Why is fish not considered meat?

[Blondie]

Originally posted by monkeyboy
Fish swim
Meat walks

Can cows swim? I know moose can and people eat moose meat.

 

[preshi]

I was having this argument with my Mom at Easter. IMO any living thing you have to kill and eat, the flesh is meat, she disagrees but couldn't tell me why. Snails, Fish, Lobster, Cow, Duck whatever... it's all meat.

 

[Bob Slydell]

Originally posted by preshi
I was having this argument with my Mom at Easter. IMO any living thing you have to kill and eat, the flesh is meat, she disagrees but couldn't tell me why. Snails, Fish, Lobster, Cow, Duck whatever... it's all meat.

Technically, you're not eating the flesh of shellfish -- you're eating their innards.

 

[SandraM]

I stopped eating all meat, including fish, at about 7 years of age, once I understood that what was on my plate did not just "come from", but actually "was"! I just couldn't stand the idea of eating dead animals. It wasn't until I was well into my teens that I realised that there was a label for my eating preferences - "vegetarian". My mother and her friends used to say "Isn't she so strange?!!!", they'd never come across anyone who didn't eat meat before!

When I say in a restaurant that I'm vegetarian I regularly get asked if I eat fish. So far as I'm concerned, someone who eats fish is NOT a vegetarian, they're ruining it for the real vegetarians.

Once I was at a hot food counter and asked if there was anything vegetarian. The lady behind the counter, who looked like she'd rather be asleep in her bed anyhow, waved her hand in one direction and said "just the chicken". I said "didn't anyone ever tell you that a chicken is a dead bird?" She woke up a little then!

 

[The Mystery Machine]

True but why then is it called "Crabmeat"???

 

[monkeyboy]

Originally posted by The Mystery Machine
True but why then is it called "Crabmeat"???

Good Point

 

[The Mystery Machine]

Oh and "Shark Steaks"?

 

[preshi]

Originally posted by Bob Slydell
Technically, you're not eating the flesh of shellfish -- you're eating their innards.

So if you eat Armadillo do you consider it meat or no because they have an hard shell just like a lobster or a crab would.

I think that anything under the protective layer of skin is flesh.

 

[Bob Slydell]

Originally posted by preshi
So if you eat Armadillo do you consider it meat or no because they have an hard shell just like a lobster or a crab would.

I think that anything under the protective layer of skin is flesh.

I'll let you know next time I have armadillo.

 

[preshi]

Thanks Bob

 

[monkeyboy]

Originally posted by Bob Slydell
I'll let you know next time I have armadillo.

Armadillo 'N Rice
Ingredients:
1 armadillo, dressed and cleaned
4 large onions
1 stalk celery
2 cans chopped mushrooms
2 cups rice, uncooked
Salt and pepper to taste
10 cups armadillo broth

Preparation:
Boil armadillo until tender; reserve broth.
Remove meat from bones.
Cut onions and celery and cook in butter until tender.
Add mushrooms and meat and simmer for 5 minutes.
Put in a large baking pan or dutch oven and add 10 cups of hot broth; add rice, salt and pepper; stir.
Place in 375 degrees F. oven and cook until tender.
Serves 12.

 

[preshi]

1 armadillo, dressed and cleaned


Thats nice that you dress and clean up the armadillo before dinner... but how do you decide whether to dress it in a skirt or a suit?

 

[meandtheguys]

NOw, can you substitute any type of "roadkill" for that, or does it have to be armadillo. We get a lot more opossums around here.

 

[monkeyboy]

Well it taste just like chicken (or chicken of the sea)

 

[Laura]

Originally posted by SandraM
When I say in a restaurant that I'm vegetarian I regularly get asked if I eat fish. So far as I'm concerned, someone who eats fish is NOT a vegetarian, they're ruining it for the real vegetarians.

Originally posted by SandraM
Once I was at a hot food counter and asked if there was anything vegetarian. The lady behind the counter, who looked like she'd rather be asleep in her bed anyhow, waved her hand in one direction and said "just the chicken". I said "didn't anyone ever tell you that a chicken is a dead bird?" She woke up a little then!

 

[BedKnobbery2]

I consider fish meat, calling it fish is just a sub-category, like calling chicken, poultry or deer, game.

I have no beef (if you'll forgive the pun) with vegetarians who choose to be so for health/preference reasons. I do, however, have a problem with those who claim it is for ethical reasons, and preach incessantly about it, yet still wear leather or drink milk or eat cheese--since they are all part of the beef industry as well. It's kinda like saying you don't support the death penalty, except for deaths by hanging.

I have one very good friend who is strictly vegan because of his ethical beliefs, which I completely respect.

Me, I'm an omnivore. I was a vegetarian for several years, though.

 

[Laura]

Originally posted by BedKnobbery2
I have no beef (if you'll forgive the pun) with vegetarians who choose to be so for health/preference reasons. I do, however, have a problem with those who claim it is for ethical reasons, and preach incessantly about it, yet still wear leather or drink milk or eat cheese--since they are all part of the beef industry as well. It's kinda like saying you don't support the death penalty, except for deaths by hanging.

You don't have to kill the cow to get the milk. But I'm with you about the leather issue. But then, pleather can fool people sometimes. I have pleather stuff that you have to touch and smell to tell that it's not leather. People probably think I buy leather because of my pleather stuff, but I don't care what they think.

One thing that bugs me about meat-eaters happens when I'm asked about being vegetarian. Some of them go on these looooong tirades about how we're at the top of the food chain, we have dominion over the animals, blah blah blah to justify their meat-eating. Seriously, they do! They really don't need to go into it, and I don't really care. The ones who just tell me they eat meat 'cuz they like it are okay in my book.

 

[Bob Slydell]

Originally posted by SandraM

When I say in a restaurant that I'm vegetarian I regularly get asked if I eat fish. So far as I'm concerned, someone who eats fish is NOT a vegetarian, they're ruining it for the real vegetarians.

I guess I've always thought those who eat fish as "vegetarians" and those who don't eat any sort of animal as a "vegan", but I don't see how someone eating fish and calling themselves a vegetarian "ruins" it for anyone? Why would you care what someone calls themselves?

 

[BedKnobbery2]

Originally posted by Laura
You don't have to kill the cow to get the milk. But I'm with you about the leather issue.

No, you don't kill the cow to get the milk, but that same cow who produces the milk will either A. give birth to a calf who will be raised for beef B. be killed for beef herself when she outlives her usefulness as a milk cow or C. lives on a farm which also raises beef cows. The industries are interdependent upon one another, so to purchase dairy products is to support the beef industry, which means supporting the raising and killing of cattle.

 

[monkeyboy]

Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free