Will Hall of Presidents ever open???

[dreamer17555]

Todays kids have seen a whole lot more than you think already. It is on TV, it is in cartoons, it is in video games. Unless the kid has been under a rock all their life they are not going to be traumatized. It's not the same world anymore. If the news alone doesn't send them over the edge, nothing will. I also don't think it is a bad thing to show what happens if you cross the line of being civil or being a jerk. It's very hard to see any justice right now, and that would be justice.

Watch Tom and Jerry or Woody Woodpecker on Saturday mornings. Especially Woody, that dude is always harming others for no reason at all and then laughing about it. Don't think for a minute that kids aren't seeing that but if taught right from wrong, they are still smart enough to just laugh along and not think that it is something they can do as soon as they are big enough.

Even when I was young, I saw cartoon characters falling off cliffs and then 5 seconds later, they are perfectly fine and trying once again. Never once did I, at any age, think that I could do the same thing and not get hurt. And we didn't have parents and society constantly monitoring everything we saw and trying to eliminate it instead of talking to their children and teaching them fact from fiction. Just another example of parents trying to transfer parenting responsibilities to someone else.

Are you kidding me? There is a huge difference between watching a cartoon and seeing an altercation in front of you on vacation.

Its not like WDW is going to put guests in harms way so the show will be closed and stopped either way once security must be called. They are not going to have guests in a place to witness this "justice" if they can avoid it.

And no, I do not think my children ever needed to see security dragging someone out of a show to know how to behave (and my eldest has been going to both ballet and broadway since she was 5 and has never acted up).

Again regardless of how "traumatic" you think it would be it is not something that is worth upsetting guests and shutting down a show or having an altercation. If a guest is that disruptive the show will be cancelled.

Parents are not transferring responsibilities because they don't want to have their children witness an altercation while on vacation.

 

[Suze10860]

Todays kids have seen a whole lot more than you think already. It is on TV, it is in cartoons, it is in video games. Unless the kid has been under a rock all their life they are not going to be traumatized. It's not the same world anymore. If the news alone doesn't send them over the edge, nothing will. I also don't think it is a bad thing to show what happens if you cross the line of being civil or being a jerk. It's very hard to see any justice right now, and that would be justice.

Watch Tom and Jerry or Woody Woodpecker on Saturday mornings. Especially Woody, that dude is always harming others for no reason at all and then laughing about it. Don't think for a minute that kids aren't seeing that but if taught right from wrong, they are still smart enough to just laugh along and not think that it is something they can do as soon as they are big enough.

Even when I was young, I saw cartoon characters falling off cliffs and then 5 seconds later, they are perfectly fine and trying once again. Never once did I, at any age, think that I could do the same thing and not get hurt. And we didn't have parents and society constantly monitoring everything we saw and trying to eliminate it instead of talking to their children and teaching them fact from fiction. Just another example of parents trying to transfer parenting responsibilities to someone else.

Respectfully disagree with everything you said here.

 

[Grasshopper2016]

And yes I wish Carousel of Progress would go too

Hey now. Them's fightin' words.

 

[Travelgrrl]

It's been quite a few years since I took my son and his disabled friend and his mom to WDW, but at the end of the trip, I shot them on video and asked them what their favorite attractions had been. Now these kids had been feted from one end of WDW to the other, being treated like VIPs by CMs due to best friend's wheelchair. They rode Star Tours 4 x in a row. They had a private meeting with Chewbacca, They had toured every park and every attraction, front row in every ride that had one.

Their three favorite things? Hall of Presidents, American Adventure, and "Wacky Wizard", a guy who appeared for nightly shows at our hotel, and who would let the boys help him. The last choice was hilarious enough, but for two 11 year old boys to agree that HOP and AA were their top attractions was adorable.

 

[crazy4wdw]

The lobby reopened today:

https://wdwnt.com/2025/06/lobby-of-...m-show-remains-closed-following-trump-update/

 

[mrjack5]

The lobby reopened today:

https://wdwnt.com/2025/06/lobby-of-...m-show-remains-closed-following-trump-update/

Hope the full attraction will reopen soon

 

[lovethattink]

The lobby reopened today:

https://wdwnt.com/2025/06/lobby-of-...m-show-remains-closed-following-trump-update/

It’s hot, the lobby is a great place to cool down. And I like looking at the displays.

 

[goofyernmost]

Are you kidding me? There is a huge difference between watching a cartoon and seeing an altercation in front of you on vacation.

Its not like WDW is going to put guests in harms way so the show will be closed and stopped either way once security must be called. They are not going to have guests in a place to witness this "justice" if they can avoid it.

And no, I do not think my children ever needed to see security dragging someone out of a show to know how to behave (and my eldest has been going to both ballet and broadway since she was 5 and has never acted up).

Again regardless of how "traumatic" you think it would be it is not something that is worth upsetting guests and shutting down a show or having an altercation. If a guest is that disruptive the show will be cancelled.

Parents are not transferring responsibilities because they don't want to have their children witness an altercation while on vacation.

I perhaps didn't word it properly concerning how something might affect children by using cartoons as a reference point. My intent was and still is that I disagree with your last statement about how terrible it would be to witness someone being removed from the show. I think one of the problems with this country, and perhaps the world, is that there is never a display a consequence to bad behavior. So now we have people that perpetually think that they can act and do whatever they want and nothing will happen. There should be consequences to that kind of behavior and it should always be to protect the interests of the majority, not to mollify a single person at the cost of others.

I wouldn't have minded if my children had witnessed the responsibility side of how we act in public because instead of thinking it would be traumatic, I'd think it was a teaching moment and would have said... "See that is what happens when you think you can do anything you want". It is, of course, your business how you raise your children. I always cherished an opportunity for them to witness, within reason of course, the consequences. Children aren't unaware or unable to bounce back quickly if a positive explanation is forthcoming. Sometimes seeing the results of bad behavior just teaches them how to act in a positive way instead of negatively. By saying... I'm glad that happened because they were ruining the experience for everyone. Kids that there cues from the people that they know are trying to protect them. Sometimes by over protection we really are causing more harm then good.

This is my opinion and I know many will not agree with it, but something has gone wrong and we have become a society that lacks any class or consideration because so many were not taught to have any or know why is it important to have.

 

[dreamer17555]

I perhaps didn't word it properly concerning how something might affect children by using cartoons as a reference point. My intent was and still is that I disagree with your last statement about how terrible it would be to witness someone being removed from the show. I think one of the problems with this country, and perhaps the world, is that there is never a display a consequence to bad behavior. So now we have people that perpetually think that they can act and do whatever they want and nothing will happen. There should be consequences to that kind of behavior and it should always be to protect the interests of the majority, not to mollify a single person at the cost of others.

I wouldn't have minded if my children had witnessed the responsibility side of how we act in public because instead of thinking it would be traumatic, I'd think it was a teaching moment and would have said... "See that is what happens when you think you can do anything you want". It is, of course, your business how you raise your children. I always cherished an opportunity for them to witness, within reason of course, the consequences. Children aren't unaware or unable to bounce back quickly if a positive explanation is forthcoming. Sometimes seeing the results of bad behavior just teaches them how to act in a positive way instead of negatively. By saying... I'm glad that happened because they were ruining the experience for everyone. Kids that there cues from the people that they know are trying to protect them. Sometimes by over protection we really are causing more harm then good.

This is my opinion and I know many will not agree with it, but something has gone wrong and we have become a society that lacks any class or consideration because so many were not taught to have any or know why is it important to have.

Disney is NOT going to have these altercations in front of a large group of people if they can avoid it. It goes against several "Keys" including Good Show and Safety. So wishing they would for whatever reason is okay but not likely to happen.

 

[lovethattink]

If we can, let’s please get back on track. Topic is, Will the Hall of Presidents Ever Open? Please stop discussing altercations.

It would be nice to keep a thread about a theme park attraction on the theme park board.

 

[NYCgrrl]

Fortunately I live in a region with many museums so no need to visit the HoP @ WDW.
Never sparked my interest to enter.

 

[Dakota731]

Let's keep the politics off this thread as much as we can because the answer to questions like that are often complicated. Real life people are not Disney characters and are complex and flawed and someone's hero is easily someone else's villain.

So then I guess kids can have no real life heroes any more? How about people can choose to admire anyone they want and anyone has the right to disagree with the choice. But they don’t have the right to get violent or abusive because they don’t have the same hero. I don’t want to live in a country where we are all forced to think one way and have no freedom of our own thoughts and words.

 

[lovethattink]

Please use the controversial topic forum for any further discussion that isn’t about the attraction’s opening date. Link Controversial Topic Board