Will the new studio policy......weaken our trading power?

[alldiz]

Just wondering if we will be a "equal" trade now.

Do you think that Interval Internation...etc....will downgrade us.
Can you imagine a "marriot" person trading in...and seeing our "ammenities".
What do you think?
thanks
Kerri

 

[spiceycat]

no

II wants all the DVC resorts at WDW (not HH or VB) that it can get.

most of the II exchangers want DVC.

 

[alldiz]

no

II wants all the DVC resorts at WDW (not HH or VB) that it can get.

most of the II exchangers want DVC.

thats good to know....I guess they knew that.....they don't want to piss off potential business.....just business they already have
Kerri

 

[spiceycat]

....they don't want to piss off potential business.....
Kerri

would you buy a DVC resort when the studio has the junk?

I would not. bet this will definitely hurt sales to II exchangers who before would have at least looked at buying DVC.

 

[alldiz]

would you buy a DVC resort when the studio have the junk?

I would not. bit this will definitely hurt sales to II exchangers who before would have at least looked at buying DVC.

Funny thing I thought I could never have enough points.....

the direction DVC is taking with their members......leaves me wondering
if I have too many points....

My additional add-on I wanted.....is no longer wanted....I will call my guide and tell her this.
Kerri

 

[Brian Noble]

Despite the hundreds of posts that suggest otherwise, I'm guessing most inbound exchangers won't notice beyond a quick "Gee, that's kind of cheap."

I can tell you that quality of glassware is no where near the top of my list when comparing two potential exchanges.

 

[DVC Mike]

Just wondering if we will be a "equal" trade now.

Do you think that Interval Internation...etc....will downgrade us.
Can you imagine a "marriot" person trading in...and seeing our "ammenities".
What do you think?
thanks
Kerri

I think most people want to trade into DVC for it's location right inside WDW, so the lack of ceramic mugs wouldn't seem to dissuade folks much.

 

[pilferk]

I don't think traders will give two turduckens one way or the other. The number of times they'll be impacted is miniscule, and will likely just warrent a "Man, I'm glad we bought OUR timeshare...this is kinda cheap" response after they arrive...and nary another thought about it.

I think trades for WDW DVC resorts likely are driven by location, and not much else.

However, I do think it's a significant (and judging by the number of postings, threads, polls, etc I think it's a solid thought) Member Satisfaction issue. I'm not sure it will change, even given the outrage we're all showing. I HOPE DVC doesn't pick this battle to fight, and just capitulates over the mountain of complaints they're receiving. Time will tell.

 

[spiceycat]

I HOPE DVC doesn't pick this battle to fight, and just capitulates over the mountain of complaints they're receiving. Time will tell.

Hope DVC gives it too and gives back our mugs and glasses.

where does it state that DVC must follow the other timeshares.

 

[alldiz]

Despite the hundreds of posts that suggest otherwise, I'm guessing most inbound exchangers won't notice beyond a quick "Gee, that's kind of cheap."

I can tell you that quality of glassware is no where near the top of my list when comparing two potential exchanges.

I think most people want to trade into DVC for it's location right inside WDW, so the lack of ceramic mugs wouldn't seem to dissuade folks much.

I guess your right.....they won't even know till they get there.
I hate DVC cheapened
Kerri

 

[Kathi OD]

I have to agree with everyone else on this one. The lack of amenities in a DVC unit wil not deter trades into the system. People trading into DVC are primarily interested in one thing and that is not paying OOP to stay on WDW property while visiting the parks.

The negative that might come into play is with those people who trade in with the idea that they might purchase DVC. After seeing the amenties DVC provides, they may decide that the DVC is not worth the cost as owners when compared to other timeshares.

 

[alldiz]

I have to agree with everyone else on this one. The lack of amenities in a DVC unit wil not deter trades into the system. People trading into DVC are primarily interested in one thing and that is not paying OOP to stay on WDW property while visiting the parks.

The negative that might come into play is with those people who trade in with the idea that they might purchase DVC. After seeing the amenties DVC provides, they may decide that the DVC is not worth the cost as owners when compared to other timeshares.

Yes and with all the units they need to sell with all the new construction....you'd think they would try to make it more appealing.....not looking cheesy.
Kerri

 

[rascalmom]

I am in the minority on this one (although we haven't stayed in a studio in a long time).

I am always a little grossed out by the questionable cleaning methods used by any hotel/motel/timeshare housekeeper. Haven't you heard about the glasses being just wiped out with a cleaning rag between guests?

Since there is not a dishwasher in the studios so that I can make sure my mug or wine glass is nicely sanitized, I much prefer the paper products. We don't eat much in our room anyway, usually just a quick breakfast. That is what the WDW restaurants are for! (at least as far as my family is concerned)

Now about those coffeepots.....

 

[pilferk]

I am in the minority on this one (although we haven't stayed in a studio in a long time).

I am always a little grossed out by the questionable cleaning methods used by any hotel/motel/timeshare housekeeper. Haven't you heard about the glasses being just wiped out with a cleaning rag between guests?

Since there is not a dishwasher in the studios so that I can make sure my mug or wine glass is nicely sanitized, I much prefer the paper products. We don't eat much in our room anyway, usually just a quick breakfast. That is what the WDW restaurants are for! (at least as far as my family is concerned)

Now about those coffeepots.....

Here's the issue:

The paper...well, not paper, actually....polystyrene cups are NOT individually wrapped, or kept sanitary in any way.

So, while with the glasses you had the option to wash them (by hand) prior to use, you have no such option with the disposable cups. In addition to that, the person stocking those cups is your mousekeeper...who may, or may not, have just finished handling cleaning products (or cleaning your toilet) before they stock your cups.

I'm not sure the disposable route, at least as implemented, is a WHOLE lot more sanitary than using the reuseables.

But that's not my biggest beef with the change. The styrofoam is just awful for the environment....and that, considering the sheer volume we're potentially talking about, REALLY bugs me. Especially coming from Disney, who has touted itself as a friend to the environment....

You give us SEALED paper cups and, while not very happy about it (and likely still unhappy enough to complain to MS), I'm not nearly as "outraged".

 

[spiceycat]

I am always a little grossed out by the questionable cleaning methods used by any hotel/motel/timeshare housekeeper. Haven't you heard about the glasses being just wiped out with a cleaning rag between guests?

that is what the liquid dishwashing soap is for - my opinion. if the water is not hot enough for you - and at times it is not. then put water in the glasses or mug and heat them up in the microwave.

Since there is not a dishwasher in the studios so that I can make sure my mug or wine glass is nicely sanitized, I much prefer the paper products. We don't eat much in our room anyway, usually just a quick breakfast.

the new dishwasher do NOT sanitized - I think there is sign telling you that - water is not hot enough.

I have allergies - eating in the room is very, very much needed. have no wish to send hours in the restuarants.

one of my big allergies is pepper - do you have any ideal how hard it is for a chef not to put pepper on something. So my wait for the food is much, much longer than just cooking it would take.

so if I want to eat and see the parks - then need to be able to fix my own meals. the studio with the glasses, mugs, mircowave and toaster allowed that - now?

 

[Dean]

I doubt it'll make any difference. Studios are not that desirable overall, even for DVC. And if the extra $95 fee DVC charges inbound exchangers doesn't do it, I doubt anything will. DVC studios have always been sub par compared to many others out there esp for Marriott. And the truth is that DVC doesn't have that great of trade power/value anyway.

 

[LIFERBABE]

Before DVC I turned my nose up at all timeshares because of their cheesy sales and hi pressure tactics.

Last month I visited Silverleaf Resorts because my niece who owns there invited us for the weekend. I just knew it would not compare in any way to DVC and in fact, they apologized because they knew it would never stack up.

Well I was surprised! Especially for the money, dues, and distance.

So the timeshares are definitely coming up and we are actually considering selling most of our DVC and buying a resale Silverleaf for quick getaways and maybe a more upscale timeshare like 4 Seasons for our Golden years. Im not really feeling the magic with DVC anymore and our ownership outlook is short term like 1-3 years.

 

[PinkTink63]

Here's the issue:

The paper...well, not paper, actually....polystyrene cups are NOT individually wrapped, or kept sanitary in any way.

So, while with the glasses you had the option to wash them (by hand) prior to use, you have no such option with the disposable cups. In addition to that, the person stocking those cups is your mousekeeper...who may, or may not, have just finished handling cleaning products (or cleaning your toilet) before they stock your cups.

I'm not sure the disposable route, at least as implemented, is a WHOLE lot more sanitary than using the reuseables.

But that's not my biggest beef with the change. The styrofoam is just awful for the environment....and that, considering the sheer volume we're potentially talking about, REALLY bugs me. Especially coming from Disney, who has touted itself as a friend to the environment....

You give us SEALED paper cups and, while not very happy about it (and likely still unhappy enough to complain to MS), I'm not nearly as "outraged".

I feel the same way! I think this is a huge problem concerning the environment! There are many things we all can do to help with the environment and washing out a few cups everyday is not a lot to ask IMO! If they have not changed this by the time I get there this summer, I will find another alternative, because I will not use that much disposable for a 15 night stay! If I have to go buy a few cheap glasses and mugs, I will do that! I really don't want to have to fly them across the US! I'm always so close to the weight limit! I have been trying to lighten our load every year!

 

[BusterCat]

For MANY this is a large inconvenience: they will now need to haul to WDW all the mugs, glasses, & soap to outfit the now useless kitchenette.

For MOST it's the principle: DVC has once again degraded the value to the existing membership to either 1) save a buck or 2) misguidedly fix the housekeeping 'issue.' In either case DVC clearly was not thinking of our best interest. I’m slowly realizing that we are considered a captive audience of fanatics and, as such, we’re on the bottom of list to satisfy.

 

[eliza61]

I am in the minority on this one (although we haven't stayed in a studio in a long time).

I am always a little grossed out by the questionable cleaning methods used by any hotel/motel/timeshare housekeeper. Haven't you heard about the glasses being just wiped out with a cleaning rag between guests?

Since there is not a dishwasher in the studios so that I can make sure my mug or wine glass is nicely sanitized, I much prefer the paper products. We don't eat much in our room anyway, usually just a quick breakfast. That is what the WDW restaurants are for! (at least as far as my family is concerned)

Now about those coffeepots.....

No your not in the minority. It's one of the reasons I never stayed in a studio but I'm a admitted germaphobe. I never used the glassware in the studios. In a 1 or 2 bedroom I could run it through the dishwasher first.

I doubt very much if this will have any affect on trade in's or even sales. Most people who trade in are looking to stay onsite in a deluxe for as little as possible.