WILLING TO PAY MORE DUES....

[Werner Weiss]

CBR, Dixie and Coronado are not DVC resorts.

At CBR, Port Orleans and Coronado Springs, there's not an issue of what expectations were set when the buyers plunked down their money to buy into DVC. There's no long-term commitment to pay dues every year. There's no DVC member expectation that the facilities will offer consistency year after year.

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Werner Weiss, Curator of Yesterland, featuring discontinued Disneyland attractions

 

[KNWVIKING]

Would you have bought at OKW had there been a slide ? Also, please don't don't read any attitude,sarcasim,argumentitiveness into my replys, there is none intended.

 

[Richyams]

Certainly, but I also would have bought if there were no main pool.....do you suggest getting rid of the main pool?

While that sounds sarcastic, I think that it goes to butressing Werner's point of mantaining what we bought. Personally, I have stated my reasons for prefering no slide. I am also glad that there are other reasons to keep it the way it is with no slide.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", Karl Marx,This has failed every time it has been tried, why do we still have liberals?

 

[KNWVIKING]

Why would I want to get rid of the main pool ? You also mentioned something about keeping what you paid for. While I agree with that, I also like to see things improved- ( I'm not saying a slide would be an improvement)- like the choice of a sofa in a studio rather then two queens,etc.
The point of my poll wasn't to convince people to get a slide, I wanted to know if money was the reason. You absolutely do not want a slide and money is not the issue-that's fine with me. I belonged to a pool association once.Every year the big debate was about the slide.Insurance companies charge higher rates for slides. Certain members always voted NO, even though it ment $2.00 a yr more in dues. The most popular item for the kids was the slide, and this place had diving boards,tennis courts,shuffle board,tether ball,basketball courts,horseshoes,volley ball court,etc. It really bothered me that $2.00 ment more then kids having a blast.

 

[Joeblack]

Geez. I am happier than ever for having bought at BWV.

Rich: I also rent a car every time I go to WDW, However I am sure a large percentage of people like (and need) to use the buses for transportation. Getting rid of them would not make much sense IMHO.

I believe a slide would be a great plus for OKW pool, since DVC and WDW are mainly a family destination rather than a retirement colony where silence must be the rule. Most children (and adults)enjoy slides greatly.

As for the clown in BWV, yeah, it might remind many of us of Stephen King's "It", but believe me, little children love it. My brother has a phobia with clowns so he hates it but I really really like the clown since it goes really well with the Coney island Fair Themeing.

[This message was edited by Joeblack on 04-10-01 at 12:07 PM.]

 

[DisneyCrazy]

I too vote for a slide, I personally see it as an enhancement. I agree with the poster that said this isn't a retirement community - I want to see people having a blast, even if I myself will never use it. I have no children, but travel with friends/family and they have children that would live it. I can't understand the chatter and laughter of children being more annoying than the noise from the boat motors - get rid of them instead and it will even out.

Sure, you can stay at another resort with a slide - but it will cost you (points) that you might not have. It is easier for those wanting quiet to go to a quiet pool at OKW than for those wanting a slide to stay at another DVC. A slide at one of the pools is the best of both world.

P.S. I actually tried to vote twice, since I own two contacts with my sister - she too would vote for the slide...

-Paul

 

[robinb]

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If someone wants a slide at the main pool, they can stay at one of those hotels. If someone want a slide during their stay at a DVC resort, they can stay at BWV or VWL or soon BCV...do VWL and BCV have slides?
[/quote]

Not always. It can be difficult to get reservations at other DVC resorts in the 7 month window. All other DVC resorts have slides.

I bought into OKW. I don't regret it at all, but a lack of slide will become more and more of an issue as my 2 year old gets older. We can, and do, pool hop. Howvere, it's a huge pain in the butt to get everyone in the car to go to another resort just to use the pool.


-- Robin

 

[DVCDAVE]

This is why I don't fully understand the pool hopping hooplah. In fact it is almost a burden, not a perk (and I am not joking either). As I see it the only an advantage if you own at OKW. If you own at one of the resorts with a themed pool you are basicaly subsidising OKW owners who come over to use your themed pool and lifeguard services. This creates for higher dues, noise and crowds for BWV and WLV owners, and keeps the dues and crowds down at OKW. I don't know of anyone yet on this board that said they leave BWV to pool hop at OKW. Don't get me wrong and jump all over me either, as I am not knocking OKW, I am merely trying to point out an obvious observation of economic reality.

WDW:
76,77,78,87,FW
92,Offsite
95 POL
96(2), GF,Offsite
97,GF
98,99,00,FW
8/00 DVC member @ BWV
3/01 BWV, FW
3/01 DVC member @ WLV
11/01 BWV !

 

[RamVA]

My kids are old enough now that the slide is not an issue for us, but there certainly was a time when I would have really liked for there to be a slide, and would have gladly paid an increase in dues to get one. We did try pool hopping when they were little once or twice, but it is a little bit inconvenient. What I have always wondered, though, is why a slide wasn't done in the first place, the same way I wonder why we don't have a food court. I mean the whole idea of the vacation club was to gear towards families with children. I love OKW, but it was the only option available when we bought; and I have thought for a long time that compared to all the other resorts it is pretty boring! (Don't kill me--my oldest son already beats me up enough for this!) The theming is the most"low key" of any I can think of(except maybe the Contemporary)no slide, and one small restaurant that closes at 10:00 p.m. I love it, I feel like I'm coming home, it is peaceful and quiet, and last year I vacationed alone, and felt so safe; but I really wouldn't mind if we could add a few things that would jazz it up just a little! Sorry, if I got a little off topic; and BTW Rich, since I flew in last year instead of driving from Va. by myself, I'd be real upset if we didn't have bus service!

Ruthie
DVC'92

 

[Jimbo]

On the rare times that we pool hop, we go to Stormalong Bay. Other than the slide BWV's pool isn't anything special at all. Your dues aren't subsidizing me.

 

[DVCDAVE]

Jimbo, I don't worry about it. I know what I bought, when I bought it, and how the system works, and who uses it. Frankly I don't blame you for going to Stormalong Bay, but I don't think that will be an option after BCV's open for business. I think pool hopping will be pretty much finished by then.

WDW:
76,77,78,87,FW
92,Offsite
95 POL
96(2), GF,Offsite
97,GF
98,99,00,FW
8/00 DVC member @ BWV
3/01 BWV, FW
3/01 DVC member @ WLV
11/01 BWV !

 

[PatOKW92]

I am not in favor of more dues however, what will eventually happen is that there will be a serious event, injury or death, to force something to happen. I don't want a slide but a lifeguard(s) would be nice.

 

[Werner Weiss]

If you look at other timeshare resorts, such as Marriott Vacation Club International (MVCI) resorts, you won't find many slides -- even though these resorts also cater to families. Even the snazzy new Marriott Grande Vista resort in Orlando doesn't have slide.

I've always assumed that it's an effort avoid the insurance costs and lifeguard labor costs that would increase the owners' annual dues. Timeshare owners typically don't get daily housekeeping either, again to keep annual dues down.

The premise behind timeshares is that owners pay a lot up front, but then pay comparatively little in the long run. DVC annual dues are already much higher than other high-end timeshares in the continental Unites States (with Disney transportation undoubtedly being part of the reason).

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Werner Weiss, Curator of Yesterland, featuring discontinued Disneyland attractions

 

[Peggy Sue]

We received the survey about the pool and extra afternoon bus service. We voted no for both, because we personally didn't see a need for the slide or increased afteroon bus service. We would not change our vote today.

As we all have debated here a million times, we all have selected a home resort that suits our vacation style. We own at OKW and BWV.

At OKW we always ask for a villa AWAY from a bus stop and near a quite pool. We enjoy the relaxing pace of OKW.

At BWV, the main pool doesn't do much for us (and I too dislike the clown because of the book IT by Stephen King!) and we frequent the quiet pool at BWV.

We don't pool hop. A slide has never been and never will be something we personally desire, so that is why we voted no. We always rent a car and very seldom take a bus. maybe once in a great while to the MK. We've never had a problem with the bus service at OKW and haven't used the bus service yet at BWV's.

In addition to our ability to pool hop to check out another resort pool, WDW has three wonderful water parks that are full of slides and fun things to do.

Have a wonderful day!

 

[PamOKW]

I have become suspicious of DVC surveys. Ever since the towel controversy it seems they are worded to justify something DVC is planning to do anyway. The bus question was worded oddly. It said something like "instead of the combined MGM/Epcot bus would you want a dedicated MGM bus?" Since in my experience there have always been two buses I regarded it as sort of a "trick" question. (Sort of a "When did you stop beating your wife?" phrasing.)

I wouldn't mind having a lifeguard at the two larger pools but I'm pretty neutral on a slide and wouldn't want one at Turtle Pond in any case. It seems that Disney has added a slide/improved pool to all the deluxe resorts so maybe they'll add one to OKW at their own expense to keep consistent.

 

[mrsdon]

I voted for no slide at OKW also. I think it would detract from the main pool. I love the size of the pool and would hate to see a lifeguard chair there as well.
We've only pool-hopped 4 times in the 7 years we have owned at OKW.

 

[KyBill]

I've never used any pool at OKW and never will but my grandkids do. I have been at the main pool in October with the grandkids and it was anything but "serene". A slide couldn't have made it more noisy.
With pool hopping available my DD takes the grandkids to other pools. They have only been in the main pool one time in three trips to OKW.
If I had got to vote I would say yes to a slide at the main pool as long as it wasn't an diaster to look at. As far as the busses are concerned, I have never used them but this past March some of my kids and grandkids used them three mornings and the service was excellent.
If OKW was being built today it would have a slide. All the other DVC resorts do(if you count WL as part of WLV).

 

[KNWVIKING]

Did Disney give any $$$ per point for a slide & lifeguard. I also agree that Disney ( and other companies) word surveys to get the response they want and make it look like it was your idea.

 

[WDWDad]

I voted yes on a slide. I'd pay anything if those kids would just stop yelling

MARKO -- POLO

MARKO -- POLO

Maybe if they had something to do like slide down a water slide they would just be quiet.But then there would be that loud squeaking sound as they came down. OH NO!

 

[KNWVIKING]

A common phrase among no voters is the piece and quite of the pool area as it is.I personally don't think kids playing in a pool make more or less noise if it has a water slide. Another is an unsightly lifeguard stand. I've been to many resort pools all over the country and never once thought " that life guard stand looks terrible". On the subject of lifeguards: If I had young children-say under 10- I would want to be at the pool watching them myself even if there was a lifeguard. But I wouldn't hesitate to let my 12 or 14 yr old go to the pool by themselves while I did something else if there was a LG there. If anything I think lifeguards prevent kids from getting a little over-rambuctious which usually leads to injury. I don't think anybody at the pool hasn't seen kids running around the pool on wet concrete.