Why no SSR love?

[tomandrobin]

Well. you are so wrong there!

Also, just to let you know. I used my Starwood points, that i got from my Westin timeshare to stay at the Swan for 5 nights during Christmas/New Years 2006. Nine months out and only 5 days. Its all about flexibilty my friend!
The Swan is not a timeshare, but I can you my Starwood timeshare to book my stay there....even for a partial week.

 

[boatboatboat]

Poor boatboatboat (b-cubed)...he/she does keep saying "I'm not blaming the SSR owners, just DVC."
edit: oops, I wrote OKR

yup.......... I have said that over and over.

 

[DisFamily2006]

I'm sooooo glad this thread was started. I've noticed the negative comments about SSR and have almost completely stopped following the boards because of it. As stated earlier, no one wants to hear that their resort is substandard. It's all a matter of opinion. SSR will come into it's own. The landscaping will mature. The areas that may need improving will be improved (as has been already demonstrated with the Turf Club). I guess I can understand someone feeling a bit threatened by the thought that they won't be able to get their home resort on short notice, but I can't imagine MY vacation ever being ruined by not being able to stay in the exact resort I want EVERY time. What's next, a person will want a specific room number or their vacation will suck? All of this negativity just takes the fun out of the whole DVC/Disney experience. My wife put it quite eloquently when she said "If we are going to constantly worry about the details of DVC accomodations then it's just not worth purchasing." I've been going to WDW my whole life and have stayed in many of the WDW resorts. I've never stayed in a bad one and don't think I ever will (because there aren't any).

 

[boatboatboat]

Well. you are so wrong there!

High Five.............

 

[SaratogaShan]

boatboatboat,

I want you to rest easy now. I just called MS to change my BWV reservation over to SSR!

 

[boatboatboat]

I bet SSR had an opening.........

 

[spiceycat]

everytime and mean everytime a new DVC resort has been built - the same response from people who own at the others.

it is silly!!!

don't let it affect you.

You should see this board when BWV and BCV were built - not to mention VWL....

Disney knows that different people like different things. They are much wiser than the posters on this boards. Think how boring life would be if everyone like the same thing....

SSR is a beautiful resort!!! DVC spend alot of money on this place and it shows!!!

It is definitely the classics DVC resort to day.

my problem is I felt out of place

it was too upscale for me. I prefer OKW. but that doesn't mean that SSR isn't great!

It definitely is!!!!

Give it a few years - or better yet - wait until the next DVC resort is built....

then you will heard the same comments about it.

 

[boatboatboat]

I wonder why Disney didn't build at that location first?

 

[tomandrobin]

Wow, you sure do make a lot of assumptions

Yes I do, and they are based upon common sense.


But since there is a home resort booking priority I don't see how this can really be an issue. Agee

It is an issue when you have been able to book at 4 mths out for the last 6 years, and now you can't. To say other wise is foolish.Agree on this also!


Ah, that shows your ignorance of how timeshares work!

You scored a pretty good one there. Did you high five the person beside you?

Sometimes a discussion can get of track, and IMO this discussion for ME has done that. What follows are my first three comments in this thread. They explain my thoughts.

#1 IMO the anti SSR attitude can be in part due to concern that with SSR being SO LARGE, and having SO MANY owners that those owners will make it harder for people to get last min rooms (with in 7 mths)at the smaller resorts.I do think that the larger DVC gets the harder it will be to book last minute. Regardless of SSR, CRV or AKV being built. Its all about percentages. After SSR, when the next DVC resort is built the precentages get smaller again. That is why you have that 11 month window.

I think the days of booking a room at HH or Vero at 2 mths out may well be over.Except in January!

#2 Speaking for MY SELF, my concern is that there will be a $hit pile of SSR contracts sold(it's a large off site resort). IMO the people who buy at a resort such as SSR are MUCH more likely to try and book rooms into the BCV's and the BWV's simpy due to location. When BCV was built, it in some ways took some of the preasure off of the BWV's. SSR is IMO going to put more strain on availabilty.If you look purely at precentages, not true. But 10% of 850 is 85, as oppose to 10% of 665 is 66. These are hypothetical precentages of SSR and BCV/BWv wanting to stay at other resorts. And why wouldn't a BCV/BWV owner want to stay in SSR for the spa and just visting DTD without going to any of the parks?

I may be wrong, but i doubt if you see many BWV or BCV owners trying to book stays at SSR, I simply don't think that will happen. But IMO and IMO only you will see MANY SSR owners booking into BWV and BCV's.Specualting, until you show us the numbers from a poll or DVC report.

#3 Muushka I don't think anyone is putting down a resort or an owner. I think people are putting down Disney and how they are marketing the newer resorts.Some are putting others down, not all.

I think, people are concerned that people are being sold SSR and shown pics of BCV and BWV and told that they will be able to stay at those places. Those places are already sold out.......Actually, they show all of the resorts and they still sell BCV/BWV. I called, they do.

How many resorts is Disney going to sell using "you can walk to epcot" as part of the sales pitch? At what point in time is it obvious that Disney is harming their CURRENT owners in an effort to market off site resorts?They also tell you that you can take a boat from VWL to Magic Kingdom or Swim in the ocean at Vero and Hilton Head.They also mention yo ucan walk to DTD in 10 minutes...go figure, a convience to something Disney!


How will an SSR owner feel when a resort is sold in downtown Detroit and the owners are shown pics of SSR and told "you can stay here when ever you want".

LOL....Lets be realistic here. California and Hawaii have more of a chance. But once they do, DVC members will flow both ways.

 

[sajetto]

People IMO who own, SSR are looking forward to staying at BCV and BWV, much more then owners of BWV and BCV are looking forward to staying at SSR.
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You've got to be kidding. You are making some serious conclusions if you aren't. I own SSR and do not have, nor will I have the desire to stay at either BCV or BWV. I'm sure to others they are lovely, and I have never slammed anyone else's "home" However, I will inform you that I live on the southern coast of NC so the theme does not appeal to me. Nor do the linens used at BWV and the clown slide freaks me out. BCV has to much of a "beachy" feel for me. I see the ocean day in and day out and I see the same color schemes around here day after day. Now, after saying this I'll sound crazy, but I do love OKW the reasoning for this is b/c it is tropical. Where I live there are no palm trees so those really appeal to me. The Yacht and Beach club are themes reoccuring in this area.

I think you may want to get a little perspective before you offend many on these boards and apparently I am not the only one who read your post and had this expression

 

[boatboatboat]

If I were to call member services and ask about 4 days in a one bedroom, at the DVC resorts, for a stay in late july, which resorts would have dates open?

 

[boatboatboat]

You've got to be kidding

no , not at all.

two people on the board today, who own SSR talked about booking stays at BWV.

Some places are simply more desirable.

 

[sajetto]

Some places are simply more desirable.

Well, obviously you didn't read that it is certainly not desirable to me. I can tell you that most people that live hear on this side of NC would have the same feeling.

 

[Jen D]

You've got to be kidding

no , not at all.

two people on the board today, who own SSR talked about booking stays at BWV.

Some places are simply more desirable.

Well, lucky for you, you have a four month booking advantage. Enjoy.

 

[tomandrobin]

If I were to call member services and ask about 4 days in a one bedroom, at the DVC resorts, for a stay in late july, which resorts would have dates open?

Go ahead and call and let us know. Must be all those Vero Beach people who got shut out by the BCV/BWV people wanting to got to the beach!...LOL

Availabilty of units does not prove who is using them! Think! Of course SSR will have availabilty, its not sold out! LOL Hence all the DVC sales Kiosk throughout Disney World!

You need to think things thru before you post.

 

[boatboatboat]

I am on hold with ms, asking about a one bedroom july 24,25,26,27 at all the resorts.

I will post what is open.

SSR=yes many units

BWV=yes (two units)

BCV=no

OKW=yes a "few" units
HH=no

Vero=NO

Wilderness=YES many units

So as i said earlier, HH and Vero are taking the hardest hits.

 

[sajetto]

I just wanted to post and make sure that all you sweet BWV and BCV owners are not offended by my post. I do not mean to say that your resorts aren't nice but they just don't appeal to me b/c I see the theme so much. Just like a person that lives at Key West probably wouldn't want to stay at OKW. Truly don't mean to offend

 

[Muushka]

#3 Muushka I don't think anyone is putting down a resort or an owner. I think people are putting down Disney and how they are marketing the newer resorts.

I did not mean you specifically boatboatboat, but yes, people do put down resorts, not the marketing department.

To me "on site" is a ten min walk.

Hmmm, I guess VWL is off site . I could have sworn that I had to drive through the MK entrance to get in there???
Interesting.... Is this what an attack on DVC marketing sounds like???

two people on the board today, who own SSR talked about booking stays at BWV.

I am staying at BWV next month, and we own at VWL. Should I cancel my reservation?

Sorry, I could not help it. I need a break from these boards!!

 

[tomandrobin]

You've got to be kidding

no , not at all.

two people on the board today, who own SSR talked about booking stays at BWV.

Some places are simply more desirable.

WOW! Two members actually wanted to go someplace other then thier home resort. I have an idea for you, start a new thred. Have BCV/BWV owners post wether they have ever stayed at another DVC resort or not . And have them say why, wether its was by choice or poor planning or Christmas week, etc. Research, research, research.

 

[cobbler]

BBB -
I totally get where you are coming from.
1 - SSR is large, no question about that at all

2 - The more members there are, the harder it will be to book at small resorts - again no question. BUT this isn't exclusive to SSR, it is to ANY resort being built from here on out. If AKl, or CRV or Poly Villas are built and have a small number of rooms it will be hard to book at those places as well, no matter what because again, the member numbers will increase, those at the exisiting properties are going to want to stay there.

3 - There are people that buy into SSR to get into other places. Again no question but there are also A LOT that don't!! There are OKW people that buy in because you can get resale at OKW for a good price and I am sure there are a few OKW owners that are trying to get into the other resorts. This is what I don't understand, why complain about SSR when other owners at other resorts are doing the same. VB and HH too. I have seen posts because of the low cost to own there and get onsite, why aren't we complaining about them??

I think its a small percentage that buy in and want to stay elsewhere. I guess we should poll but again that number would be skewed too because only DIS'ers are involved. Although I think some might actually be surprised at the results. I think the posts that those that buy into SSR who want to stay elsewhere stand out to the non SSR owners because of debates like this. I bet there are far more that buy in and want to stay but some turn a blind eye to that because it doesn't really matter to them.

I don't know how many people are like me but I did buy SSR because of the longer contract. I would have bought whatever was avail with the longest contract and the newest - even EP if it came to be, when I wanted to make my initial purchase. Now that is just me but I think others feel the same. I also have no qualms about staying at SSR all the time. Do I want to try the others?? You bet'cha but after that I can do all SSR all the time and be fine. I know owners of other resorts that want to try the rest too.

I guess I just don't get why all the negativity about SSR, SSR owners or whatever. The things that happen, happen at all of them.