Wicked was.... well... WICKED!

[wishspirit]

Thank you so much for the recommendation, I had a really nice time seeing it in London's West End!

Although the last song 'For Good' made me get a bit teary, as it reminded me of the best of Bob show!

Have a great Christmas everyone!

 

[wdwscout]

Glad you enjoyed it. It's one of my favorite Broadway musicals.
And "For Good" makes me tear up every time I hear it.

 

[robind]

Wicked is coming to Richmond in March and I am taking my cousin, it's her Christmas present, I can't wait.

 

[kaligal]

I did not hate Wicked. I am NOT a Wicked-hater.

But one little thing bothers me that nobody else seems to be bothered by IRL. Continuity. There is none. It doesn't actually go with the movie, though it rather claims to do that.

Does this bother anyone else????????

I don't hate Wicked and am not picking on it. I just think that if you set up a premise, you ought to stick to it. And it is difficult to suspend disbelief when the rules created by the writers are broken, KWIM?

Maybe it is just me.

And I don't hate Wicked. It's not up there with My Fair Lady or anything, but I didn't hate it the way I hated...oh, say, Rent.

 

[kafitty]

I did not hate Wicked. I am NOT a Wicked-hater.

But one little thing bothers me that nobody else seems to be bothered by IRL. Continuity. There is none. It doesn't actually go with the movie, though it rather claims to do that.

Does this bother anyone else????????

I don't hate Wicked and am not picking on it. I just think that if you set up a premise, you ought to stick to it. And it is difficult to suspend disbelief when the rules created by the writers are broken, KWIM?

Maybe it is just me.

And I don't hate Wicked. It's not up there with My Fair Lady or anything, but I didn't hate it the way I hated...oh, say, Rent.

well, the musical is based on a book. And the author of that book, Gregory Maguire, sees it more as a re-telling of the story, since he's not the original author of the book the movie was based on. He's just telling the "other" side.

i suggest reading the book - it's a lot darker, but it kind of explains things a little better. He does some other re-tellings of some classic fairy tales. Son of a Witch, the sequel to Wicked, is a whole new story, too. One that i'm not particularly fond of, btw, but it is interesting to have a whole different perspective on a classic story.


OP...glad you enjoyed the show!! i don't think i'll ever tire of it.

 

[DisneyKevin]

I did not hate Wicked. I am NOT a Wicked-hater.

But one little thing bothers me that nobody else seems to be bothered by IRL. Continuity. There is none. It doesn't actually go with the movie, though it rather claims to do that.

Does this bother anyone else????????

I don't hate Wicked and am not picking on it. I just think that if you set up a premise, you ought to stick to it. And it is difficult to suspend disbelief when the rules created by the writers are broken, KWIM?

Maybe it is just me.

And I don't hate Wicked. It's not up there with My Fair Lady or anything, but I didn't hate it the way I hated...oh, say, Rent.

There are story line incongruities in My Fair Lady as well....if you are comparing it to George Bernard Shaw's Pygmalion on which it is based.

I think that any time you add songs to a non-musical form...you will get incongruities.

 

[disneyholic family]

Thank you so much for the recommendation, I had a really nice time seeing it in London's West End!

Although the last song 'For Good' made me get a bit teary, as it reminded me of the best of Bob show!

Have a great Christmas everyone!

glad to hear you enjoyed it!! I loved it and am looking forward to seeing it again when i'm in NYC in July!!

 

[Launchpad11B]

There are story line incongruities in My Fair Lady as well....if you are comparing it to George Bernard Shaw's Pygmalion on which it is based.

I think that any time you add songs to a non-musical form...you will get incongruities.

Wow, "incongruities"! Kevin gets todays award for best word use!! We are going to see it tomorrow at Proctors.

 

[Tink rules]

Dare I mention that Scarlett O'hara had 2 extra children in the book????


I saw the National Tour of Wicked here last week.... It was VERY good.... You have to take it on it's own rather than compare it with the movie... I watched Wiz of Oz a couple of days after and didn't really have to try and match the two...

 

[wishspirit]

I did not hate Wicked. I am NOT a Wicked-hater.

But one little thing bothers me that nobody else seems to be bothered by IRL. Continuity. There is none. It doesn't actually go with the movie, though it rather claims to do that.

Does this bother anyone else????????

I don't hate Wicked and am not picking on it. I just think that if you set up a premise, you ought to stick to it. And it is difficult to suspend disbelief when the rules created by the writers are broken, KWIM?

Maybe it is just me.

And I don't hate Wicked. It's not up there with My Fair Lady or anything, but I didn't hate it the way I hated...oh, say, Rent.

I saw some places where it didn't quite match, mainly nearer the end. Yet with all books/ film, you have to suspend disbelief to make it work at all. So I try and see it that way. It didn't bother me that much, I think they tried to make it work enough for it to mesh well enough. I did get a bit confused in the storyline from time to time.

The only one that did catch me was the guards, I love the bit in the film where they are marching outside chanting, makes me giggle! Yet they were apparently trying to catch her in Wicked. That did confuse me at first!

There are story line incongruities in My Fair Lady as well....if you are comparing it to George Bernard Shaw's Pygmalion on which it is based.

I think that any time you add songs to a non-musical form...you will get incongruities.

Very true Kevin!

 

[future84]

Wicked was life altering! The way that Elphaba and GaLinda became frineds despite their differences, and the way they still remained friends after the huge fight at the wizards.

"Wizard and I", "defying gravity" and "for good" (all the songs with the "unlimited" motif are fabulous!

I would like u to point out these incosistencies. I believe the musical is perfect. It still fits into the 1939 movie!

 

[Sammie]

I did not hate Wicked. I am NOT a Wicked-hater.

But one little thing bothers me that nobody else seems to be bothered by IRL. Continuity. There is none. It doesn't actually go with the movie, though it rather claims to do that.

Does this bother anyone else????????

I don't hate Wicked and am not picking on it. I just think that if you set up a premise, you ought to stick to it. And it is difficult to suspend disbelief when the rules created by the writers are broken, KWIM?

Maybe it is just me.

And I don't hate Wicked. It's not up there with My Fair Lady or anything, but I didn't hate it the way I hated...oh, say, Rent.

It was not just you, I was not overly impressed either. I liked it, it was ok, but it was not in the calaber of Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, Phantom and many others, that made me say, Wow!

 

[Tink rules]

I think it's a toss up also... my mom wasn't very impressed with it and neither was my neighbor...

That said... they are older and DID have the opportunity to see MANY musicals on broadway (the classics) when they first came out. (I'm talkin the 1940's and 50's...)

Now the reviewer here hated it - liked some of the songs and the performances, but thought it went too far from the book. It was a musical... not the book...

 

[Tink rules]

That said...

I got to see it for $30 bucks a ticket... sitting up in the "Cloud Club" (the last 10 rows of the balcony - I've seen about 8 shows - all broadway tours from there). So I got to see it for FAR less than probably the WELL over $100 it would have taken me to see it ONCE in NYC.

 

[daneenm]

Glad to hear you enjoyed it Kate! We are taking our DD for her 13th birthday in a few weeks to see it in San Francisco. DH and I saw it this summer and both really enjoyed it - he did not think he would like it. DD has been singing with the soundtrack since we brought it home from that show.

I enjoyed the tie ins to the movie (I have not read either book) and found it very easy to overlook the other "incongruities."

 

[Tink rules]

If she's 13... she's gonna LOVE IT!!!

make sure to get the soundtrack for her before and give it to her that day...she'll want to listen to it over and over after that!!!

 

[SnackyStacky]

It was not just you, I was not overly impressed either. I liked it, it was ok, but it was not in the calaber of Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, Phantom and many others, that made me say, Wow!

Loved Wicked - and just have never been wowed by the others, with the exception of Beauty and the Beast. Phantom and Lion King both have PHENOMENAL production values (sets, costumes, orchestrations, etc.) but the scores and the books of both are some of the weakest I've ever sat through.

Even Beauty and the Beast - LOVED the score, and thought it was a well-written book - but the direction just got a little tired to me. Didn't care for the cartoon feel (ie: sound effects, over-the-top character acting) of it. I get you're somewhat limited when trying to bring to life a talking candleabra and mantle clock, but I digress....

Different strokes!

 

[Tink rules]

Best one with the minimal of sets... Le Miz.... I thought I wouldn't like it after Phantom... but it just blew me away... I've seen it 4 times...

 

[kaligal]

There are story line incongruities in My Fair Lady as well....if you are comparing it to George Bernard Shaw's Pygmalion on which it is based.

I think that any time you add songs to a non-musical form...you will get incongruities.

Dare I mention that Scarlett O'hara had 2 extra children in the book????

You each get a flower because Tink brought up "Gone With The Wind" in which Leslie Howard played Ashley and Kevin brought up "Pygmalion" in which Leslie Howard played Henry Higgins.

I've seen "Gone With The Wind" and I read the book. While OF COURSE the book is better, the movie is great on its own merits. I confess to not having read Pygmalion. I watched the movie once a long time ago.

The difference between "Wicked" and these examples is that your examples are of things that are based on other things. They didn't attempt to work in stuff that they didn't address. There is no Will in GWTW. I liked Will a lot, but don't hold his absence against the movie. They can only put in so much.

Wicked, OTOH, is very much about the characters and the story of WoO and even works them all into the story, both as prequel and as parallel story...and yet it doesn't all mesh. You don't attempt to set the man you love on fire. And while they do kinda/sorta address that, him forgiving her does not explain WHY she would wish to actually murder him and go about attempting to do so.

That's just one example. I found myself sitting in the theater thinking, "Wait, if X, then Y..." and "How could that be if..."

They set it up to be congruous with the movie and they broke their own rules.

Again, I don't hate Wicked. I liked it - both the idea of it and the play itself. There were parts of it that I enjoyed very much. I just couldn't help but be dragged out of the story when thinking about how it didn't all blend.

I think that if you're going to set something up to go with something else...you ought to do it. It bugged me.

Doesn't seem to bug anyone else IRL or on the Dis, so I will be content to be alone in my buggedness.

But I will not abide anyone who puts it in a league with "My Fair Lady." Them's fightin words.

Nobody tromps Eliza. Or Miss Julie Andrews.

 

[Tink rules]

So... I you "said" I was right before you said Kevin was???

YES!!!!

(don't worry about correcting me... I just wanted to be before Kevin ONCE in my life... )