Will this impact Disney Policy on Photography in the Parks?

[mom2rtk]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/24/showbiz/movies/escape-tomorrow-sundance-disney/index.html

After reading this, my first thought was "Great, I wonder how soon they'll ban DSLRs in the parks".

Thoughts?

 

[BillyBuff]

There's a short clip found here: http://www.petapixel.com/2013/01/22/man-secretly-films-an-entire-film-inside-disney-world-without-the-parks-permission/

 

[HPS3]

Great, that's all we need!

 

[KCmike]

As technology advances and cameras keep getting smaller and even IPhones are doubling as cameras, I don't think Disney has any choice as to what people film. If someone would choose to film and try to put the movie out for profit then I think Disney will sue and should sue for the rights of filming.

Part of the allure of Disney is to create/record memories right?

 

[DonaldDuck80]

As technology advances and cameras keep getting smaller and even IPhones are doubling as cameras, I don't think Disney has any choice as to what people film. If someone would choose to film and try to put the movie out for profit then I think Disney will sue and should sue for the rights of filming.

Part of the allure of Disney is to create/record memories right?

I agree. People should be able to capture their memories of their trips to the park, especially people like us who are hundreds of miles away.
I also agree that if someone tries to make a production of that taping to make money Disney has the right to sue for the rights.

 

[DSLRuser]

My local six flags (stl) has signes everywhere. if they catch you taking pictures or video on a ride, you will be banned from the park for a year.

We live very close to this place, and thats the only reason we go. To me it's like a travelling carnival compared to disney. But they are very strict.

 

[Gianna'sPapa]

Only time will tell what Disney's reaction will be. If I had to predict the future, I would say that there will be some restrictions added, but not necessarily because of this incident. The proliferation of DSLR's and the subsequent lack of photography etiquette, IMO, will be the cause. Since I have been going to Disney parks, I have seen more and more lack of courtesy.

 

[LittleMissMagic]

That's what I thought when I saw that, too.

However, I don't think Disney could possibly ban DSLRs in their parks. You can't tell someone that they can't bring their camera to Disney World. As long as people aren't profiting and are using their photos/video for personal reasons, it's not a problem.

Disney could sue if they're profiting off of the film. I know someone who wrote and published a book on quilting. She referred to a store as "The Disney World of Fabric," and Disney sued her for using their name without permission. She had to give them a percentage of her profits.

 

[mikegood2]

I don't see them banning dslr's anytime in the near future, but they may keep a closer eye on people with them.

Only time will tell what Disney's reaction will be. If I had to predict the future, I would say that there will be some restrictions added, but not necessarily because of this incident. The proliferation of DSLR's and the subsequent lack of photography etiquette, IMO, will be the cause. Since I have been going to Disney parks, I have seen more and more lack of courtesy.

Agreed! If I remember correctly they do have some restrictions on tripods. You are allowed to bring them in, but if you are being disruptive there is a chance a CM will have a talk with you. Personally I really don't have a problem with them doing the same thing with DSLR's as long as they don't abuse it. I don't want to see them kick someone out of the park, unless the case is extreme, but maybe they could set aside some lockers that they use for offenders. For the camera not the person

The most obvious case of lack of etiquette I saw was at Epcot's World Showcase. As we were walking through, we saw someone shooting photos of a family, which is fine, but they had two people (either side) directing people away from the shoot I'd have no problem with a CM taking some sort of action with people like this.

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[havoc315]

Disney could sue if they're profiting off of the film. I know someone who wrote and published a book on quilting. She referred to a store as "The Disney World of Fabric," and Disney sued her for using their name without permission. She had to give them a percentage of her profits.

They are indeed profiting off the film. Whether they can sue or not.... I'm sure it's an issue being addressed by their lawyers.
As a lawyer with some intellectual property training, I can tell you it's not a black and white issue. There is a good shot that it all falls squarely within "fair use." (Though I'd have to actually see the film to be sure... including whether there are any photo policies listed on entry tickets).

My guess about changes to policy -- I think they will just be a bit more vigilant about security breaking up anything that looks like a professional video shoot, including a disguised professional. They may undertake efforts to ban "professional" equipment.

 

[photo_chick]

Regardless of the legal implications what they did is a huge ethical no no. I'm sure they thought that as artists they'd be protected. Given the precedent websites and publications have set with using photographs taken on Disney property for non-personal use and the normal protections given to artists I'm very interested to see if Disney does prosecute and if they are successful. And profit doesn't matter here, especially if they start talking in terms of art which is the tack I could see the film makers taking since they are showing at film festivals.


I don't think Disney will change their overall policy of photography in the parks. But I can see them clamping down on non-personal usage of images taken in the parks.

 

[NLD]

Wasn't anyone else's first thought, "Man, I want to see this film!" No? Just me who's a little warped?

Seriously though I think it sounds interesting.

But I also hope it doesn't result in a crack-down on "professional" camera equipment.

 

[LittleMissMagic]

Wasn't anyone else's first thought, "Man, I want to see this film!" No? Just me who's a little warped?

Seriously though I think it sounds interesting.

But I also hope it doesn't result in a crack-down on "professional" camera equipment.

I was interested in the concept of it being filmed secretly in Disney World, but the plot sounds shady. The clip on the website is also really creepy... some middle-aged man gawking at young women in bikinis. Strange.

 

[NLD]

I was interested in the concept of it being filmed secretly in Disney World, but the plot sounds shady. The clip on the website is also really creepy... some middle-aged man gawking at young women in bikinis. Strange.

Didn't watch the clip so missed the gawking bit. The concept as described in the article sounded interesting. But we do tend to like over-the-top, surreal films in our house.

 

[2Tiggies]

I was interested in the concept of it being filmed secretly in Disney World, but the plot sounds shady. The clip on the website is also really creepy... some middle-aged man gawking at young women in bikinis. Strange.

Glad I'm not the only one who found it creepy! I don't really know what it is about the clip as, to be honest, it wasn't anything I could pinpoint at face value from the clip, but yeah, didn't sit nicely with me either

 

[wbeem]

I'm not worried about it. Disney would first try to sue the snot out of them for trademark infringement rather than upset millions of guests by depriving them of photography.

Besides, there are other takes on what to do at Disney than the typical guest would imagine.

http://www.quora.com/Military-Strat...s-for-taking-Magic-Kingdoms-Cinderella-Castle

 

[WDWFigment]

Highly doubt it will cause any policy changes. Looking at it from a cost-benefit perspective, Disney benefits greatly from free publicity as a result of photography in the parks--far more greatly than any harms that come to it through photography.

As for the film itself, I really hope to be able to see it. As for those disturbed by the trailer...have you never read Lolita or seen American Beauty? For that matter, have you never enjoyed any pop culture portrayal of a topic that is ethically dubious?

 

[NLD]

Highly doubt it will cause any policy changes. Looking at it from a cost-benefit perspective, Disney benefits greatly from free publicity as a result of photography in the parks--far more greatly than any harms that come to it through photography.

As for the film itself, I really hope to be able to see it. As for those disturbed by the trailer...have you never read Lolita or seen American Beauty? For that matter, have you never enjoyed any pop culture portrayal of a topic that is ethically dubious?

This is what I'm thinking too.... isn't it worse publicity for Disney to make too big a stink over this and / or restrict photography in the parks?

Lolita's my favorite book ever.

 

[wbeem]

As for the film itself, I really hope to be able to see it. As for those disturbed by the trailer...have you never read Lolita or seen American Beauty? For that matter, have you never enjoyed any pop culture portrayal of a topic that is ethically dubious?

Come to think of it, no. I've never read or watched either. I reserve my ethically dubious entertainment for political theater of the evening news.

 

[jillgunter]

I hope not! I am not a professional, although I am getting better all the time! I would say a normal tourist may not have a Mark 5 tho!