'm going to do a medium long-ish run of like 7-8 near that weekend of the 24th. I have a 5K race on the 24th, which is why I shifted the plan... I'm going to try and do that medium-long run maybe like that Tuesday (27th) in place of the maintenance run.

I'm going to agree here too. I feel like adrenaline will carry you that extra mile (or 2 depending on the weaving you end up doing on the course) and as long as you can make it to 12 and feel strong at that 12 mile marker- you should be fine. Myself I started training to time (this weekend will be 2:15 or 2:20) just to make sure I can run those extra few miles if I need to. On average I'm great until about 1:45, and that last 30 minutes is all about telling myself I can do this. But 1:45 gets me to about 10/11 miles so mentally I'm where I wanted to be. I don't feel like I'm going to die at 1:45, that's just the point that my body goes "umm? question? Just how much freakin longer do you plan to do this?"

What's got me scratching my head is the three week taper. That scares the beejebus out of me. I'm too afraid I'll loose my conditioning. I probably will scale back from 2:30 runs to 2:00 but no less than 1:45 because mentally, I know I can't do less. I'll be freaking out at the start so focused on not being ready (or my perception that I won't be ready) and I'll screw my head game up. If I had to run this race tomorrow, I could do it. I got this. And that's the mindset I HAVE to keep. Running is still very very mental for me. So I'm not thinking I can successfully fully taper like the plan says at all.

 

[sperkins921]

Just for fun .... Here's last year's corrals

http://as1.wdpromedia.com/media/rundisney/pdf/wine-dine/2014/2014CorralAssignmentsHalfMarathon-2.pdf

Brian

Well, looks like 'H' for me! Sad, because I'm running faster than that right now, but it is kind of happy because now I can look and see 'well, H is based on where I was trained to run a 10k during the first week of July, but if I ran that 10k right now? I'd be in E of F'. It helps me see that I truly have improved.

6300!

Husband is in the 2200s, I'm in the early 6000s. I'll take it!

My husband is 6375 and I'm 6389; sounds like we might be in the same corral with some of ya'll!

That was my big worry too I don't care what corral 6300 is, as long as it's not the last one!

Looks like we're all in H together. But my question is this- for those of us in H, is that placement accurate to where your running is right now? I'm thinking some of us will be running a bit faster than the others in H.

But like Miranda said- I don't care as long as I'm not in L!!!

 

[sperkins921]

Awesome... that sounds much better. At DLR it was a little bit of a letdown. We were SO far back and there were no speakers or screens or anything back there. We could see some lights flashing way in the distance, and we saw the one set of fireworks for the wheelchair start to go off, and that was exciting, but it quickly became a chilly boring "man I gotta pee already and I can't even distract myself with Facebook because there's no network" wait. We weren't close enough to see or hear the festivities from the last corral until the one 2 ahead of us was going to go, and by then we'd already been waiting 30 or more minutes, and then it was exciting but only until we realized he was doing the same spiel for every corral that got to the front, so by the time we were up there we were on our 3rd listen.

This makes me a little happier. I was thinking 'crap, will we even see anything in H?'

DH is up in C. So there's going to be a bit of a wait between his finish and mine. If I can keep my training up, hopefully I can get in E next year. C will be a few years for me. (like never lol)

 

[Miranda]

Looks like we're all in H together. But my question is this- for those of us in H, is that placement accurate to where your running is right now? I'm thinking some of us will be running a bit faster than the others in H.

Based on my half I ran yesterday in 2:53, that is more or less accurate for me. H seems to have such a wide spread, going up to 3:15... I guess maybe there were just not many people who submitted times in our range? I'm hoping to finish sub-2:45 with a flatter course, but I think if I do manage it I will be very close to that, so I'd be at the very tail end of F.

 

[flatlandcycle]

What's got me scratching my head is the three week taper. That scares the beejebus out of me. I'm too afraid I'll loose my conditioning. I probably will scale back from 2:30 runs to 2:00 but no less than 1:45 because mentally, I know I can't do less. I'll be freaking out at the start so focused on not being ready (or my perception that I won't be ready) and I'll screw my head game up. If I had to run this race tomorrow, I could do it. I got this. And that's the mindset I HAVE to keep. Running is still very very mental for me. So I'm not thinking I can successfully fully taper like the plan says at all.

That's why the intensity stays high and the volume comes down. Marathoners taper three weeks all the time. Conditioning is more a factor of Lactate Threshold workouts not the Long Steady Distance run. Rest is where the adaptation happens. The taper allows us to crawl out of the Vally of Fatigue. Don't leave race day performance on the training field. "Don't, stop, come back." -Willy Wonka

 

[Miranda]

Does splitting up the long run work? I'm not sure what do do about my workout next weekend. I have a 5K on Saturday but if splitting up the workout works, maybe I'll do another 4 on Sunday?

 

[sperkins921]

Just got our Magic Bands yesterday too! If you book a package through Disney, you get the luggage tags now. I'm not sure if you get them if you book through runDisney or not (it's technically a different 'travel company' you are booking with). In the box, look under the bands, as in pick up the whole cardboard insert that they're in. I found them underneath that insert in a small envelope~ the attaching hanging tabby thingies are clear and are separate and easy to miss. I would have never even known that they are sending the new luggage tags now if I didn't read about them on the Dis. I bet a lot of people won't know about them and may miss them/throw them away. They are adorable! I made my DH get a yellow Magic Band just to get the yellow Mickey one. He just smiles and goes with the flow even though that's not the color he wanted.
I hope you all can find yours!

Guess us redheaded stepchild DVC members don't deserve luggage tags. We didn't get any in either of our boxes.

Based on my half I ran yesterday in 2:53, that is more or less accurate for me. H seems to have such a wide spread, going up to 3:15... I guess maybe there were just not many people who submitted times in our range? I'm hoping to finish sub-2:45 with a flatter course, but I think if I do manage it I will be very close to that, so I'd be at the very tail end of F.

I think I'm on course to finish in the 2:15- 2:30 range (depending on photo stops), so I'm definitely faster than I was when I submitted PoT. I averaged at 13:30/mi then and I'm about 11/mi now. I'm worried now about how much dodging I might have to do on the course now. I haven't had to deal with that much if at all in training.

That's why the intensity stays high and the volume comes down. Marathoners taper three weeks all the time. Conditioning is more a factor of Lactate Threshold workouts not the Long Steady Distance run. Rest is where the adaptation happens. The taper allows us to crawl out of the Vally of Fatigue. Don't leave race day performance on the training field. "Don't, stop, come back." -Willy Wonka

So in the two weeks leading up to it, do you drop down to 4-5 miles but bring your pacing way way up? Run same # of days a week? Or less days, faster pace, less miles? Or some combo therein?

 

[disney516]

Thank you all for the advice and tips for being cautious of others and signaling when it's time to walk. It's also good to see several people use similar intervals.

 

[FFigawi]

So in the two weeks leading up to it, do you drop down to 4-5 miles but bring your pacing way way up? Run same # of days a week? Or less days, faster pace, less miles? Or some combo therein?

Generally, your volume of mileage drops off significantly, but your intensity and pace do not. You might do one or two weekday runs at a quick 5k pace to keep your legs fresh, but otherwise, your pace doesn't really change. You just run less miles during each of your runs than you were the week before.

 

[flatlandcycle]

Generally, your volume of mileage drops off significantly, but your intensity and pace do not. You might do one or two weekday runs at a quick 5k pace to keep your legs fresh, but otherwise, your pace doesn't really change. You just run less miles during each of your runs than you were the week before.

Yep.
I probably won't see 5k pace in the last week but some of the runs may be devoted to a few intervals at 10k pace and certainly some at 1/2 marathon pace. I tend to start feeling really good as the volume comes down but have to tell myself to save it for Nov 7th.

Some of the carbo-loading regimens call for intervals at 5k pace (or better), the day before, to top off glycogen levels. There seems to be a a super-compensation of muscle glycogen levels with this type of plan. (University of Western Australia carbo-loading)

If your legs haven't seen this fast pace during training don't start high intensity now. Otherwise, mixing some speed in, maybe at half to one third the normal volume (mileage), is good in the last few weeks.

 

[Dis5150]

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Well I ran my very first race! I had a blast and I didn't come in last lol! The people who told me the park wasn't hilly must have been trying to make me feel better cuz it was SUPER hilly! And we had to run about a mile in an unpaved portion of the parking lot and it was about 2 inch thick gravel. And not all the same size - some large rocks in there. I was very careful lol! My intervals are :30/1:00 so I was very happy with my finish time and average pace. I did run thru some of my walk intervals so I could walk up the steepest hills but I ended up running thru more of the walk time than walking thru the run time, if that makes sense! And having bib #1 is a great ice breaker as I got talked to all day about it lol!

Great race promotion company! They go around the country doing these Roller Coaster races in theme parks. We had cookies, bananas, bagels, apples, chocolate milk, Gatorade and water after the race. One water stop on the course but it was placed stragically where you could pass it 4 times. Awesome volunteers, who were very encouraging.

After the race we went and bought DH a hoodie at Walmart (did I mention it was freezing??) and had lunch, then headed back to the park for the second half of the day, Roller Coaster 5k! Race participants had the park to ourselves for an hour and DH and I rode 7 roller coasters in an hour! We could get off and get right back on if we wanted. We rode one, Arkansas Twister 3 times. It made Space Mountain seem like a smooth ride lol! I have some bruises today!

All in all a great day!

 

[orangejeepgirl]

Hi Friends,
I have an off topic question, hope y'all don't mind. I have a bunch of Disney gift cards. While we are there, I was planning to use our Magic Bands to pay for everything and then pay off the balance at the end of the trip with the gift cards. My mom is telling me there is a way to load the gift cards to my Magic Bands before we go.. Does anyone know about this/how to do it? TIA!!

 

[DarkSideRunner]

So excited for those who are running this - this was my first exposure to runDisney (and the first half-marathon that made me think I might be able to do a full marathon, as long as it was at Disney). Best thing is being able to ride Test Track over and over after the race

 

[Jackie Skellington]

Hi Friends,
I have an off topic question, hope y'all don't mind. I have a bunch of Disney gift cards. While we are there, I was planning to use our Magic Bands to pay for everything and then pay off the balance at the end of the trip with the gift cards. My mom is telling me there is a way to load the gift cards to my Magic Bands before we go.. Does anyone know about this/how to do it? TIA!!

You cannot add gift cards to Magic Bands, but if you decide you don’t want to carry the gift cards into the park with you to use, you can charge everything to your credit card on file and then take your final bill to the front desk of the hotel to settle your bill using the gift cards. (Which would need to be done in the early evening before the morning of check out as you account balance is charged to your credit card on file that night.) Of course this policy could change...

 

[RookieLady]

Well I was working on the time improvement plan. Had to split my 15, so thought I would skip the 17 for this weekend and just do 14. Ended at 12 today. Hubby hasn't been training with me and it's hard for me to do the distance without him. I could've and should've continued, but it was cold and I didn't want to. I am right there with those of you who are tired of running. My longest was 13 so I should be fine. I am going to go ahead and finish this plan, but I am not doing it again. 30 minute weekday runs are easier to do and I hate the speed trial. Thank goodness the last one is next week.

 

[orangejeepgirl]

You cannot add gift cards to Magic Bands, but if you decide you don’t want to carry the gift cards into the park with you to use, you can charge everything to your credit card on file and then take your final bill to the front desk of the hotel to settle your bill using the gift cards. (Which would need to be done in the early evening before the morning of check out as you account balance is charged to your credit card on file that night.) Of course this policy could change...

Got ya!! This is what I thought. Thank you!

 

[sperkins921]

Well friends, I just wanted to share:

I ran 13.1 miles. Today. In 2:25. Yeah, totally I kicked that run's @$$!!!

So yeah. I'm ready.

Wine and Dine Half? Bring. It.

 

[flatlandcycle]

Well I was working on the time improvement plan. Had to split my 15, so thought I would skip the 17 for this weekend and just do 14. Ended at 12 today. Hubby hasn't been training with me and it's hard for me to do the distance without him. I could've and should've continued, but it was cold and I didn't want to. I am right there with those of you who are tired of running. My longest was 13 so I should be fine. I am going to go ahead and finish this plan, but I am not doing it again. 30 minute weekday runs are easier to do and I hate the speed trial. Thank goodness the last one is next week.

I should have been humming "le Regiment" (Script Ohio) or "Hang on Sloopy." Running in circles for pain's sake. Just one more hard one, hang in there.

 

[fsupharm77]

Got 13.1 miles in today, longest distance I have run. Took me 2:15 which is my projected finish from PoT. Had a really good pace going until I hit the dirt trails on my route. I had about a mile that was pretty much sand and couldn't get back up to speed after that. Very happy to know I can complete it, I didn't really doubt I could, but there is something to actually getting there that feels awesome.