Why isn't Disney offering Developer pts for BLT?

[anonymousegirl]

Is it because BLT is new and Disney doesn't need to sweeten the pot yet? I was under the impression that developer points took the place of your usual points for immediate use since your usual points could not yet be used at the new resort.

Without developer points, if I bought 160 pts at BLT I could not use them at any resort until BLT opens in September, correct? So why would I buy now if I could not use my points?

 

[Dean]

Is it because BLT is new and Disney doesn't need to sweeten the pot yet? I was under the impression that developer points took the place of your usual points for immediate use since your usual points could not yet be used at the new resort.

Without developer points, if I bought 160 pts at BLT I could not use them at any resort until BLT opens in September, correct? So why would I buy now if I could not use my points?

Likely they feel they don't need to, at least not yet. I think you'll see them or some other promotion later above the $5 a point discount but we shall see.

 

[Tara]

Is it because BLT is new and Disney doesn't need to sweeten the pot yet? I was under the impression that developer points took the place of your usual points for immediate use since your usual points could not yet be used at the new resort.

Without developer points, if I bought 160 pts at BLT I could not use them at any resort until BLT opens in September, correct? So why would I buy now if I could not use my points?

I'm guessing that Disney is satisfied with current sales at BLT now. It's very possible that will change, but for us, developer points were not enough to seal the deal. We passed on AKV even though we would have gotten developer points.

Yes, you are correct that you couldn't use BLT points anywhere until BLT opens.

So why buy now? Well, for us, it's why not...we'll pay the same price over the life of the contract if we buy now instead of, for example, next August. We're financing, so paying starting now or starting a year from now doesn't matter - it's all the same price. Our membership will just be paid for that much earlier. We don't pay fees until BLT opens, so that's no big deal, either.

Plus by buying now (or before March) we are able to make a reservation for next fall when reservations open, which is important to us as that's when we plan to go.

 

[figment795]

It is all about location. While DH and I went for a quick trip in Oct , we purchased 160 BLT points after touring the model. We were going to add a small contract at AKV however since BLT is small we want the 11 th month window.

 

[disneynutz]

Is it because BLT is new and Disney doesn't need to sweeten the pot yet? I was under the impression that developer points took the place of your usual points for immediate use since your usual points could not yet be used at the new resort.

Disney won't offer anything if they don't have to. Sales have fallen flat and financing is getting hard to come by, so we should see a new offer soon.

Without developer points, if I bought 160 pts at BLT I could not use them at any resort until BLT opens in September, correct? So why would I buy now if I could not use my points?

People want to be the first. Disney knows this so they use it to their advantage. Just think about it. Everyone who has purchased BLT has never seen the completed resort other than some drawings and maybe a tour of the model.

I guess I am from the old school. I want to test drive the car before I buy.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

Disney won't offer anything if they don't have to. Sales have fallen flat and financing is getting hard to come by, so we should see a new offer soon.




People want to be the first. Disney knows this so they use it to their advantage. Just think about it. Everyone who has purchased BLT has never seen the completed resort other than some drawings and maybe a tour of the model.

I guess I am from the old school. I want to test drive the car before I buy.

Yep!! Another "old schooler" here! I think we are so old school, people don't even say "old school" anymore! (Class of '77). Back OT, I want to stay there first before I even form an opinion.

 

[ILuvCrush]

I'm not a DVC member... yet

I took the tours when I was down 2 weeks ago. My guide stated that they don't feel that BLT will need incentives. The location and the fact that there's less rooms than AKV will help sell it...no need to add anything else.

I also found out SSR was sold out... not sure how I missed that

Paula

 

[DebbieB]

From what I understand, the developer points come from unsold points at SSR. I don't think there is an unlimited supply that they can keep passing them out.

 

[Blahnde]

I was under the impression that developer points took the place of your usual points for immediate use since your usual points could not yet be used at the new resort.

Many people (mainly those who have not been around very long) make this assumption, but it is completely inaccurate. A few years ago developer points were available with SSR purchases (while that resort was under "current" sale) even though there was no delay in usage like there currently is with AKV - Kidani and BLT. They were also used as an incentive while AKV - Jambo was open and they sold those points, so there was no useage delay then either. While guides do sometimes suggest that you could use the developer points until your AKV - Kidani points are available for use, there is no connection.

From what I understand, the developer points come from unsold points at SSR. I don't think there is an unlimited supply that they can keep passing them out.

While they are not unlimited, there are plenty to keep giving out. They come from points that the developer (DVD) holds back from public sale; this is how they are able to keep units out of rotation for maintenance and repairs. According to November 2008 contract documents, DVD currently owns 22.22% of the 13,124,052 SSR points so they have approximately 2,916,164 SSR points they could use as developer points.

But what you need to realize is that when DVD provides these points to a new buyer to use it is only for one year. And since the developer's points are just like ours in that they are replentished every year for the life of the contract, they could keep offering the same points year after year. So if they use 1,000,000 points of the 2,916,164 they have (just an example!) as incentives to new buyers, they would be able to give 1,000,000 to new buyers in 2008, another 1,000,000 to new buyers in 2009, another 1,000,000 to new buyers in 2010, etc. until the 1,000,000 point SSR contract expires in 2054.

It seems to me developer points will be around as a sales incentive for a long, long time!

Blahnde

 

[dcfromva]

From what I understand, the developer points come from unsold points at SSR. I don't think there is an unlimited supply that they can keep passing them out.

Debbie,
There are all sorts of incentives they can think up --they don't have to be developer points. They had free tickets to the themeparks in the good 'ole days. When we first purchased, they gave us 10 days at the Disney resort of our choice. (We picked a week at the Polynesian and 3 nights at the BC!) Then, there are the 2 free APes, gift cards, et'c.

I keep thinking they will offer something more if BLT sales aren't what they need them to be. To my way of thinking, there is little motivation for someone to buy the points right away, but we'll see. We didn't buy as many as we might have done had there been better incentives. (We figure we can always do an add on ).

 

[Disney Spaz]

Well I am definatley one who is waiting for better incentives. DH wants BLT but I can't justify spending the money right now without some sort of incentive and $5 off per point at $112 a point in not an incentive to me.

 

[hsteacher]

Really wanted BLT but Disney having my $$ for almost a year without me being able to use it at all just wasn't enough incentive for me. Ended up making an offer on BWV which is our 2nd fav. place to stay. Waiting for ROFR but I'm hopeful that with the economy and flat sales, Disney will waive ROFR.

 

[WendyinNC]

I'm thinking about adding on some points in the future. But, I don't see any reason to add on now since the earliest I would be using BLT points would be Spring or Summer of 2010. I also want to add on fewer than 100 points and there is no incentive for that. I'm just watching, waiting, and earing a few $ of interest on my money rather than handing it over to Disney.

 

[schoenfelders5]

How important is having the 11 month window on your home resort if you don't go at Christmas or Easter? For instance if you buy SSR but want to stay at BWV in March, if you book in the 7 month window are you likely to get your reservation for a 2 bedroom? Do those go the quickest?

 

[figment795]

How important is having the 11 month window on your home resort if you don't go at Christmas or Easter? For instance if you buy SSR but want to stay at BWV in March, if you book in the 7 month window are you likely to get your reservation for a 2 bedroom? Do those go the quickest?

Larger resorts like SSR,OKW and AKV it is easy to get christmas and Easter at the 7th month mark due to size. However BWV is a smaller resort and will have a limited amout of reservations at the 7 month mark. It is not impossible.

 

[disneynutz]

How important is having the 11 month window on your home resort if you don't go at Christmas or Easter? For instance if you buy SSR but want to stay at BWV in March, if you book in the 7 month window are you likely to get your reservation for a 2 bedroom? Do those go the quickest?

A smart DVCer will buy where they love to stay. 12 years ago there was only 1 DVC resort and a handful of members. Now there are 11 resorts and a membership of 350,000 with more signing on each day.

How many members have never stayed at their home resort? More than you would think.

So where do they stay? At your favorite resort which never seems to have availability.

So where will you stay? At your 2nd or 3rd choice because that's all you could get.

I didn't buy a DVC membership to stay at my 2nd or 3rd choice.

What used to be easy to book will continue to become more difficult.

 

[VacationKicks]

Larger resorts like SSR,OKW and AKV it is easy to get christmas and Easter at the 7th month mark due to size. However BWV is a smaller resort and will have a limited amount of reservations at the 7 month mark. It is not impossible.

It may not be impossible but, it is not always possible. I tried to make a res. for a 2bdr at exactly 7mo. I couldn't get one night of the week I was going for at SSR. I was using developer points so I had to wait until the 7mo. booking window. So I would buy where you want to stay.

 

[5forDiz]

It may not be impossible but, it is not always possible. I tried to make a res. for a 2bdr at exactly 7mo. I couldn't get one night of the week I was going for at SSR. I was using developer points so I had to wait until the 7mo. booking window. So I would buy where you want to stay.

I agree with this post and especially if travel plans will be during holiday times and school breaks/vacation times, Food & Wine (for BCV & BWV) and the list can go on.

I wouldn't bank on any DVC resort at 7 month window & a prospective member shouldn't figure something will be available just because a resort is larger as is case with SSR or OKW - your experience booking at SSR at 7 month window is an excellent point and at OKW it's not always easy to book either.

 

[laura-k]

Hi -
I am new to this group and just posted this as part of my 1st post-

I wanted to also let you Know I gave my guide "Jenna" the green light about dinner time last night and there were not any extra incentives but the 5 dollers off per point -(saved 800.00)-No brick -no extra nights ect ....
But she just called me and said at the meeting today they found out they
would be haveing "Bonus " points and that it would be added to my contract-
They will be good at saratoga ,Disneyland or world passport collection and to be spent by October 9th 2009-Would this be the same thing I read about on here called developer points ?

Hope that helps

 

[disneynutz]

Hi -
I am new to this group and just posted this as part of my 1st post-

I wanted to also let you Know I gave my guide "Jenna" the green light about dinner time last night and there were not any extra incentives but the 5 dollers off per point -(saved 800.00)-No brick -no extra nights ect ....
But she just called me and said at the meeting today they found out they
would be haveing "Bonus " points and that it would be added to my contract-
They will be good at saratoga ,Disneyland or world passport collection and to be spent by October 9th 2009-Would this be the same thing I read about on here called developer points ?

Hope that helps

Yep... same thing. It's a inexpensive way for DVD to sweeten the pot to promote sales. It costs them virtually nothing and the buyer gets an extra vacation.