Why no SSR love?

[Disney Doll]

SSR is an on-site resort, boatboatboat, and for you to keep referring to it as an off-site resort tells me one of two things about you...you are ignorant about the details of DVC or you are intentionally trying to be insulting to the owners of SSR. Frankly, I hope it's ignorance on your part, because intentional rudeness is abhorrent.

SSR appears to be a lovely resort, and one that I am sure we will stay in one day. It's location doesn't bother me a bit...I have no problem busing, boating or driving to where I need to be. I know some folks like to be on the monorail, and that is certainly a matter of personal preference. If they ever build a DVC resort on the monorail, I am sure it will be quite popular. I know some folks like to be within walking distance to Epcot/MGM...that is certainly a plus for the BWV/BCV resorts, but not a deal-breaker for me.

All the DVC have plusses and minuses. And I am certainly not afraid to point out the minuses in an effort to possibly improve the system, the resort or its service. However, I think I am realistic about what I have here...it's a timeshare, it's better than the average timeshare, but it's a timeshare nonetheless. I expect that the units will show some wear and tear on occasion, and I report the same to the people who can fix it. I expect that a CM may be less than magical on occasion because they are human, so I pretty much let it slide, unless it is an extreme situation.

As far as SSR's impact on the DVC product itself...we go through this every time a new resort is built. There's the "oh my God, we aren't going to be able to get a room at XYZ because all the 'new' people will want to stay there". That may be partially true at first...I know DH & I stayed at all the new resorts as they came on board, to try them out...we owned early on, when only OKW & BWV were available, so as each new resort was built, we'd stay there to see what it was like. The bottom line is though that SSR owners have the same rights as every other DVC owner to stay where they want. I am quite sure there are people who have bought OKW resales for a reasonable price who have no intention of ever staying at OKW. SSR's location is not desirable to some. Well, guess what? At any given time, the location of any one of the resorts may not be desirable. I like staying in the Boardwalk area sometimes. And sometimes I prefer the peace and quiet of OKW or the serenity of VWL. Maybe for one trip I might be interested in being closer to DTD to try several of their restaurants, to go to the Adventurers Club every night and be able to get "home" quickly, to have a more "adult activities" oriented trip, so I'll go to SSR. Maybe one trip I want to be close to Epcot because of the F&W Festival, so I want to stay at the BCV or BWV. Maybe one trip is going to be a golfing vacation, so I want to be at OKW. Maybe one trip I feel the need for a slower pace and some serenity, so I decide to go to VWL and lounge by the pool or on their beach, walk the wooded trails, sit by the cozy lobby fire. My point is that there is no one resort that appeals to everybody all the time, so let's just relax and let things settle down, and I think it'll be fine.

 

[boatboatboat]

The number I would like to see is what % of owners from each resort book a stay in a non HOME resort each year. Now while you may not agree i would for this example lump BWV and BCV togather due to their location and fact they some what share the same settings, and walking distance to epcot.

IMO, that is the number.......

 

[Gavin&Evan]

I couldn't agree with Jen D. more....we recently bought at SSR fully aware that if we wanted to stay at another DVC property, that we would be unable to until the 7 month window.

 

[boatboatboat]

we disagree Disney Doll.

SSR is off site from my perspective.

To me "on site" is a ten min walk.

I bought "on site" so i could do that.


Downtown Disney is nice, we spend atleast 3 hours there every time we go to WDW, for a WEEK. Lunch, buy a bag full of WDW stuff, and leave.....


I have no doubt SSR is a world class resort, all DVC's are. But the location for a WDW Orlando resort is sub par. Honest.........

Once again, I have no beef with SSR owners. I DO HAVE A BEEF with Disney using BWV and BCV to market SSR.

 

[tomandrobin]

I agree, works just like any other timeshare. There are never more sold then can be used. Not everyone can go every year. Life gets in the way.

Because I bought BWV so i could take a 10 min walk to epcot for dinner at any one of the many many choices.
I can see that, as I would too.


Disney has or will sell enough DVC contracts to SSR, that when THOSE OWNERS book stays at BCV and BWV, the chances of me being able to be a week long stay at 4-5 mths out are slim.
Wow, very presumptous that everyone is just falling over themselves to stay at BCV and BWV. Do you really think that any of those BCV or BWV only stay at thier home resort? That only those two select groups don't trade out? Did you not read your contract about home resort planning? Its a timeshare! If you don't plan properly, you won't get!

People IMO who own, SSR are looking forward to staying at BCV and BWV, much more then owners of BWV and BCV are looking forward to staying at SSR.
Wow, can you imagine the nerve of those other DVC members excerising thier rights at 7 months window to try another resort! And to think thow much they convent to take over the other resorts? Why buy at SSR when you can buy at BWV or BCV resale or direct from DVC?

Please keep in mind, my beef is with Disney, not a SSR owner. I agree that Disney did plan all of this. Keep in mind the next two resorts will be smaller than SSR, thus preserving the balance of all things.

I would have bought BWV if i knew I could never stay any where else. Would a SSR owner have bought SSR if they knew they could never stay anywhere other then SSR? Doubtful IMO....
What poll did you take or read that says " Most SSR owners will not stay at thier home resort"? I would like to read it!

Once again, my beef is with Disney, not the SSR owner.
Agree!

How much of the SSR sales presentation is showing the buyer how they can stay at other places? The sales presentation at BWV spent 5 min tops showing how you could stay other places. BWV sold it's self based on it's self.I went on the sales tour. BCV and BWV was not of the sales pitch to me. It was all about SSR. It was mentioned during the Disney Collection presentation about staying at ALL of the other DVC resorts, including the future resorts. BWV and BCV were not singled out. How many presentations were you on that specifically used BCV and BWV as the carrot to get you to buy?

The people who will REALLY be left holding the bag are the HH and Vero beach owners.
Maybe, but probably not. Everyone vacations and uses DVC differently. If you like the fall, someone else may like the spring. Some are older with no kids, some are just starting out with little children.

If you own at any of the Orlando resorts, you will in most cases be able to get in somewhere and have a vacation with WDW magic. The people who own HH and Vero want to stay at HH and Vero, that is a far cry from staying at a Orlando DVC.

 

[DVC Sadie]

Well what I have noticed is its the same old people who complain about SSR owners so I just don't pay any attention anymore. There are some great DVC posters who have always been so very helpful with all the questions that I and others have asked whether its in regards to buying or planning DVC vacations and I personally thank them.To all of the other posters just enjoy your DVC purchase and vacation no matter where you purchased or where you end up staying.

 

[missymagic]

SSR was perfect for me I am a single mom starting a new life with my girls. Our trips to Disney every year are cherished memories we will carry together forever. Long after I finish paying for my timeshare I pray my children can share the same joys with their children at our home away from home. Remember the new generations coming up. My parents couldn't afford to so it when I was little but I can share this with my childrena nd my parents.

 

[boatboatboat]

I agree, works just like any other timeshare. There are never more sold then can be used. Not everyone can go every year. Life gets in the way.

Do keep in mind that DVC was sold to owners because, "well gosh darn it, it is just so flexable"........ other time shares are sold on FIXED weeks. kinda hard to be flexable and book a trip 6 mths out, when your home resort is FULL due to disney using YOUR HOME, to sell other sites.

 

[Squidrific]

I would have bought BWV if i knew I could never stay any where else. Would a SSR owner have bought SSR if they knew they could never stay anywhere other then SSR? Doubtful IMO....

WELL I for one would like to contradict your statement above. I bought SSR and plan to stay there every time I go. I didn't buy into it so that I could switch to the other resorts. Maybe someday I might spend 1 or 2 days at a different resort just to experience what each resort has to offer and see them firsthand, but if I can't get in that is fine. I made my purchase with the intent to stay at SSR each and every time I vacation. I could have purchased resale, to get into the sold out resorts, but I liked SSR the best and it fits my vacationing needs the best.

boatboatboat: Posting a stereotypical generalization based on your own biases is - bigotry! Which although you say differently reinforces your feeling that SSR owners are trash. I didn't really plan to get into this discussion, but your comments directed towards SSR and people like me who purchased there - I find offensive. I don't have problems with constructive criticism about what people like and dislike about the resorts, but your disdain is ridiculous!

 

[tomandrobin]

LOL...so there are currently five off-site DVC resorts. LOL, nope.....no bias there! snicker snicker

we disagree Disney Doll.

SSR is off site from my perspective.

To me "on site" is a ten min walk.

I bought "on site" so i could do that.


Downtown Disney is nice, we spend atleast 3 hours there every time we go to WDW, for a WEEK. Lunch, buy a bag full of WDW stuff, and leave.....


I have no doubt SSR is a world class resort, all DVC's are. But the location for a WDW Orlando resort is sub par. Honest.........

Once again, I have no beef with SSR owners. I DO HAVE A BEEF with Disney using BWV and BCV to market SSR.

 

[boatboatboat]

<sigh>

 

[tomandrobin]

Do keep in mind that DVC was sold to owners because, "well gosh darn it, it is just so flexable"........ other time shares are sold on FIXED weeks. kinda hard to be flexable and book a trip 6 mths out, when your home resort is FULL due to disney using YOUR HOME, to sell other sites.

Well. you are so wrong there! Now a days most timeshares are sold in float seasons or points. There are fixed weeks at high demnd times of the year, like Christmas. But like Disney, they other timeshare companies have realized that to be successful, you need to be flexible to your client needs.

 

[boatboatboat]

Well. you are so wrong there!


Try trading out of dvc for a partial week and let me know how that goes.

It's ironic sometimes how things work out. I just openend a thread and found 2 post from TODAY, about SSR owner booking into BWV, at the 7 mth mark.

I do understand that as a BWV owner i do have the 11 mth window, and except for Easter, Spring break, Thanksgiving, and Christmas,I will always be able to book at 7 mths and one day. But the game is certainly changing. long gone are the days of calling 3 mths out and having a REAL good chance of finding a room to fit your needs.

I feel VERY safe in saying if Disney built a 2000 unit time share, that had a less location less desireable then SSR, that SSR owners would be upset with Disney, if Disney was selling the new units by telling the buyers they will able to stay at SSR.


Like I said before the folks really getting ready to get a rude awaking are HH and Vero.

 

[SaratogaShan]

people IMO who own, SSR are looking forward to staying at BCV and BWV, much more then owners of BWV and BCV are looking forward to staying at SSR.

Wow, you sure do make a lot of assumptions. You talk as if folks who own at the smaller resorts NEVER stay anywhere else but their home resort. It seems like most people want a little variety now and then. Some brave and adventurous BWV and BCV owners may be braving the vast expanse that is Saratoga Springs as we speak! GASP! They may even survive!

 

[cobbler]

Now putting the shoe on the other foot. I guess if I was an owner at BC / BW / VWL I would have some concern IF there wasn't a 4 month window priority. I sure would be calling day by day no matter what.

But since there is a home resort booking priority I don't see how this can really be an issue.

I will have issue if I get shut out completely ANYWHERE when I try to book but that isn't likely to happen.

In the grand scheme of things owning in the "slums" (my term to humor myself) at SSR isn't all that bad

 

[tomandrobin]

Well. you are so wrong there!


Try trading out of dvc for a partial week and let me know how that goes.

Ah, that shows your ignorance of how timeshares work! The partial stays are internal to DVC. Starwood works the same way internally. I can stay for partial weeks within thier system, but only do week trades outside of Starwood. Many of the other timeshare offer fimilar internal trading opportunities. Trades made with II or RCI are always weeks for weeks, never days. That is a DVC, internal benifit.

 

[abbysmema]

Count me among the SSR owners who have no desire to stay elsewhere. I was fortunate enough to try all the properties when they opened as hotels. My favorite is the GF, which has no DVC. My husband heads right to the spa when we return from the parks midday while my family enjoys the quiet pool. When we do go over to the main pool I have never had a problem with seating. We almost always use our car at night and have found the parking outside our room very convenient. We love the room decor and the peace of the resort. For such a large resort it might be one of the quietest. I guess this proves that there is something for everyone. SSR is for us! Marie

 

[shantay1008]

Okay, I've got my popcorn...ready to jump back into "As the DVC World Turns." Did someone really call us "trash"? Seriously? Seriously? That's actually sort of funny, in a mean way. I haven't seen this much drama since I was in a sorority back in college. Only we substituted "Alpha Gamma Delta" and "Kappa Kappa Gamma" for "BCV" and "SSR." Of course, I only lasted a year.

Poor boatboatboat (b-cubed)...he/she does keep saying "I'm not blaming the SSR owners, just DVC." Can't we just build another theme park between OKW and SSR?

edit: oops, I wrote OKR

 

[scottb8888]

I have been staying on Disney property since the begining. My favorite (and now my wif'es) location was always the Vacation Villas or the Club Lake Villas. It's far enough away from the madness that you can relax, yet you can grab a bus and be there in minutes. Several years ago we were flying to Florida for anothr visit and were seated next to the parents of a DVC employee. Through conversation we found that SSR was being designed. From that moment on we knew that when we bought DVC, SSR was the right place for our family.

 

[shantay1008]

I feel VERY safe in saying if Disney built a 2000 unit time share, that had a less location less desireable then SSR, that SSR owners would be upset with Disney, if Disney was selling the new units by telling the buyers they will able to stay at SSR.

This is interesting...do you think there's truth to this?