Will DVC offer a Black Friday Special deal

[csharpwv]

I think there are many influences in this post that are leaving out one point.

Disney has the ability to restart sales at a sold out resort with a new expiration date on the points.

Yeah, it would take some legal wrangling, and offering extensions to current owners... But it could happen quite easily. They already offered an extension to OKW owners - it was a decent deal, not great, but attractive enough.

With as low as the point prices have been going at OKW, and SSR, I can easily see Disney cleaning out the resale market on every contract below $90 - reselling for $130 - with a longer contract option.

There are so many creative variables in Disney's files... the number of ways that Disney can close in an inventory gap is huge.

With so many resorts, Disney had to hit a wall with building new resorts sooner or later, (building new, and adding on to old)... same gig bag.

Now... as far as deals or discounts at VGF...

The price per point is so high now that sales don't have to be as high as they have been.

When prices were below $100 per point and the minimum buy in was 150 points - (for the sake of argument, let's say $95pp) the income from that was $14,250

150 points at VGF - at $150 per point is $22,500.

For new buyers, they aren't buying 150 points. With a 1BR in low season, standard view, going for nearly 250 points for a week.... new buyers are seeing the need for 250+ points.

Sales don't need to be quite as high as they had been in the past when you are selling for such a higher price.

That being said, I don't think NEARLY as many current DVC member were as excited about VGF as current members who are excited about the Poly. I think that was their biggest mistake - Poly would be sold out already, even at $150 per point.

Too many people see the Grand Floridian as stuffy, old, and not 'the' place to be.

They had great sales this summer, they have some padding (stacks of cash) to sit on for a while. I don't see them getting too excited any time soon.

That said... I think the new leadership is never going to hold up to what Claire Bilby did for members. She really led the organization the way it should have been led all along. She realized the value, and how valuable CURRENT DVC Members are to the success of DVC in the long run. She didn't see it as a cash cow, she saw it as a close knit family of Disney fan, hard core, money where their mouse is, fans. She worked hard to bring new discounts, experiences, and interactions - under her leadership FAR more would have been done to sell VGF to current members at a price that would have led to FAR more pre-sales.

However, this new top dollar sales figures are VERY off-putting to average Disney visitors. DVC is now, (it was in the past as well), overpriced. There are far too many people that will look at the sales number and say NO WAY, NEVER.

Anyway - I wouldn't expect any big deals on Black Friday - yes, Black Friday is all about the impulse buy, but not really to the tune of MANY years of salary for most Americans. ( YES, I'm looking at YOU, $279,375 fixed week DVC purchase needed for a week in a GV during peak season every year!)

With that kind of cash flowing in.... you have to remember that price per point plays a big role!

 

[lovin'fl]

huh?
I FP+ for TT, Soarin & Mission Space 3 days ago, all for the same day for both my DH & I. It went off without a glitch. It was GREAT! So far, I really like FP+.
We were also able to cancel all our FP'S for AKP and switch them to MK - Pirates, Space Mountain and HM, all on the day we decided not to go to AKP and all while standing on Main Street. It worked out great.

They had it tiered at Epcot. We booked our Dec 20-25 FP+ resies almost 2 weeks ago (we= all my inlaws who are going on the trip, 4 families of 15 of us total). Could only select 1 of the 3 (Soarin', Test Track and Maelstrom), so we had to do 2/5 days at Epcot to hit both Soarin and TT. I had booked a month ago for my fam of 5 and did get all 3 on the same day, but all my inlaws could not 2 weeks ago.

Edited to add: Just read on another forum that HS is now (starting early next week) tiered as well.
Tier 1- TSM, R'nRC, Fantasmic and Beauty and the Beast (pick 1 only and 2 from the tier 2 group)
If you, like I do, already have FP+ booked at HS and have 2-3 from Tier 1 group, do NOT edit/adjust your FP+ (you will be made to choose only 1 from Tier 1).
http://www.wdwmagic.com/other/mymag...sting-restrictions-on-fastpass-selections.htm

 

[sweetdana]

They had it tiered at Epcot. We booked our Dec 20-25 FP+ resies almost 2 weeks ago (we= all my inlaws who are going on the trip, 4 families of 15 of us total). Could only select 1 of the 3 (Soarin', Test Track and Maelstrom), so we had to do 2/5 days at Epcot to hit both Soarin and TT. I had booked a month ago for my fam of 5 and did get all 3 on the same day, but all my inlaws could not 2 weeks ago.

Edited to add: Just read on another forum that HS is now (starting early next week) tiered as well.
Tier 1- TSM, R'nRC, Fantasmic and Beauty and the Beast (pick 1 only and 2 from the tier 2 group)
If you, like I do, already have FP+ booked at HS and have 2-3 from Tier 1 group, do NOT edit/adjust your FP+ (you will be made to choose only 1 from Tier 1).
http://www.wdwmagic.com/other/mymag...sting-restrictions-on-fastpass-selections.htm

I was so upset last night, I truly hope they allow this to work with paper FP, or I will not be buying tickets for sure staying at the BC, for 3 nights after my Dis cruise in April. I was holding off just in case the paper machines go away, but I cannot go to Epcot and not ride both TT and Soarin this is even worse. I cannot have DH wait in a 60 min line with DD8 for an hour, then again for something else another day, or later cause kiddo wants M2M. I won't spend the whole day with the DD2 waiting for the rest of my family to get off a ride.
The current FP system worked for us. We rode less rides, we waited between FP, (or went on shorter rides, or went shopping/dining.) We hung out together except the 15 min it took to ride the ride. If they keep them together with less FP okay, win.
Waiting in long lines with little ones is not a vacation to me, nor is splitting up for hours to get on rides.

I will book my Dec 2014 trip now, but if the paper FP machines are closed, I will rent my DVC points out, and stay onsite for US in Dec 2014 instead.. and skip the lines there instead.
If it goes away, I will try it once after I run out of other places I wanted to go, and if it doesn't work and we have to miss the big rides cause of 30 - 45- 60 min waits, we are done. Atlantis, is beautiful, US has less views, but is improving every day and no waits, and we have many places we have not ventured too. I will miss BIG time Disney, but my time is too valuable.

This may not be DVC, but this certainly changes the likeliness of buying at the Poly (assuming they added the hot tub.) I cannot/will not, until this is fixed for a workable solution for my family.

 

[lovin'fl]

I was so upset last night, I truly hope they allow this to work with paper FP, or I will not be buying tickets for sure staying at the BC, for 3 nights after my Dis cruise in April. I was holding off just in case the paper machines go away, but I cannot go to Epcot and not ride both TT and Soarin this is even worse. I cannot have DH wait in a 60 min line with DD8 for an hour, then again for something else another day, or later cause kiddo wants M2M. I won't spend the whole day with the DD2 waiting for the rest of my family to get off a ride.
The current FP system worked for us. We rode less rides, we waited between FP, (or went on shorter rides, or went shopping/dining.) We hung out together except the 15 min it took to ride the ride. If they keep them together with less FP okay, win.
Waiting in long lines with little ones is not a vacation to me, nor is splitting up for hours to get on rides.

I will book my Dec 2014 trip now, but if the paper FP machines are closed, I will rent my DVC points out, and stay onsite for US in Dec 2014 instead.. and skip the lines there instead.
If it goes away, I will try it once after I run out of other places I wanted to go, and if it doesn't work and we have to miss the big rides cause of 30 - 45- 60 min waits, we are done. Atlantis, is beautiful, US has less views, but is improving every day and no waits, and we have many places we have not ventured too. I will miss BIG time Disney, but my time is too valuable.

This may not be DVC, but this certainly changes the likeliness of buying at the Poly (assuming they added the hot tub.) I cannot/will not, until this is fixed for a workable solution for my family.

I agree. I don't think we'll add on any more points until we see how this all shakes out too (black Friday deal or not)....as much as I'd love an Epcot convenient resort for F&W.

 

[SpaceMountain77]

From a business perspective, a tiered Fastpass+ system is quite ingenious. Guests who want to experience multiple tier 1 attractions, in the same park, will need to decide between waiting in line or adding an additional day.

Regarding Epcot, I suspect the current test will determine if guests schedule a Soarin' day and a Test Track day.

If a tiered system is ultimately implemented, then there has been speculation, on other discussion boards, that additional tier 1 fastpass+ passes may be available for an additional fee.

 

[dizfan]

I doubt there will be a Black Friday promotion. When doorway to dreams had the last one, DVC was sitting on a ton of points. Remember, the crash resulted in a lot of points coming back to Disney. Remember, many of those points coming back came over a year after the stock market started recovering in March of 2009.

Today, Disney is more concerned with running low on points which is why they are in such a rush to build Poly. Selling 100k points per month at $150 pt is equal to selling 150k points per month at $100 per point. Selling fewer points for the same revenue may allow them to build less, have fewer staff, etc