WILLING TO PAY MORE DUES....

[KNWVIKING]

As all OKW owners know,our resort pool has no slide which also means we are not required to have a lifeguard. I read approx a year ago at a membership meeting,DVC inquired of attendng members if they would be willing to pay higher dues in order to build the slide and pay lifeguards. The answer was a resounding NO. I'm just curious what the answer would be of members who post here.

 

[brittsmamabwv]

Don't want to add fuel to anything either but I heard thru Member Services thats why the transportation is somewhat poor at OKW due to the owners not wanting their dues raised. I couldn't vote in your pole due to my home being BWV's. Our dues is already high.

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[baileybrad]

and priorities vary from person to person that being said I couldn't vote either (HH owner) in your poll because it would not be my dues that would possibly be affected by the changes but I really do wish that the main pool at OKW had a simple slide. Nothing too fancy. Maybe the money being saved at Hank's could be used to pay for a lifeguard.

 

[Richyams]

Personally, I would pay extra to keep the slide away. There are many things I wouldn't support because of higher dues. I wouldn't support a slide at OKW pool because of the noise, rowdyness and just plain unsightlyness of the whole thing. Add to the gaudy slide a large lifegaurd chair and it is no longer the peaceful pool area that I bought nine years ago.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", Karl Marx,This has failed every time it has been tried, why do we still have liberals?

 

[SwampFox]

I always find these discussions interesting from the point that some seem to enjoy characterizing OKW members as unwilling to spend more on dues (cheapskates, tightwads, etc.).
The survey did not specifically ask "Do you want higher dues?", but described the slide/lifeguard/extra buses/etc/etc/etc and asked "Do you want these things?" When those who received the survey (not everyone did) responded (again... not all who received it even replied), they indicated that their preference was NOT to add these items....not necessarily that the dues were even an issue.

The bus question was about adding one more bus in the afternoon for Epcot and MGM. Most afternoon buses to those locations are already underused, so those polled (not at the annual meeting, but again through a written survey) again indicated that more buses would not really solve any transportation concerns- NOT that they didn't want dues raised.

Please don't assume that OKW owners are cheap- just assume that they see no need to add a slide. After all..we can pool hop to use the "clown" slide at BWV anytime we want! As for the buses, please don't assume that OKW owners are cheap- just assume they don't need one more bus...just a more efficient system altogether. The bus issue is not inherent to OKW- it is evident at every resort...and is probably better at OKW than at many others.

 

[Jison]

When we first joined and my kids were 1,4,5 and 7, I really wanted a nice slide. I was sad that most of the other resorts at WDW had cool pools. BUT we found that the kids did not swim that much. We go during Christmas week and Easter week. Sometimes it is very cool. Now that they are 9, 12, 13 and 15 I really don't want to pay more for a slide. We have only pool hopped on one trip and that one was in the summer. I might feel differently if we went in the summer but we do not.

If the majority of other memebers voted for a slide it would be okay with me. We enjoy the ones at Vero, Hilton Head and BWV.

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[PKK/MJK]

Beautifully said, Swamp Fox!!!!!!!!! As an OKW owner of many years, I find it very annoying to constantly hear how those of us at OKW are "not willing to pay more dues." It is especially galling to hear that the transportation problems which occur occasionally at OKW are the members' fault because we won't pay more money. Enough already!!! Of course, it is important to keep our dues as low as possible. At the same time, I'm sure most of us would be willing to have a dues increase for things the majority feel are necessary at OKW. As of now, most of our members who were polled prefer things the way they are. Perhaps another poll would produce a different result--but until that time, people should know that OKW people are not a bunch of stingy tightwads.

Phil and Mary Jo

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DVC/OKW

 

[brittsmamabwv]

I find it interesting that you "assumed" I am referring to OKW owners as Cheap. I never said that. OKW was the first DVC (I had the pleasure of staying there back in 1992) AND back then the bus system was the worst that I had ever seen at WDW. But I'm sure that has changed now. Compared to the newer DVC resorts, it is very laid back. Everyone has there own vacation values. That is why you own at OKW and I picked BWV's. I didn't refer to OKW owners as cheap and I'm sorry if I offended you. As I stated in the original post ...I didn't want to add fuel....

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[This message was edited by brittsmamabwv on 04-09-01 at 11:42 PM.]

 

[Caskbill]

It's always been interesting looking at the discussions between the OKW 'fans' and the BWV 'fans' and this simple poll may illustrate it very well. I prefer OKW because it <u>is</u> laid back and slow paced. I'm also sure many of the BWV 'fans' prefer it there because of it's more activity based style, including the pool. I thoroughly enjoy the OKW pool the way it is, and the nice boat rides to DD, and the leisurely stroll on the path back and the generally easy lifestyle of OKW. It's the resort style I purchased because it's the style I prefer. Likewise the BWV buyers probably prefer the easy access to all the activities close by, including Epcot and MGM.

I voted NO on the slide, but would easily vote YES on any issue that was necessary for OKW. The question of dues is not really an issue.

On the bus example, with our auto so close to our unit, we probably drive to the parks 70% of the time, usually because we want to go somewhere else after we leave the park and not go directly to our resort. Again, it's not a matter of dues, but what's important to us.

This is a great poll. It'll be interesting to see how it comes out.

Caskbill

 

[Richyams]

I wish they would have a poll about reducing bus service. The only bad part of OKW is that once in a while, you may be near a bus turnaround. Those busses can be noisy and disturbing.

I would vote to eliminate the busses altogether.

I have never been on a bus. I have had teen guests that have used the busses, but I would have been just as happy to drop them off somewhere. OKW is set up so well for having a car.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", Karl Marx,This has failed every time it has been tried, why do we still have liberals?

 

[Lesley]

I find this thread very interesting! Any BWV owners out there who would pay more to get rid of the clown? Not the slide...just the clown! LOL...personally I find it kinda creepy, but then again I've read too much Stephen King.

Maybe we can send him to OKW!


Lesley


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2000 Polynesian and Old Key West
2002 Boardwalk Villas

 

[brittsmamabwv]

vote YES to get rid of the clown lol

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[jennybobenny]

I love the BWV slide, but agree the clown is kind of creepy. Actually when I first saw the slide I thought of Stephen King.

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[KNWVIKING]

I'm actually very surprised by the result of the poll so far. Couple of points:
1: I understand that some people purchased OKW because of the lifestyle, I also know people bought OKW when it was the only resort and you basically accepted what was there.
2:A common thread on this board is Pool Hopping and an almost "how dare they not allow it at ...." I would hope the people who voted No on this poll aren't those same people because it would sound like you want the best of both worlds.
3: Just curious how many No votes are from members with young children. The cost of the slide is basically a one time hit,maybe some maintenance cost,but the real expense is life guards. Would you pay for the piece of mind knowing a lifeguard is on duty ?

Please, don't anyone take this poll or reply as an accusation on "cheapness". I personally would like a slide even though my kids are grown and I would propably only use it a couple of times.

 

[Richyams]

My daughter is 11 today. We bought in '92. We always have many similar aged and younger cousins with us.

I have absolutely no desire for a sldie and I watch my children in the pool. I never let my children guests swim without someone there, who would??? That is true wether there is a lifeguard or not.

I wouldn't want to see a lifeguard chair anymore then I would want to see a slide.

I don't really pool hop, have only done it once.

Again, some people really don't want a slide.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", Karl Marx,This has failed every time it has been tried, why do we still have liberals?

 

[Werner Weiss]

OKW has four pools. The one by the Hospitality House is the "feature pool," which is bigger. Right now, all pools provide a similar experience, so most people use the pool that's walking distance from their condo.

We usually request a condo near the Hospitality House when we make OKW reservations. We've only been successful a few times. (Over the years, each of the bus stops in OKW has been our closest stop.)

Presumably, if a slide were added, it would be only at the feature pool. Then, guests will be disappointed that they assigned to a condo near the "wrong pool" -- either bcause they want a slide or they want to avoid it.

It's easier, less expensive, and ultimately better for guest satisfaction to continue to provide what was offered when OKW was sold to members.

And, by the way, we're a family that would actually use the slide.

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Werner Weiss, Curator of Yesterland, featuring discontinued Disneyland attractions

[This message was edited by Werner Weiss on 04-10-01 at 09:52 AM.]

 

[KNWVIKING]

Don't most of the larger resorts with a Theme Pool also have quite pools ? If it works for other resorts,why not ours ?

 

[Werner Weiss]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Don't most of the larger resorts with a Theme Pool also have quite pools ? If it works for other resorts,why not ours ?[/quote]
OKW covers far more land area than other "larger resorts." For example, a VWL, the main resort pool is a short walk from the quiet pool. But at OKW, the distances are much greater. There's a big difference between taking a short walk and taking a bus.

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Werner Weiss, Curator of Yesterland, featuring discontinued Disneyland attractions

 

[KNWVIKING]

I was refering mostly to CBR, Dixie and Coronado. They are on a similar scale as OKW.

 

[Richyams]

If someone wants a slide at the main pool, they can stay at one of those hotels. If someone want a slide during their stay at a DVC resort, they can stay at BWV or VWL or soon BCV...do VWL and BCV have slides?

If someone wants to be able to lounge by the pool while the kids are participating at something in community hall and they want to spend that time quietly reading with a beautiful, serene pool in front of them, they can chose OKW.

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs", Karl Marx,This has failed every time it has been tried, why do we still have liberals?