Yup.I don't really care that it is now 2 credits vs 1. The food just isn't as good as it was 10 years ago. This applies to many restaurants, but especially this one (IMHO).
) but sometimes you just want to have a semi-romantic birthday meal. Also, so close that when the overly tired five year old seated next to you (at the latest possible dinner) knocks over his glass of water... it ends up in YOUR lap. 
 Add to that the fact that the food was sort of hit or miss (I had some of THE best asparagus of my life there. Seriously, when I got home, I was dreaming of vegetables instead of Dole Whip. But my filet was just so-so; and they had replaced the truffle risotto with english pea risotto, which is pretty unforgivable, let's be honest here.) and it just made the whole experience not worth it, IMHO. We definitely felt like we had not gotten our money's worth as far as DDP credits went, and now that we know that DDP isn't really a good value for us anyway, we're still not inclined to pay the prices asked for a meal that's just sort of "meh."Totally agree, therefore I make the latest possible ADR, crowds and noise greatly reduced and the servers are more attentive. I've always enjoyed the food at LC and continue to do so, just as I enjoy Yachtsman which can be just as noisy if not as tightly crowded. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, and rather than base a decision on going or not on the experiences of others, just try it, it's one meal, not a lifetime commitment. As far as the Outback reference, I wish it were, I would be there often! Poutine, beer cheese soup, NY strip, awesome! I think it's the BOGO mentality, because it was such a great deal in the past, people now categorically refuse to buy into it no matter how much they enjoyed it! Ie. I refuse to buy Belvita blueberry biscuits unless they're BOGO, no matter how much I love them!but being in the park it brings a loud atmosphere with tight seating, mostly park attire and loud/cranky kids at times. When you're opposed to the atmosphere and layout,
I've seen people claim to have better steak and service at Outback, which is just absurd or they had a really off night.
Poutine, poutine, poutine, there you are, now your not alone. We really enjoy it too!I loved eating at le Cellier. I know I've said poutine too many times


. I also don't like the fact that the restaurant's unique Canadian wines, such as Mission Hill, is now being pushed out for the Disney Family of Wines. I think that's just as ridiculous as Frozen taking over Norway.But much, much better than fifteen-twenty years ago. Doesn't anyone else remember it as a cafeteria?I don't really care that it is now 2 credits vs 1. The food just isn't as good as it was 10 years ago. This applies to many restaurants, but especially this one (IMHO).

My reason for disliking LC is indeed the change from 1TS to 2TS. Not that I ever did the dining plan anyway but all they did was raise the price to be the same as the really good "signature" restaurants without improving the quality to match. Instead you get a Outback-like steak dinner at twice the price. You're also crammed into a very dark restaurant where you are nearly on top of the party at the next table.Something I've learned on here (I'm guilty too) over the past couple years lurking, is that DISers do not like change for the most part. When there is change, there is a lot of griping and doom/gloom postings.
I'm wondering why Le Cellier is so hated on here but loved on review sites like Trip Advisor? Is it because it changed from a 1 TS credit to 2 TS credits? Or is it because some of the menu has changed? Or is it just plain bad and not worth 2 TS credits?
What is your reason for disliking Le Cellier so much. I'm so torn on it because I read good things on review sites but DISBoards keeps turning me off to it.
I haven't really been able to pin point exactly why this place is so unpopular, but it seems to be a common general theme on here.